Any non physician anesthetists, whether individually or corporately, one day realize they don't need to have their hand held by a doctor to do anesthesia. CRNA's knew that very early on and AA's are beginning to realize this now. One day there will be such a thing as a "militant AA" as far as anesthesiologists are concerned, if that entity doesn't already exist.
The difference is that AA's practice at the pleasure of their state's board of medicine and can be dealt a lethal blow over a weekend. CRNA's are credentialed completely independently of any physician organization and as such are free to pursue or not pursue varying degrees of "independence" as they see fit.
Take away? AA's need to play nice, regardless of the skill and experience they bring to the table. CRNA's don't.
The problem with AAs being militant and wanting to break free is that they can not do this without going back to school and switching professions. They literally cannot practice independent of a anesthesiologist.
Also don't forget to consider state and/or city taxes (ex: NYC--you get hit with both state and city). Pay in Florida is lower, however, there is no state tax. This is a great tool to estimate what your pay will be after taxes, depending on your location: https://smartasset.com/taxes/income-taxes
This true but you also have to consider if you buy a house too. Many factors to consider. When I lived in Texas there was no income tax but property tax was ridiculous. It's all relative. The government is going to get their money one way or another. The best predictor I've see is between rural and urban hospitals. Least "desireable" the location the higher the pay. Not always but mostly from what I have seen.
Hello allnurses! I have been a long time onlooker and now a first time poster. I have been putting one foot in front of the other on my path to CRNA school.
A little about me:
7 years EMS - 5 of which Paramedic
2.5 years RN - last two in the ER of a cardiovascular hospital
BSN - 3.50 gpa, cum laude
ACLS & BLS instructor - actively teaching
I have the opportunity to transfer to the CCU of this specialty hospital. They do all types of thoracic surgeries excluding transplants, LVADS and such. It is a smaller facility however it is very well respected. Nurses are relatively autonomous in the unit from what I have been told. Do you successful SRNAs/CRNAs think this would be great experience or should I look at a more general ICU?
Also, if I applied with a year of experience, would I be competitive? I do plan to obtain my CCRN when I am qualified.
Thank you for any insight!
I came from CCU. Interviewed with 1 year there and started school after 18 months in CCU. You should be good.
I could not get into American school because I came to USA one year ago when I was already a medical doctor.Why you could not get into that even if you are American citizen?lol
Some of us never were interested in medical school. Regardless I wouldn't pass insults back and forth. One person insulted you and you decided to make fun of the intelligence level of nurses as a whole. Since you are so smart I guess you don't need anymore answers from us lowly nurses.
I am a first year student, currently enrolled in a CRNA program. It was brought to my attention by my adviser that there is a lack of critical event scenarios that take place throughout the program. I have talked to several practicing CRNAs and have obtained a few ideas on which to base the scenarios, such as equipment malfunction or an allergic reaction. I am posting this message in an effort to gain further ideas on where to focus my efforts. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time!
JBE SRNA
MH may be a good scenario to work through. Many of us have done tons of code drills and real codes.
For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.
With the political nature of this comment you will catch heat from most every CRNA you will meet unless they just don't care about their livelihood. In the CRNA world you will see us compare ourselves to them all the time. Another thing to remember when discussing CRNA school.
Correct. There's nothing wrong with the term nurse but I would never leave out the credentials of a CRNA.
I would also also add that having a great GPA and experience is only part of the puzzle. If you don't interview well then they could care less about who you are or were. You could also get through most of your CRNA program and be removed. Some programs will remove poor performers and people with poor attitudes. Many people have been released after making it most of the way through.
For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.
Make sure not to say things like this if you do get an interview and find yourself in a position to get into school. You may also need to humble your physician roots while working as a nurse. It may be a bitter pill to swallow if a physician tells you how to proceed while treating a patient and you do not agree.
This is so true. I have encountered some BSN prepared nurses who have NO CLUE what they're doing and they graduated from the prestigious schools. I'm not exaggerating. Trust and believe.
I have meet diploma nurses and LPNs I wouldn't trust with a corpse. I have also met some of the smartest nurses who are diploma nurses, ADNs, LPNs and BSNs. Not everyone with a degree is the greatest nurse that ever lived. Also, the hospitals are pushing for higher degrees on their nurses. It's not the universities mandating this but I understand at the end of the day it's about money. I will also point out that many hospitals will pay their nurses tuition to get their BSN.
Question I was asked by each panel. What are your typical patients?
I have heard that there are high acuity PACUs out there but they cannot compare to a high acuity ICU. PACU is generally getting stable patients and the ones that need more attention will generally go straight to ICU. Pacu may hold until a room opens. You may be happy that a couple of programs will take you but why limit your pool of schools?
You can easily find a ranking list on the Internet. These rankings can be viewed in different ways due to their criteria. I can tell you that most people I've spoke with would agree with these schools being higher teir schools. Last time I looked there were not any Florida schools near the top. I've heard that Florida schools treat you as a work horse and could care less if you actually learn something. This is just my opinion and discussions I've had with people.
I believe he stated that 72k was after taxes on his RN job.
Correct. There's nothing wrong with the term nurse but I would never leave out the credentials of a CRNA.
I would also also add that having a great GPA and experience is only part of the puzzle. If you don't interview well then they could care less about who you are or were. You could also get through most of your CRNA program and be removed. Some programs will remove poor performers and people with poor attitudes. Many people have been released after making it most of the way through.
For what reason? To stand out?
Shadow a CRNA with free time. Find out what you are getting into.
I may have raised it to 2.75 by graduation. Didn't matter.
There's are now studies pointing to the fact that many CRNAs will retire in the next 10 plus years.
Question I was asked by each panel. What are your typical patients?
I have heard that there are high acuity PACUs out there but they cannot compare to a high acuity ICU. PACU is generally getting stable patients and the ones that need more attention will generally go straight to ICU. Pacu may hold until a room opens. You may be happy that a couple of programs will take you but why limit your pool of schools?
You can easily find a ranking list on the Internet. These rankings can be viewed in different ways due to their criteria. I can tell you that most people I've spoke with would agree with these schools being higher teir schools. Last time I looked there were not any Florida schools near the top. I've heard that Florida schools treat you as a work horse and could care less if you actually learn something. This is just my opinion and discussions I've had with people.