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    sharonp30 likes this.

    Hello ShaynaSmart -- I'm really glad you shared this experience with allnurses. It really caught my attention because I just completed a certification program called 'Mental Health First Aid'...and one of the experiences that we discussed was the incidence of panic attacks in people, which often occur for the first time in a person's life from around age 18 until they are in their late 20's. The symptoms you describe are very common. First of all, don't be hard on yourself about this. From what you describe, it doesn't sound like it occurred because you were dreading your job or had anxiety about going to work. Secondly, I'm not trying to imply that you have a problem or a disorder - I am not a medical professional and this forum is not the place to be offering medical advice. What I'd like to offer is that you may want to share this with someone you can talk to who can help you understand what happened, perhaps a counselor or a family physician. A little support from someone who understands is very empowering thing and can give you the tools you need to prevent a no call/no show from happening again, which mom2banurse has already stated can keep you from being successful in the career you've chosen.

    Your partner cares about you but may not know how to really help you with this, so the best thing to do is to discuss it with someone who does. Best wishes!!

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    Sometimes CNAs don't realize how difficult a nurse's job really is. The pressure on nurses today is incredible with the unreasonable amount of responsibility that they usually have to shoulder. I'm sure this nurse just lost it with me because of how it was going to reflect on her. Nevertheless, you just should never yell at or reprimand an employee in front of their co-workers, discussions like that should be done in private and hopefully without raising voices. Any time there is an incident or a new development or something going on with a resident in LTC, whenever you report it to a nurse they just get that look, like....oh my god, damn!! Now I have an extra hour of paperwork and documentation and crap to fill out because of this....thanks a lot!!

    Since this was the second fall that I got written up for in which I wasn't the only person responsible for it happening, I decided that there just wasn't going to be a third. I've never worked so hard in my life, sweated so much, cared so deeply, or suffered such humiliation for such paltry pay that I was getting. At the end of the day, I didn't have anything left to give to my busy family. That's what did it for me. The home care job was fine, but I wasn't making enough money at that either. Some weeks I only worked 12 hours!! Plus they never gave me enough hours to qualify for health care. Fortunately I got a job at the University where i live, and I've been there over a year now. I'm grateful for the time I spent as a CNA, but I'm also grateful that I'm not doing that anymore......

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    I've never seen a CNA that I worked with ever kiss a resident that we were caring for -- except for one. There was this cutest little gentleman, a dementia-ridden fellow who tended to give the staff a lot of heck all the time with his defiant combative behavior. One night it took two of us to get him all settled into bed, at which time he fell asleep instantly. I remarked, 'Ahhhh......they look so cute when they're sleeping!' which time my partner gave him a little peck on the head as she tucked him in. I'll never forget that.

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    Quote from TurtleCat
    Hey... I know I made this thread a few days ago but I really wanted to thank you guys for your helpful and understanding replies. It means a lot to me and made me feel a lot better.

    I think I still want to try and go into the nursing field. I'm supposed to start CNA school in about 2 months -- I figure the clinicals will give me a taste of what the actual job is like and help me to decide if it's something I can handle and want to pursue further, or not. I hope it does work out for me because I really do want to help sick and elderly people and people who can't take care of themselves. I think that's one of the best things to do with your life, help care for those who can't care for themselves, hence my interest in nursing. When I took care of my sick and dying family member, it really was a wonderful and fulfilling thing -- it broke my heart to see them so sick, but it made me feel better to be able to do something for them.

    I've done some reading and I read that a lot of times when dementia/Alzheimer's patients try to grope you or make advances, it's not that they're trying to hurt you but rather cause of their confused mindstate, like they may think the caregiver/CNA is an old wife or girlfriend or something. Knowing that makes it a little easier to deal with and also knowing that I can have another CNA come in with me if I'm uncomfortable -- my biggest fear was that I'd be forced to handle a sexually aggressive resident all by myself.

    I've also read that Alzheimer's/dementia residents can be aggressive in other ways as well, such as physical -- hitting, biting, etc. How is that usually dealt with, to prevent too much injury or harm to the caregiver/CNA? I imagine this must be hard to deal with as well but I try to imagine it from their perspective -- in their state of mind, they're so confused they don't even know who they are or where they are, and if I didn't know anything and some stranger came into my room undressing me, touching me against my will, etc. I'd be trying to hit and kick them too! It's really sad though to imagine one's mind deteriorating in such a way -- I imagine it must take a great deal of patience, compassion and understanding to work with this population.
    I worked in a special Alzheimer's unit at the LTC facility that I was employed by. Two of the residents there were men and only one of those two was ever inappropriate with any of the female CNA's, mostly they were totally harmless and not at all aggressive. Actually, the dementia residents were always my favorite people to take care of, even the ones who often resisted care or were combative. You seem like such a compassionate person with a real heart for the elderly. Do you know how wonderful that is??!! A lot of CNA's and nurses seem to want to avoid LTC like the plague. I encourage you to enter the nursing really needs people like YOU!

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    Take the class. We had 2 guys in our CNA class and I preferred to work with them because they were just nice without any of the 'female politics' and competitiveness that I sometimes felt from my classmates who were women. Sometimes they were also better at practicing the skills than the women were, I'm not really sure why that was the case.

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    CNA1991 and zara ray like this.

    That's something you will find in most health care facilities. They have an almost hostile attitude toward students, because they know the student is going to put schooling first and their slave-wage job will most likely take a back seat. Wishing you luck to find something more compatible with your school schedule!

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    I especially loved this: "When I push you away when you are trying to help me--a wash perhaps, or getting dressed, maybe it's because I have forgotten what you have said. Keep telling me what you are doing--over and over and over--Maybe others will think YOU are the one that needs help!" That's what I found most helpful when dealing with combative dementia patients, to just talk talk talk, very gently and say exactly what you are doing and why...and to keep repeating it as you provide the care, over and over. The softness of your voice is sometimes all you need to calm and comfort them enough to stop them pushing you away. What beautiful words, thanks for sharing!!

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    zara ray and CNA1991 like this.

    ^^^That comment there by student forever is great!! It's wonderful to get such a personal reward out of knowing you are helping people in such a personal way -- however, CNA's are only able to give help that's very temporary in nature and that is what is depressing. They know all too well that they're mostly powerless to make a real difference and effect the quality of life of the people they serve in any kind of lasting way. You, zara ray, may use the experience and knowledge you are gaining right now in a position you could find yourself in the future in which you can advocate for change and really be able to do something about what you learned at the ground level. Maybe getting this job was just what you needed and you'll be glad you went through it. Best wishes to you!!!

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    WSteven1, jadelpn, Psychtrish39, and 1 other like this.

    Quote from brillohead
    Makes me wonder if we should merge this thread with the one about walking in on a patient choking his chicken....
    You mean slapping the monkey?

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    I'm not much of a Morality Nazi, so if it had been me on the other side of that locked door, I would have knocked loudly and addressed the hospitalist to tell him he was needed and that I would come back shortly...then I would have walked away to give him a chance to finish whatever he was doing that I didn't even want to know about. Unless there was a crime being committed, I would have allowed him the privacy to at least put his drawers back on. Personally, I would be completely MORTIFIED to walk in on some hospital hanky-panky, especially if it involved a scandalous affair.

    Incidentally, some people like to try and get it on in a semi-public place where there's the danger of being discovered. Yeah, some people like that. Yeah. 'Course I'd never do that.....certainly not. *ahem*

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    netglow likes this.

    Quote from Hygiene Queen
    What I don't get is that it was the sleeping room...
    The door was locked...
    Noises were heard...
    And they bust in?
    Would you do that in a toilet?
    You have the same thing.
    The door is locked and noises are heard.
    You're going to break down the stall door on somebody?
    What if they're masturbating in there?
    Now you can get them in trouble for masturbating at work?
    I have a great distaste for adultery but I'm no judge either.
    Some are so quick to want to fire people.
    I think the story is hokey, anyway.
    Not saying the OP made it up, but maybe the story got twisted a bit before it got to the OP's ears.
    The door thing doesn't make sense.
    Yeah, I thought of that, too. Sheesh the noises could have been him taking care of some very private business.

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    Dear Lady will you PUUH-LEEEASE just swallow that mouthful of food you've been chewing for the last 5 full minutes so when I assist you with another spoonful it won't just slip-slide out your mouth and onto your lap again.

    To the people I work with I'd LOOOOVE to say:

    NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO!! No, fellow CNA co-worker, I don't want to give up my day off to take your stinkin' shift!!!

    NO!! Ms. New Administrator Lady -- I don't think you should get rid of the Special Care Unit for the dementia residents and turn it into a Medicare/Medicaid facility for the poorest residents because you're tired of the high cost of adequate staffing for an Alzheimer's Unit!!! That idea is just asinine!!!!!

    NO!! I DO NOT want to sign that report admitting what a totally incompetent useless piece-a-crap I am for calling out of a shift because I have bronchitis and I'm coughing all over the freakin' place. Just shove that report where the sun don't shine!!!!

    Oh, and one more thing: WILL YOU PLEASE JUST FIRE ME!!! PLEASE!!! I'M BEGGING YOU!!! I WANT OUT OF HERE!!!!!!

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    KimberlyRN89, Cristae, and Merlyn like this.

    Aaaagghhh...anybody who grumbles so much about you sucking probably forgot how much they sucked when they first started out, as we all did at one time. Don't let it get to you!!

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    Sisyphus and whichone'spink like this.

    Quote from ShelbyRN1: "To all those who have attacked her based on an honest inquiry you must surely be the one's who are the nasty, mean nurses she is speaking of." And... "If you are offended by this, you are part of the problem."

    Excellent. Just what I was thinking -- I'm glad somebody said it.

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    Morainey, mom35, Zookeeper3, and 3 others like this.

    Quote from psytbs87
    i'm not even going to sugar coat surg is the most depressing place to work. ever. this has nothing to do with the patients, more with the staff and EVERYONE always being snippy and having an attitude. I completely understand we have a lot on our plates, but most of my other coworkers pass all their work off to the poor techs, who bust their ass more than a lot of the nurses I work with. The atmosphere on a med surg unit isn't a very comforting one too. Remember always hearing how nurses like to eat their young? well, this is what they were talking about.
    They don't care if you succeed or not, and even when I brought this up to the supervisor she dismissed my claims as just being nervous to get to know everyone. Little did my staff know, I come from a very strong psych background of about 10 years with at an inpatient penitentiary as well performing all the initial assessment for patients being admitted into the psych ward. So, you kind of just have to keep acting polite and cordial, make sure the supervisor is aware of how hard you're working.
    And as for the meds not being passed on time, either deal with it or become that patient's advocate and make your voice known that you actually care about the people in the hospital, and are making them your first priority rather than denying them their scheduled medications that the Doctor ordered to be given at certain times. I would first make anonymous complaints to another supervisor in human resources or call over to patient rights and responsibilities. At least make it known that people aren't charting accurate information, and you don't want to put anyone in danger by disobeying the rules because the nurses are too busy lounging around ******** how hard their career is.....when ironically, most of them do them do bare minimum to get by each day.
    Did I hear right? '...the poor techs...' Really? Someone actually acknowledging that the patient care techs/CNA's sometimes get dumped on with tasks that the nurses just don't want to do? I may faint. **swoons**