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Get off your ass and help everyone else out. Nothing ****** me off more than seeing one person sitting around doing nothing when everyone else is working.
Hi, I know this is the Nurses forum and Im a pre-nursing student. But I had a question for all of you. Nursing schools are limited where I live and very competative, my gpa is good but not good enough. Im thinking about going to a different kind of college like Carrington or ITT. I know their expensive and I know their credits dont transfer out. But Ive met a few nurses that graduated from there and are pretty happy they just got it over with without the gpa game.
So just wondering if any of you are grads from alternate schools and how your experience helped you or hurt you.
I'm a male nurse, I watch the show with my wife, and I thought that line was hilarious. Lighten up. It's a lighthearted show. Nothing Sue's character does (except for choosing her cheer assistant) is supposed to be taken seriously. I also put get in my hair, and do not find it insulting when she insults Will's hair.
Glee is not meant to be taken seriously. The show goes out of its way to offend everyone. When it first came on it came under heavy attack from conservatives because the students lie, cheat, and steal. The entire Glee club consists of students that are considered misfits in the school. The cheerleading coach who is also female is conniving, mean and bullies everyone. In short as goofy as the show is, the exaggerations make a good point that our society really does make those stereotypes. In short Glee is a show that parodies itself intentionally.
I wish it was a myth that people die in the US for lack of health insurance. I see a patients at least a few times a week whose disease is diagnosed so late that they can't be treated, or they decide not to take Tarceva/Nexxevar/TPN/stereotactic radiosurgery/whatever because they can't afford the 20%/50%/whatever copay. Diagnoses are made too late for some people because they get "care" in the emergency room and procedures like EGD or bronchoscopies aren't done in the ER. Diagnoses are made too late because the patient is too afraid of the outpatient doctors' copay to make an appointment. Once made, all those copays for medications, appointments, hospitalizations, tests, etc are outlined and even the insured have to consider them. For an uninsured patient to be given a choice between putting down $50,000 upfront or seeking care elsewhere... .well, maybe that's one of the places where people die for lack of health insurance. If it was as easy as getting people into Medicaid or whatever other system was out there (that isn't so broke that they stop accepting applications), I'd sure like to know where to send my patients. And so would the dozens of social workers at my hospital and dozens of hospitals in my area.
I was wondering if anyone can give me an example of empathy being used?
As a person who spent years making and developing drugs, I have to disagree. Yes, drugs are insanely expensive. But making and researching drugs is insanely expensive. People need to remember that drug companies are in fact drug COMPANIES and need to make money to stay afloat. People who make comments like that have no idea the complicated and expensive research that goes into making the simplest of drugs. That is in no way meant to be an insult. It is just so much more complicated than most people can ever understand.
No one forces you to take drugs. People are lucky as hell that the ones available are there for them to take. If I didn't pay for and take my pill every day, I'd be dead. That's a choice I make. I don't get ****** at the company for charging me for the pill, I am grateful that someone took the initiative to research my disease and make a pill available to me.
Magic Johnson found a cure for HIV. It's called sleeping with loads and loads of money. Haha South park reference, i wonder if anyone here knows it.
I didn't know that there were so many jobs requiring people to speak a foreign language. I live in an area that has a large Spanish-speaking population and almost all the jobs I've seen only say Spanish is a plus.
Only a few, those that deal specifically with a Spanish-speaking population require it, and usually it's not a must, it is a very strongly recommended note that you will be expected to learn this language quickly if you take the job.
I have been a medical interpreter for years, but I do it freelance, and I don't see that it has given me much of an edge in terms of the nursing jobs I really want. Usually they want the best nurse and if you are neck in neck with someone the language skills might give you a little bit of an advantage.
My experience taking jobs where Spanish is required is that they are so excited about the language that they don't really care about the important skills involved in patient care, and all too often I feel that it is because they know the clientele can't really advocate for themselves so standards are lower.
But that's just my experience and I have run screaming for the hills from a couple of those jobs.
I would much rather be hired because of my nursing skills.
That being said, I once required emergency surgery in a foreign country where not a soul spoke English. I can't imagine how awful it would have been if I didn't speak the language.
I think that we really do need to provide better language services for non-English speaking patients, whether it be through providing better interpreting services or providing staff with the resources and education to better communicate with paients.
It's only presumptuous if you believe that every single person who is in this country, and who does not speak at least enough English to get around, is too stupid to learn English. But if you believe that non English-speaking people are intelligent, and they have been in this country for any length of time, then they are refusing to learn to speak it.
Yes, I donate a modest amount to both my undergraduate and graduate alma maters. (The amounts have varied slightly depending on my financial status, student loan payoff, attending graduate school, etc.).
I'm able to designate my gifts to a specific nursing scholarship at each school. The way I see it...someone before helped me by donating, and now it's my turn to help someone else.
As someone who has worked in various behind the scenes offices working with financial gifts to my undergrad college, I think some of you need a reality check. The reason that colleges aren't going bankrupt is because many, many people make donations. It costs a DARN lot to run a college and without donations, they WOULD be bankrupt. I'm not saying that you need to donate if you don't want, but do realize that your tuition money does not go towards new buildings/facilities, or many other things that you think are lacking. Tuition goes towards paying the professors and support staff to teach YOU. That is why you pay to go there. Facilities, advertisement, etc., are all funded by donors.
It is a wee bit more complicated than that, but tuition does NOT pay to run a school.
Edited to add: Moogie, that is not surprising. At my institution, we keep track of spouse, children, business/home addresses, phones, emails, job titles and employers, and many, many, many, many other things that would surprise the average person.
Well, I was born at home in 1947 because mother, having had 4 previous deliveries, decided she couldn't leave her 3 living children (a sister had died the previous fall at age 3) while being in the hospital 10 days to 2 weeks post partum. The doctor came to the house. No problems encountered. But, back then, women were kept on absolute bedrest for a week or more after delivery, twilight sleep (demerol and scopolamine) was often used (the woman remembered nothing about being in hard leather restraints for the entire end of labor and the delivery), and women were considered "odd" if they wanted to breastfeed. Mother didn't have to go through that at home and was grateful for the freedom to do it her way.
When my sister had premature twins in 1957, she was not allowed into the nursery to hold or touch them until they were ready to be discharged home. She looked at them through the famous window in the nursery. And she wondered why the cleaning lady was allowed in there with no fanfare and she wasn't allowed in to touch her own babies.
I'm not at all wanting to go back to the "good old days" that some people remember so fondly. They weren't all that good for me and mine.
Ilg is so right about the importance of attending to the linens, the hygeine, mouth care, pericare, etc, If it isn't done or isn't done right the patient will likely feel pretty miserable.
But if a nursing student is uncomfortable with this for whatever reason (scar, psoriasis, obesity, religious concerns, whatever) just like the patient might be, you throw the role playing exercise right out the window and tell them "what's the big deal?" "Get over it!" "You need therapy!" ??
If the reason to do this is as many have suggested, a forced lesson in "empathy" or a touchy-feely bonding exercise, at least let that purpose be known up front. The mechanics of a bed bath even on "real" patients can be learned very well, as well as how to do procedures with the least amount of pain and exposure for your patient without having it done to yourself. The vast majority of things done to hospitalized patients will not be done on us, ever.
Really, is it appropriate to hint that CatLPN has "issues" with her SO?? That is nobody's business, and honestly some of the callous attitudes from people when someone objects to this makes me dislike the process even more than I did before. Flame away.
edit: I just wanted to add this because of the post from the patient above- when we had another heated thread on this topic a few months ago I did ask some friends in a position to comment on it as patients - what I heard from them was mostly a variation on "you will never know what it's like by giving one bed bath on your healthy friends one time in a simulated hospital environment."
I've given birth twice, had a whole gaggle of med students watch my crotch as I pushed babies out, had foley insertions, have had my cervix checked multiple times by multiple people, had one resident try to manually turn my baby's head/body vaginally, had my bare butt high in the air as I was attempting to get my baby's head off my spine due to the pain...
When you're in the hospital, you expect professionalism, some semblance of privacy, and everything is being done to help you medically.
When you're with your classmates, you see them everyday, you see them socially, you are acquaintances or friends. It is NOT the same, and I'm surprised by some of the responses here. IMO, it doesn't foster empathy because you know that the context is not the same. One might feel it is just a ridiculous exercise that in no way resembles actually being a patient. (And, I would agree!)
I'm not a particularly modest person, but even I wouldn't wear a bathing suit in that situation. I would have a little bit more covering me. Yet, I have no problem wearing a bathing suit in front of dozens of strangers at the pool. The difference? Context..and the fact that my classmates hands would be all over me!
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