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  • May 25

    I don't know. How are things in your area?

    For mine? Sure, there is. If you can actually find a job as a new tech....*laugh*
    Xray technologists or radiographers(sorry, it's always annoyed me. We're not 'technicians'. We're not freakin' mechanics, people! *laugh*) tend to gobble up the work, employed with 2 and 3 jobs. You may have a weekday job, a weekend on-call job for another company. Whatever.
    Additionally, health careers tend to be big on experience. I've never seen the market quite like this, honestly. But, maybe that's because I just haven't lived long enough?
    Some in my area ask me about my luck (although I'm in nursing school and am burned out on xray) because they're having such a time. I live in Texas. Not sure what's going on. Like my fellow hospital personnel (nurses), I'm used to being able to walk into a rad jobs, too. As early as 2008, I had folks throwing positions at me. Just didn't want them. These days? The climate's a bit different.
    I do believe that radiology fares better. People are flocking to nursing for the money+stability, which is a shame. Still, they don't know about xray...which should leave radiology wide open. Ironically, if these ppl are only entering health professions for the money, xray is probably the best place that they can go. With nursing, you HAVE to deal with people. Like, REALLY deal with them.
    Xray? Eh. You don't exactly have to boast exceptonal people skills to do the job. You 'shoot xrays'; you don't 'take care of pts'.

    Anyway, rad techs start off at $21/hr (about) in the hospital. $21-26/hr. I'll say.
    Rad techs earn $15-20 in the doc office. Anything less? You're getting robbed....

    You won't break $100,000 but you'll earn a respectable amount. You can do $60,000/year, 'specially if you have no kids. Depends on how hard you want to work and the amount of hours that you have to work. That's how it is for all health care professions really. Well...the HIGHLY-PAID occupation, I mean.
    Xray and nursing...uh, and I think that's it.

    You can do CT after that. They start at about $27/hr. I was military trained so, I didn't go to a 'school' for it. I don't know if a 'school' for CT exists. We just walked on over to CT to be trained.
    But you'll have to go to Mammo school and Ultrasound (us) school if you want to do that.

    As an xray tech, you work as needed. So long as there are xrays and ppl keep coming in? You work.
    Speed and accuracy are your friends. It's not the same w/nursing.
    In xray, you identify, verify and shoot the exam, tell them when to expect their report/refer ? to doc and wave goodbye.
    The 'day to day' is akin to an assembly plant. *laugh* Get em in and out. You churn 'em out.
    The work consists of basic xrays and fluoroscopy (IVP, VCUG, BE, BS, UGI,etc...)
    - You may do 'portables'.
    - You may do C-Arm (which is similar to fluoroscopy. You go to the OR and watch the surgery then take some pics.

    Every other radiology modality? Works with scheduled pts with the occasional add-on (stat/asap) for 'diagnostic' studies.

    CT is where you'll see the most action. Why? Pt's come to the ER and, especially if it's an MVA, they always go to CT. And, when they get there, they always 'try' to die. It's as if they know....
    "I'm in radiology with a skittish CT tech. Now, I can let go...."
    You'll get lots of sticks b/c some pts require 'contrast' for their scans.

    Overall, radiology is monotonous and I find it odd that they're so highly paid when you don't do even HALF the work of a nurse.
    ...and every stage gets progressively lazi-er.

    The US techs used to scan standing up to keep from falling asleep. It's hot in that there b/c of the machine. The lights are low. No one is talking. They have that elevator music on and they're staring into the screen of that computer....*laugh*
    Every now and then you get a diagnostic breast biopsy or a DVT. That livens things up.

    Mammo? They just squish boobs all day long. Now that many depts have gone digital, they don't even have to hang film. What, oh they do when they aren't squishing boobies, these days? I guess they just squeeze more boobs into their schedule.

    Oh yeah...
    -- You can shoot with a state license. You just can't work in a hospital b/c you're not qualified to do Fluoro.
    -- Don't worry about the math. Conversions are not difficult and the machines that we have these days practically think for you. Although you will have to understand the concepts to improve image quality, i.e., cutting the 'mass' in half, decreasing time, the relationship between Mass and KVP...stuff like that.
    It's not difficult. Unless you're in a doc office, it's possible that you won't even be working on film or see the inside of a darkroom in the real world. Although, it'd be nice if you did. Computers go down. We had our digital system crash on us, twice. Guess what happened? We blew the dust off that processor and wrote orders by hand.

    Sorry, if this post is all over the place. I'm kind of tired.

  • Jan 29

    I don't know. Most of the nurses that I'm related to and personally know (RNs) 'earn well'.
    Of course, they have paid their dues. They hop in and out of different specialties. They travel. They work OT and PRNs. They've been nursing for 1000 years, so they'd automatically rec'v the higher salaries....LOL
    You won't earn as much with an LVN, but I think...the key to earning money as an LVN lies in positioning. I work double w/ends (20/hr) and staffing (17-25...but I take the 'easier' cases b/c I don't have the confidence to nurse at actual facilities so I take the lower pay. $17/hr) during the week.
    If I worked to my potential, I could pull $2000/check (est).
    I don't, though. I work my 32 hours and maybe one 12 during the week. In time, I will. Just not now. I'm still a new nurse with 5 months under my belt (a/o 11 Dec 2012)

    Now, they may not have to work AS hard for that money...because certain specialities will pay more. But this is the only way I know that a non Ca/NY native, non AP nurse (RN) can bust $90,000 to $100,000/yr....
    Some states pay better than others, mind you.

    'Big money'? It's all relative. Personally, I can live very well on $50,000/year. That's not a lot of money. I don't believe that $100,000/year is 'big money', either. Others do. That's fine. It makes sense. It really doesn't take much to be a 10%-er in this country. $62,000-85,000/year is good for a single earner, actually
    Why should anyone get offended when others talk about 'the big money' of nursing? When the average household income hovers around $50,000 (barely middle class), yes -- the average nurse salary is going to look like 'a lotta money' a lot of people.
    ...and all of this talk about what other occupations earn and how 'engineers'
    never 'discuss nurse earnings'?
    Ya'll act like every American has a college degree....
    They don't. Not the majority. Not even close... and the amt of Americans toting a grad degree is ridiculously low, as well.

    Section 8 Mom?
    'Disposable income'? Section 8 Mom had...'disposable income'? Those words don't even go together...LOL
    Of course, Section 8 mom's CNA income was 'disposable'. EVERYONE ELSE was paying her damned way...! LOL
    Moving up in the world, meant dropping illusions. I had a typical upper-middle class upbringing. BUT... I'm worldly enough to discern the difference between having 'disposable income'...?
    ... and being 'hood rich'.

  • Jan 26

    I am 'friendly'. I laugh and joke around, but I no longer keep friends at work.
    We're not hanging out on the weekends. No - I may not go to the Christmas party. Stop asking. I don't discuss my personal business with anyone which is difficult because everyone wants to get in your personal business.
    Lots of over-sharing takes place. In my experiences, anyway.

    I don't say that it can't be done. I don't say that I've never done had work besties that bled inot real life, but not at my current place of work. Sorry.

    They're gossipy. I don't like that. They're busybodies. I don't like that, either. There's always gossip and coworker bashing going on at the nurses station. I don't like being around that. I feel like, if I can't say it to your face? I won't say it behind your back.
    That's me. Others...differ.
    Running your coworkers into the dirt destroys morale and I know because the very minute I caught folks doing it? I developed immediate reservations and steered clear of some of them. If they talk ugly about this girl (who is actually nice). What do they say about me?
    This individual senses 'something' in our shallow interactions. There is 'something'. I didn't have a 'problem' with her until I heard what she said about our coworker.
    So, I just don't go into the nurse's station unless I need something.

    They've tried to draw me into the bashing of one coworker, too. Yes!
    I speak to her. Why not? Hell, I speak to everyone. LOL So, they kind of look at me and poke fun on occasion. 'Oh, that's your best friend' and blah, blah, blah.
    Light-hearted jeering. I don't have much issue with this nurse. Though I think it tacky to0 continuously drag the entire staff into your drama, the dislike is known and fairly mutual. At least she's upfront about it. Not going around the other girl's back.
    So, I say, "I don't have any friends in this dept. I have professional relationships with everyone. I talk to her because I don't have a problem with her. I'm no closer to her than I am to you...and I'm talking to you, so..."
    The jokes continue and I participateright nown it. Get a few laughs. They're funny after all.
    I simply say, "Well...meh. I'm not in that. Not my business. I don't spread gossip. I don't peddle info back n forth...mostly 'cause I dont' like to be in the midst of drama and crap...."
    The jeering continues.
    I laugh and exit the nurse's station. It's like a shark tank in there.

    I'm not the only one who does it, too.
    I've witnessed them badmouthing each other, then badmouthing a member of the group when a smaller number of them gathers. Seen a bunch. Way I see it?
    If you talk about them, you'll talk about me. I read people well. I worked in a rad dept that was cut-throat beyond belief. Coming into nursing? I know what to expect. I know 'toxic' when I see it. When I see any of this two-faced/******/drama queen/Mean Girl behavior, I know that it's in my best interests to keep to myself. Mostly.
    I'm naturally reserved but I do have a personality. I just put my head down and do my work. I keep to myself at work. I'm not the only one in my dept who does this.
    Ironically, WE (the quiet ones) kind of clique up at work. It's strange. LOL
    Apparently, they know better than to get all 'friendly' with our coworkers, too. We don't badmouth our coworkers, but we just intuitively 'know' what's really going on, I think.

    If a coworker is quiet and off to themselves? There's a good reason for it, usually. They've probably been burned or they know enough to recognize certain personalities/dept dynamics for what they are...and stay under the radar.

  • Jan 7

    Both, I'd say.
    When you do questions, you're reviewing content. I mean - you should be or what's the point of doing a butt-load of quizzes? I've read people on here say, 'Oh, I do 500-1000 questions a week'.

    Yeah...but are you LEARNING? Are you retaining anything? Do you understand the material?
    How does one review and plug those knowledge gaps and understand the material when study-time revolves around the constant answering of questions?

    I, personally, never got much from doing bazillions of questions. Overkill and a waste of time.
    I'd do maybe 30 questions and a focused review on my wrong answers or even correct answers that I merely guessed correctly.
    I checked the rationale for the correct answer. Then, I'd crack my textbook and ATI manual (med surg, pharm, fundamentals, etc...) and read up on it. I would usually read the entire chapter.

    Sometimes, I'd make a little research project out of it. Do a PP presentation. I'm very much a hands-on type learner. If I perform the activity once? I learn it. I recently had to discuss the importance/point of administering Lovenox to one of our post-op residents (femur fx) to one of our GVNs...and was surprised (as I spoke) by my recall. I literally started rattling off about blood clots off the top of my head.

    My suggestions?
    - Focus on what you don't know.
    - Know content. It's the only way to do well on SATA questions, for instance. SATAs are straight-forward. There is no special 'trick' or 'tip' to getting the correct answer. You either know the material or you don't.

    I passed boards on the first try in under and 1:30 minutes with 85 questions. (I'm an LVN). I prepared with nothing but the ATI program and my school textbooks. I'm against using multiple sources.

    Good luck.

  • Nov 19 '17

    Quote from ashley2009
    I graduated in May 2012 from an LVN program. I did very well in Clinicals but on test, i ranged from C's and D's. Some B's. My test date is Thursday and i been studying every day, making sure im not over studying also. I have taken several ATI tests and im getting 63%-70%. Its really discouraging. I'm also studying from the Saunders Book and doing flash cards. Since I'm doing bad on ATI test, will I do bad on NCLEX?
    I don't understand the problem. How are you doing so 'poorly', in your opinion?

    For the quizzes, 60% denotes 'content mastery'. Coach might have you take more tests and assign some homework, but you'll move on to other modules.
    ATI demands a 95% chance of passing for the 'greenlight'.
    My school? We had to have a 90% chance of passing...and that's about a 60% on the Predictor, I think.
    If you're getting 63-70% on your tests, it still represents a high pass-rate percentage.

    From my ATI page:
    Criterion-Referenced Measure -
    Probability of Passing NCLEX-PNŽ:
    The following expectancy table was developed by
    comparing PN Comprehensive PredictorŽ scores
    to NCLEX-PNŽ performance for a sample of PN
    students. As can be seen from the table, higher
    Predictor scores tend to indicate a higher
    probability of passing the NCLEX-PNŽ. However,
    students should use caution when interpreting
    the table because numerous factors can influence
    performance on both the Predictor and the
    For example, note that a student with a score of
    57.3% correct would be expected to have a 90%
    chance of passing the NCLEX-PNŽ on the first
    attempt. Although this is a high probability of success,
    it is not a guarantee. For every 100 students with this
    score, 90 are predicted to pass and 10 are predicted
    to fail.

    PN Comprehensive PredictorŽ VATI Individual Score
    Predicted Probability of Passing the
    74.0% - 100.0% 95%
    66.7% - 73.3% 94%
    62.7% - 66.0% 93%
    58.0% - 62.0% 91% - 92%

    54.7% - 57.3% 89% - 90%
    50.0% - 54.0% 85% - 88%
    44.7% - 49.3% 79% - 84%
    38.0% - 44.0% 65% - 77%
    30.0% - 37.3% 41% - 62%
    20.7% - 29.3% 11% - 38%
    0.0% - 20.0% <10%

    I found the NCLEX to be way less comprehensive than ATI. Everything was dialed back. Even the SATA, though there were a lot of them on my exam, weren't that bad. Actually, I'll be even more honest -- and I usually don't like saying it like this b/c so many people on this board seem to have such difficult with that exam, BUT: I thought NCLEX was easy. There, I said it. LOL
    There was a degree of difficulty, but I - a wee little black woman of average intelligence - thought it 'easy'.
    I knew that I'd passed halfway through the exam and when I walked out of there.
    ...and that's something else to consider.
    Wouldn't you rather that your test prep be harder than the actual exam?

    Either way, there are no guarantees which is great for those who need to improve.

    The only thing that ATI does is test knowledge content, application and comprehension.
    Either you know it or you don't.
    Yet, 'comprehension' is a something that can be improved. Nothing's set in stone.
    So, you're not cranking out 80's and 90's on your quizzes? So what?

    You can do poorly on ATI, but you can STUDY and still pass NCLEX.
    Conversely, you can do excellent on ATI. Take a break. Schedule the exam 4 months later. Not review and bomb it. a certain valedictorian that I know, exactly 3 cohorts ahead of mine, who shall remain forever nameless. It happens like that, I'm telling you.
    The valedictorian failed NCLEX. How embarrassing...and not because she 'failed'. Rather, because it really made no sense for her TO fail.

    How can you forget it, I wonder? NCLEX questions are pretty basic. It truly is just ensuring that the nurse has enough competancy to not kill anyone.
    So, someone who pulls A's out of their butt for every test from Fundamentals to Pharm to Leadership should retain enough info to pass NCLEX, the first time.

    Oh, yeah - I'm judging it! LOL Make no mistake about it.
    Like a year's worth of schooling just leaks out of your brain? Maybe GVNs/GN's should start packing their ears with cotton and duct-tape their ears before they go to sleep at night.

    How can you forget? It's not like you stop studying once you land yourself a job. Heck, I STILL research and study things. Every night.
    When you apply for jobs - with staffing and homehealth, especially - you still have to take competancy tests. It's not like some of these employers are going to take your word for it.
    "Oh, yeah...I graduated with a 4.0 on a 4.0 scale..."

    "Uh, Can you prove it?" LOL
    I've an interview tomorrow (why am I still up on ALLNURSES? LOL) and I had to take 4 tests (with time limits) for those people.
    - HIPAA. 15 questions
    - Infection Control. 15 questions
    - Nursing Comprehensive. 50 questions.
    - LVN test. 30 questions.

    For another job that I wanted but didn't get, I had to take a dos cal/pharm test and a matching Pharm exam. 'Match the disorder with the med that treats it'.
    Like, 20 questions a piece. The math was simple, though. 'Desired/Have'. It's not like I was calculating gtt rates.

  • Sep 19 '17

    I like having the week off to do 'whatever the hell I want', period.
    I work Sat-Sun. 7-11p. The funny thing is, everyone but people in nursing thinks this is a cool shift. You'd think I would have to fight my coworkers off for this shift...yeah, right. My coworkers are so conditioned to work through the week - they think I'm 'missing out' because I don't have weekends off.

    'But you work during the week end...?"
    '...but I have 5 days off.'
    "Yeah, but you miss everything that happens on the weekends."
    "You mean what happens on SATURDAY because 'Sunday' is the day to sleep it off before I have to drag myself to work at the buttcrack of dawn on Monday. Did I mention having 5 days off..."

    You can pick up another job. I did.
    You can go back to school. I am.
    You can lay around and blow farts all day. No comment.
    Most times, I'd just drive around. Walk around the store. Go to the spa. Piddle about the house.
    Honestly, I understand that some things are just plain better 'in theory, only'. The less I have to work, the less productive I am.
    Last Friday, I resigned from my clinic job upon deciding to return to school. I bought Grand Theft Auto 5 about 3 weeks ago. I've been playing since Saturday. My boyfriend just shakes his head. To be perfectly honest, I just might spend the better half of the week on my 360.
    ...and not a single hint of shame shall be felt about it.

  • Jul 28 '17

    We all need faith- I hope that wherever the wind may blow, no matter how difficult life comes- faith can reach us all. I have faith there has to be a better tomorrow; why? Because without it, there's no use in living. I'd say faith is enough- enough to give us Hope.
    'No use living'...for you.

    I'm an atheist and I get on fine, thanks. If there's something to be done, I understand that I can't lean on some sky-god to carry me 45% of the way. I have to pull myself together and take myself there with my own two little legs.
    Through sheer willpower and action have I done as much as I have in this life.
    I have plenty of reasons to go on living and plenty of things to be proud of. My life's work - the life that I lead - is something to be proud of.

    I thought that it was a nice story, too. Until I hit the conclusion.
    Yes - this poster IS talking about 'religious faith'. Obviously.
    So, because I don't have religious faith - there's no point in living. Great.
    It doesn't offend. It annoys and I've no idea why any in this thread would try to pretend that the individual is not saying what's so clearly written in black bold print.

    ...and they wonder why militant atheists exist.