Please note in the instructions for the training form that it says that "if your institution uses credits rather than hours, they must tell us how many hours make up a theory credit and how many hours make up a practice credit. Without this important information, we will not be able to process your application."
The dean from my school wrote a letter to fulfill this part.
Sorry guys.
I was postcall yesterday and still had work my 12 hours...rough week. Here is the info you requested:
After having two different meetings with the dean and having her correct the initial numbers that she put on my form, I ended up with 1352 clinical hours. I don't have my transcript with me as I sent it to the NMC but the website, Degree Requirements: Bachelor of Science in Nursing: Degree Options: School of Nursing: Indiana University
gives an overview of the courses I took but it doesn't break it out from didactic to clinical on the courses.
The dean did the letter which stated how the clinical coursework was calculated.
It states: For every one credit hour of nursing clinical practicum coursework, there are three actual training hours x the number of weeks of the clnical course (typically 16). So for a 3 credit hour clinical course, the formula would be 3 x 3 x 16 = total training hours for that clinical course.
I graduated from Indiana University School of Nursing. The dean was already aware of how to calculate up the credit hours and convert them to actual hours.
The didactic, or theory, portion of the calculations were figured by the university guidelines.
The letter from the dean states:
For every one credit hour of nursing didactic coursework, there are 50 minutes of actual classroom lecture x the number of week of that course (typically 16). So for a 3 credit hour didactic course, the formula would be 3 x 50 minutes x 16 weeks = total classroom hours for that didactic nursing course.
The dean did not include ANY of the courses that were not nurse specific
Mine is 2256. And the minimum requirement is 2300. That's why I'm apprehensive about pushing through with this.
My hours were quite a bit lower than what their supposed requirement is. Granted I did my education in a different country than you but they certainly are not that strict about the hour suggestion. Take a look at mine:
nursing clinical hours - 1352
nursing didactic hours - 733
total on form - 2085
I just received my decision letter from the NMC today. I sent all of my paperwork with my application out on 25th September minus the training form which I sent out on 2nd October. I confirmed they received everything by 13th October.
My decision letter is dated 25th October and I received it today, 30th October. Talk about fast service!! I have had no problems with the NMC in any of my interaction with them. They receive an A+ from me for providing me with what I needed in a timely fashion.
I started this journey on 19th June when I sat for my IELTS. All the headache and paperwork has been well worth it.
If anyone else from the US has any questions, please feel free to ask.
"Totally understand that the rules are the rules and you have to follow the rules in order to gain success."
I'm not arguing that they don't have the right to do things however they want. They do--it's their country and the foreigner is asking to join their club, gotta play by their rules. I'm just saying that this isn't all that logical. There are many things about the various American board of nursing departments that I find rather silly and wouldn't hesitate to say as such either. Don't even get me started on American immigration!
The "academic English" reason is not particularly valid, IMO, either because the NMC require a BSN, which is and of itself requiring academic presentation and writing. Perhaps not in other countries, granted, but even in an American ADN, one has to do clinical write-ups and various papers and essays.
My British husband is very surprised that this kind of thing occurs, actually, and why more people haven't complained or "moaned" as he puts it
Best of luck with your application!
Oh dear.
My opinion was not directed at your comment. I'm not even sure that I read your comment per say but just the jist of the entire idea, as I have heard it before from many other people.
Sorry if you felt that it was directed at you at all as it wasn't. My English husband felt it was very funny that I had to take it and we had a good chuckle as I passed it easy enough.
And please understand that the academic english comment I had was directed at ones who do not have english as a first language. Sorry if I upset you at all. Did not intend to have you feel that you have to justify what you previously said.
I understand the annoyance with having to pay $185 to take a language test when you clearly speak the language. However, the IELTS exam that is required is the academic version. There may be people who can speak English and understand it but doing it in an academic way may not be what they are used to.
In my opinion, it comes down to how much you want to get registered in the UK. If it is something that you truly want to do, then you will jump through all the hoops that they have required. I took my IELTS exam and I received 9's on all areas. It was annoying to have to take an exam in my first and only language but I was willing to do it in order to have the opportunity to register. That part was just the beginning in the long line of hoops that I needed to jump through in sending in my application. It will all be worth it if I get approved...still waiting though.
While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, there are ones who like to post just to get other people wound up. It seems that IMHO the best thing to do for these people is to just ignore them as it is not worth anyone's energy to amuse them. Laughing when other people are obviously bothered is a clear indication of someone being malicious. Don't waste your time with the nonsense and just continue to act in the professional manner that a nurse should. It came to mind that anyone can join this forum and they certainly don't even need to be nurses. Just keep that in mind when someone comes up with this type of discussion.
hi just wanna ask.. i'm graduate of BSN in the philippines and now i'm currently enrroled in NVQ uk for 2 years... is it possible for me to take the ONP after the NVQ course eventhough i'm not a licensed nurse in my country?
In order to take the ONP, you will need to show them a decision letter from the NMC. In order to receive this letter, you obviously need to apply for registration to the NMC. As others have said, you must have one year post-certificate experience in your own country before applying.
I just visited Bournemouth University in July and they are still offering the ONP but not any extended placement if it is decided that you need that. Also, the website shows dates through 2011 in which they will be offering the programme.
Hi!
I'm in the same predicament as you, I'm only here in Oxford. I've sent my pack in as well and am crossing my fingers. I was wondering if you've heard anything yet? I hope it works out for you!
No, I have not heard anything. I did ring the NMC today to check and see if they have received everything in the post. They still have yet to receive my training form, but I did not expedite it when I posted it. Should be there by next week, and I will call to make sure they received it. After that, just a waiting game.
I will def reply here when I do hear something and hope that you do as well, as I would like to know how you get on with it.
Everything crossed for both of us!
Why do countries in demand of nursing require overseas nurses to have experience?
I know these countries have the right to be choosy. But I think overseas fresh nursing graduates registered in their respective countries would be also competent in rendering nursing care abroad too, given that they pass the required examinations/programs to be able to work abroad. I sense an impending sermon/lecture in 3,2,1! ahihi!
Simple point without a lecture:
Experience makes a world of difference. Until you are the sole person responsible for your actions and you have to think on your own, sometimes in the blink of an eye, it doesn't matter how many exams you've taken or programs you have been through.
I sent out my last form to the NMC for registration. Of course, it was my transcript of training form showing all my training hours. Only thing to do now is wait.
Interested if there are any US trained nurses who have recently successfully registered with the NMC with their 3-year BSN degree?
I'm moving to Portsmouth but if it turns out that I can't get registered with the NMC then I may have to move closer to Mildenhall in hopes of getting a civilian nursing job at the US air force base hospital there. Major problem with that is that my husband is stuck near Portsmouth for his job.
Of course, I can always scrub toilets or the like.
How about paramedic training in the UK? Does anyone have any info on that?
Thanks SD. I also read other threads on here that alluded to this issue. As well as the issue that UK nurses have when coming over here. Thanks for your insight.
Please note in the instructions for the training form that it says that "if your institution uses credits rather than hours, they must tell us how many hours make up a theory credit and how many hours make up a practice credit. Without this important information, we will not be able to process your application."
The dean from my school wrote a letter to fulfill this part.
Sorry guys.
I was postcall yesterday and still had work my 12 hours...rough week. Here is the info you requested:
After having two different meetings with the dean and having her correct the initial numbers that she put on my form, I ended up with 1352 clinical hours. I don't have my transcript with me as I sent it to the NMC but the website, Degree Requirements: Bachelor of Science in Nursing: Degree Options: School of Nursing: Indiana University
gives an overview of the courses I took but it doesn't break it out from didactic to clinical on the courses.
The dean did the letter which stated how the clinical coursework was calculated.
It states: For every one credit hour of nursing clinical practicum coursework, there are three actual training hours x the number of weeks of the clnical course (typically 16). So for a 3 credit hour clinical course, the formula would be 3 x 3 x 16 = total training hours for that clinical course.
I graduated from Indiana University School of Nursing. The dean was already aware of how to calculate up the credit hours and convert them to actual hours.
The didactic, or theory, portion of the calculations were figured by the university guidelines.
The letter from the dean states:
For every one credit hour of nursing didactic coursework, there are 50 minutes of actual classroom lecture x the number of week of that course (typically 16). So for a 3 credit hour didactic course, the formula would be 3 x 50 minutes x 16 weeks = total classroom hours for that didactic nursing course.
The dean did not include ANY of the courses that were not nurse specific
HTH
nursing clinical hours - 1352
nursing didactic hours - 733
total on form - 2085
nursing clinical hours - 1352
nursing didactic hours - 733
total on form - 2085
this did not include any of the two semesters of prerequisites that I had to do including my anatomy, physiology, or microbiology courses.
I just received my decision letter from the NMC today. I sent all of my paperwork with my application out on 25th September minus the training form which I sent out on 2nd October. I confirmed they received everything by 13th October.
My decision letter is dated 25th October and I received it today, 30th October. Talk about fast service!! I have had no problems with the NMC in any of my interaction with them. They receive an A+ from me for providing me with what I needed in a timely fashion.
I started this journey on 19th June when I sat for my IELTS. All the headache and paperwork has been well worth it.
If anyone else from the US has any questions, please feel free to ask.
My opinion was not directed at your comment. I'm not even sure that I read your comment per say but just the jist of the entire idea, as I have heard it before from many other people.
Sorry if you felt that it was directed at you at all as it wasn't. My English husband felt it was very funny that I had to take it and we had a good chuckle as I passed it easy enough.
And please understand that the academic english comment I had was directed at ones who do not have english as a first language. Sorry if I upset you at all. Did not intend to have you feel that you have to justify what you previously said.
I understand the annoyance with having to pay $185 to take a language test when you clearly speak the language. However, the IELTS exam that is required is the academic version. There may be people who can speak English and understand it but doing it in an academic way may not be what they are used to.
In my opinion, it comes down to how much you want to get registered in the UK. If it is something that you truly want to do, then you will jump through all the hoops that they have required. I took my IELTS exam and I received 9's on all areas. It was annoying to have to take an exam in my first and only language but I was willing to do it in order to have the opportunity to register. That part was just the beginning in the long line of hoops that I needed to jump through in sending in my application. It will all be worth it if I get approved...still waiting though.
While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, there are ones who like to post just to get other people wound up. It seems that IMHO the best thing to do for these people is to just ignore them as it is not worth anyone's energy to amuse them. Laughing when other people are obviously bothered is a clear indication of someone being malicious. Don't waste your time with the nonsense and just continue to act in the professional manner that a nurse should. It came to mind that anyone can join this forum and they certainly don't even need to be nurses. Just keep that in mind when someone comes up with this type of discussion.
Spoke to NMC today and verified that they have received all of my documentation. It's just time to wait on their decision.
I just visited Bournemouth University in July and they are still offering the ONP but not any extended placement if it is decided that you need that. Also, the website shows dates through 2011 in which they will be offering the programme.
I will def reply here when I do hear something and hope that you do as well, as I would like to know how you get on with it.
Everything crossed for both of us!
Experience makes a world of difference. Until you are the sole person responsible for your actions and you have to think on your own, sometimes in the blink of an eye, it doesn't matter how many exams you've taken or programs you have been through.
I sent out my last form to the NMC for registration. Of course, it was my transcript of training form showing all my training hours. Only thing to do now is wait.
Interested if there are any US trained nurses who have recently successfully registered with the NMC with their 3-year BSN degree?
I'm moving to Portsmouth but if it turns out that I can't get registered with the NMC then I may have to move closer to Mildenhall in hopes of getting a civilian nursing job at the US air force base hospital there. Major problem with that is that my husband is stuck near Portsmouth for his job.
Of course, I can always scrub toilets or the like.
How about paramedic training in the UK? Does anyone have any info on that?
Thanks SD. I also read other threads on here that alluded to this issue. As well as the issue that UK nurses have when coming over here. Thanks for your insight.