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    bijoutRN likes this.

    PVT worked for me and a handful of others that I know ! I just found out that I passed a couple of hours ago and I'm still on cloud 9! This trick kept me sane!

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    The vast amount is a bit overwhelming But if you are able to start buying things early and family/friends are willing to jump in and help then I think you are a pretty lucky student!

    First and foremost- Get a rolling backpack. I thought this was totally dorky when my husband first suggested it but believe me you will save your back! The amount of things you need to bring with you to class is crazy heavy - you will be glad you did. Seems like just a few of us had them when we started the program and by the end of the first quarter/beginning of the second quarter over half the class was wheeling them around! They are quite helpful!

    It would be a good idea too to buy your own BP cuff for your first quarter clinical in which you will be in a nursing home. Having your own will save you a lot of time trying to find the one and only they have have on the unit that everyone is trying to share. Also make sure you have the normal stuff (like the earlier posts said, hemostats, stethescope, penlight - and with that I would suggest getting the one you can click on and off, they aren't any more expensive, they last longer, and you can change the battery).

    The medical dictionary is really up to you, though taber's is a good one and its the one recommended by the college. The Dorland's illustrated dictionary is also very nice, but more of a desk reference because it's HUGE!

    The Carpenito-Moyet Handbook of nursing diagnosis is the required book, so you will need that but to be honest it's TERRIBLE so I would suggest somewhere down the line getting a second nursing diagnosis book. I picked one up at half price books that cost next to nothing. Do some research because I am not sure which is the best version to get.

    If you want to get a headstart on second quarter stuff you could buy a drug book (Davis is the recommended), and drug reference cards (like Mosby's or Pharm flash) You won't have to use them until your second quarter but if your family wants to help fill your backpack - these are around 40.00 each so that would be a great gift.

    Also another thing that may or may not help you in clinical are those little spiral flip books like "RNotes" or "Incredibly easy..." They are pocket reference guides that are quite handy, you can write in them and erase with alcohol pads, AND you can slip them into your scrubs pockets.

    I can't think of anything else for right now Good luck on your first quarter!

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    That would be terribly sad if you decided to not do it at all.

    If it is something that you are truly passionate about, the desire won't go away. Trust me. I wanted to go back when I was in my early 20's after graduating with a degree in another field. At the time it wasn't feasible financially for me to do so. I got very discouraged and figured it was never going to happen. In hindsight, I realize that things for me happened that way for a reason and I feel like I am benefiting from it more now. I really tried to push it from my mind and just forget about it - I even tried to establish myself in another career which I truly did enjoy. Nursing school was always there in the back of mind though....

    10 years later I'm in the program because that desire never went away and though it was tough I found a way to make it work.

    Just try to stay positive You just never know what can happen tomorrow

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    Please don't get discouraged
    Just be patient, and remember everything happens for a reason. If you have to wait one more year- think of that in the grand scheme of your life - its like a blink of the eye. I thought it was the end of the world that I had to wait until spring to start the program, but in the long run it was really the best thing for me. Also, consider the people in the nursing office are doing their best. They have a lot of students to service and there are only a couple of them to do an immense amount of work. I am not sure how things will work when the shift from quarters to semesters happens but believe me it is already being discussed.
    As far as the welcome packet - if you are in the spring quarter you should receive it around the first of December (that way you can get started on things before orientation in January).

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    "Patho doesn't teach about fixing people. It takes normal physiology and shows what goes wrong and how a problem in one area impacts other areas and how a disease progresses through the body. Basically it's abnormal physiology. You learn some signs and symptoms.

    There is no treatment or pharmacology in patho. You certainly learn about major disease categories. You learn stages of disease, but it isn't about how to treat or what interventions to take."

    True. Patho is purely process based= just like physiology. Just the process, not the intervention. Not to mention there is a distinction between medical interventions and nursing interventions.

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    Quote from kidsnstudyn
    LOL, one of the things I'm NOT looking forward to is whatever we learn about Diabetes again!!! OMG, I've heard variations of Diabetes lectures on what it is and what's wrong with the body 6 times. We have one coming up in physio, and I'm sure we'll hit it in Patho too.... so that'll be 8. Plus Nursing school. Oyi. I could teach a lecture on Diabetes now.:smackingf
    Sorry to tell you but you will hear it again... and again... and again

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    Quote from foreverLaur
    I don't like physio because i found it boring. I like to fix people. I think patho will be more interesting. I found them equal in terms of how hard they are.

    You have to know regular physiology though before you can truly understand patho. One thing I've learned in nursing school is that you must always know the 'norms'

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    For what it's worth, even though I did fine in anatomy, I found physiology and pathophysiology to be much easier. I think for most people it is the other way around though....

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    NewStart2012 likes this.

    [quote=kidsnstudyn;4443730] just because someone has a rough time with a science doesn't mean they won't be cut out to be a nurse or make it through nursing school...

    No doubt! I am lucky in the sense that science comes easy to me, but there are people out there who have to work hard and that doesn't make them less capable when it comes to being a good nurse. Also letter grades don't always reflect the true capacity of the individual's knowledge base. Many people get test anxiety or have a hard time with rote memorization. Nursing isn't about knowing every single muscle, bone, or vessel name in the body. It is about therapeutic communication, assessment, and caring for your patient. Knowing body parts is of course important, but that is only one part of the big picture. For some people those things will solidify over time because everything is comprehensive - and with that comes continual review of what you already know (or should know).

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    Quote from msteeleart
    If I were you I would just wait to see what happens. I was all discouraged when I applied to the online program at Columbus State. People said it was hard to get in and everyone gets turned away. I got in on the first try and I start in September. Don't be discouraged and please don't go spend a boatload on another school because of the rumors that you hear. You don't want to walk out of nursing school with $45k of student loans. I bet you will get in, yes the waiting is the hard part but it will be over before you know it.

    I couldn't agree with you more I was discouraged as well and heard all the same rumors. They simply aren't true. If you have a high GPA, score well on the entrance exam, and have your pre-reqs in order there is no reason you shouldn't get in. Contrary to popular belief they DO actually look at grade point average and test scores, not just the time you clicked the apply button on the nursing homepage. It isn't a perfect program - I can personally attest to that, but no school is going to be perfect. You learn to go with the flow. You WILL get a high quality nursing education. Everything is regulated in according with the regulation set forth by the Board of Nursing. They have their own standards for education which every institution must follow. Our instructors are very keen to follow those guidelines, even to the chagrin of some of the students. Trust me, I don' feel like I am missing out at all.

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    [quote=shortnorthstudent;4443054]Since I haven't started yet, I cannot answer for certain. It's getting close though.

    The SNA students and the faculty at orientation explained that clinical sites/times depend on the clinical sites. You can certainly request not to have a clinical on a certain date but if that's what they have available, then you're sort of out of luck. CSCC is competing with all of the other nursing schools in the city for those dates/times and we don't have the option of choosing. We were told that we would have to work our schedules around school rather than working school around our schedules. I'm sure that they'll accomodate if possible for students who let them know in advance and have a legitimate need. But, we will not be allowed to pick.

    That is exactly right. They get the assignments from the facility some time during the previous quarter and try to let students know in as much advance as possible. CSCC has contracts with the facilities and they are required to honor those contracts according to the Board of Nursing regulations - meaning that if they agree to send 8 students to a location on a specific day then they are expected to do just that and not deviate. You also cannot skip/miss your clinical and go to another one to make it up, there are other procedures in place for make-up work. The faculty does try to accommodate legitimate needs when it comes to clinical assignments, but it is more of "not" placing you in a certain date or location rather than you requesting what day you want and where you want to be.

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    In regards to requesting specific clinical times - you can request but they may or may not honor that request. If you choose to go full time you will have class 2 days a week, plus your clinical on a different day. I had to reduce my work schedule to 2 weekdays per week. If you switch to the online program you won't have to worry about that.

    Just reading your posts about 261 - I think it depends on the instructor because each instructor writes their own midterm exams. I talked to a girl who had lab in a regular classroom and only watched cadaver videos. I was shocked at how they were able to do practicals this way - she said it was really easy and his tests were straight from his lectures. I took the class hybrid and we never had lectures. Just told to read certain sections of the book. We also used the same book that OSU had according to my instructor who was also teaching the class at OSU the same quarter. Like everything else with CSCC - it's all over the place.

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    Quote from kidsnstudyn
    We were even told at orientation that first quarter is LTC. Just an FYI for those applying they told us you have ABSOLUTELY no choice in clinical times. You take what you end up being scheduled for. First quarter is the closest you get to picking clinical time with picking a seminar time that is attached with a clinical. Also be prepared to not have "plenty of time" for any assignment. That's what the SNA people said.
    It is true about the clinical times... The first quarter you get to choose between the 2 days and times available, but after that clinical dates and times are assigned (unfortunately) You just have to keep your fingers crossed that you get the one you want (at least that's what I do). Though you do get to still choose your seminar time. The class offerings are restricted to certain days and times so a flexible schedule is a necessity.

    As far as the time allotment for assignments, there isn't what I would call "plenty" of time, but it really is dependent on your instructors. Some assignments do have pretty sturdy deadlines, but clinical paperwork does vary from each instructor.

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    Quote from kc8wor
    I wonder how many of those people who dropped out the first quarter were taking on a full load (nursing courses + A&P courses + general education courses). The basic requirements for admittance into the RN program are not very high.

    - 2.6 GPA minimum
    - Basic Algebra and English classes
    - NURC 101 and 102
    - CHEM 113
    - PSY 100
    - Pass the HESI A2 with 75%

    These are very simple classes. Also, they do not have a competitive selective admissions process like other nursing schools have. Admission to the CSCC nursing program is on a first-come first-serve basis. In other words, average students are admitted along with brilliant students on equal footing.

    I've heard that at CSCC you start out your first quarter at a hospital. In a hospital, everything is done electronically. In a nursing home a lot of paperwork is still done the old-fashioned way (pen and paper). Also, I've heard that you're given plenty of time to complete your assessments. Is this true?

    If you're juggling a family or serious relationship, friendships, full time job, full time school, and church (if applicable), then you probably will run into some serious time constraints. Also, consider the number of students who have had no previous healthcare experience. You will be around sick and needy people who don't care whether you are a student or not. If anything, they'll probably be anxious about a student taking care of them. Also, could it be that some people simply conclude that Nursing is not for them and drop?

    belle52877, I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it is simply unfair that CSCC has such a lax admissions process. There are a lot of people returning to school with previous degrees who know what commitment to their education looks like. Also, consider all the people who have healthcare experience and good grades. Need I say any more?

    Actually, many of the people in the program are older students with previous degrees or at the least some completed college coursework. There are quite a few that are married and/or have kids and also work full time - I am sure this has some correlation with the percentage of people who fail or drop one of the classes the first quarter. The problem is that the nursing coursework is structured very different from your garden variety college class. It is hard to explain, but you will know what I mean once you start. Many of the people who fail one of the first quarter classes do come back with the next class and try to make it through. I actually know a girl who failed first quarter who has 6 years of healthcare experience and she was a bright girl - I never would have expected it.

    I have a previous degree from another college and took all of my required supporting classes (A&P, patho, micro, etc) prior to starting the program. I have no healthcare experience whatsover, and to be honest it doesn't really matter. After the first quarrter everyone is in the same boat because you start to learn things in the scope of nursing ole which is much different than the assistive personel function.

    As far as your first quarter clinical, it isn't in a hospital. Your first quarter is in a nursing home setting. You learn to do basic assessments. There is A LOT of paperwork to fill out, and I wouldn't necessarily say that you have plenty of time to complete assignments. Then again it really is dependent upon your clinical instructor. They each do things very differently.

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    Quote from kidsnstudyn
    I don't know what quarter you're in, but they started a tutoring program last quarter and brought that attrition number down to 8%! It seems like a pretty cool program, it's headed up by a lady [no names allowed on here] who's going to do her thesis on it. I'm making A's now, but I started a new job on Monday, and I'm trying to decide whether or not to try and take pathophys online with my two nursing classes 100 & 110 [traditional] next quarter... any thoughts? I didn't want a gap in the sequence of anatomy, phys, and pathophys, but I'm really worried about the amount of time that I'll need to put into these first two classes on the other hand all of nursing school will be time intensive. I will only have Pathophys, Micro, and the two Comm classes left as of next quarter. They really did try to talk us into p/t nursing school. But I just don't want to delay graduating. Oyi, so many decisions!

    They said that any scrubs you buy elsewhere have to be approved because everyone MUST look the same. I know they had XS, but I don't remember Petite or Longs. HTH!

    I am in the second quarter of the program. The tutoring sessions are aimed at helping you learn how to improve your study habits and test skills, it's not necessarily a content focused session. I attended the sessions several tines, and while I didn't really gain anything new from them they are beneficial for many people. I would suggest going at least a couple of times just to see if any of their methods can help you get more from your studying.

    As far as scrubs go- since a couple of people asked, you do have to buy the ones from the bookstore (unless you are pregnant and need maternity scrubs). The tops have a nursing patch on the left sleeve and the pants aren't the most stylish - the are unisex scrubs- but it is what it is. They all have to be the same, and the clinical instructors are very strict when it comes to uniform and clinical dress code.