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  • Sep 2 '11

    CINHAL is a great place to start.

  • Sep 2 '11

    Have you used your school library's database. CINHAL is a database for nurses and other healthcare providers. I usually try to look for items that include the entire article (full text). Good luck.

  • Aug 27 '11

    Quote from sameyjaney
    How do you deal with the rude nurses you encounter at the work place? Usually I am fine and I just shrug off the occasional snide comment or eye roll. Most of the time I take it as an opportunity to learn because I understand that not all feedback is "constructive." But, it is only one particular person on my unit who engages in this unprofessional behavior. And, what really gets me is no one says anything to her. She was very disrespectful to me in front of a few other nurses at the nurse's station today. If I too engaged in unprofessional behavior like hers I would have stuck up for myself. However, I just can't get myself to engage in that kind of drama at work because I would feel unprofessional and usually don't have time. Other nurses give me a sympathetic smile, but no one says anything. I am really beginning to resent her. Not only resent her, but I fear giving shift report to her because I know she is going to have some rude comment about some aspect of my care (the IV fluids are less than full, the chart is not in the pull down, I didn't choose her first to give report to so now she is waiting for me while I give report to someone else etc.) For example, today my patient died 5 minutes before change of shift. I got orders to release the body, called the family, fixed the pt up in bed and started the post-mortum paperwork. I am new and another nurse was helping me fill out the paper work. I did not call the donor line as change of shift was starting as I was doing the other tasks that needed to get done. I asked the nurse (who was helping me with the paperwork) if this was appropriate and let the charge know how far I had gotten on the paper work so she could alter assignments accordingly. I passed this pt off to the nurse as it was going to be one of her patients. It was not an extra pt for her. She had the same number as all others on the floor. She flipped when I told her I had not called the donor line. Rolled her eyes, stomped her feet, grunted and flew over to the desk. I followed and asked if she would like me to stay after to fill out the paper work for her and she shouted, "Just leave." I keep replaying the incident wondering what I could have done differently. I want to be on good terms with all who I work with, but I don't want to stick around after my shift has ended because I am scared of one nurse's temper. I know she had one task to do on this pt, but that was ALL she had to do. No VS, no assessment, no medications, no procedures, no orders etc. The family planned on staying for at least 3-4 hours (so no new admit coming). And, the caregivers take the body down to the morgue. Would you approach her next time and ask how I could have acted differently in the situation? Or would you let it go? I doubt myself in these situations sometimes wondering if I acted appropriately. Do you think I was wrong to pass it off to her? Any feedback is appreciated.

    This is why i thank my lucky stars every day that i am a hospice nurse--in my car alone; i drive to the patient, fix the problem, get the heck out of dodge, and do not have to deal with other nurses usually. And this, after suffering with the same crap you describe for 15 years in acute care. Hospice is not as punitive as acute care.

  • Aug 18 '11

    We sometimes teach people how to treat us, and unfortunately it seems you've taught this woman how to treat you. Have you ever wondered why some people are always victimized by bullies and other people are always left alone? Yes, I said it: your unprofessional coworker sounds like a bully to me.

    I have observed that bullies always target certain individuals, and at the same time, leave the other people on the unit alone. Unfortunately, it's all about perception. If you are perceived as a softy who will not stand up to the bully, you'll be targeted for further harassment. If you're perceived as someone who will put up resistance and not allow anyone to run over you, then the bully will quickly know to leave you alone because you're now viewed as too difficult of a target.

    In a nutshell, bullies love easy targets. They thrive on people who will not do anything in response to the bullying. Bullies avoid harder targets and tend to steer clear of people who will openly resist being pushed around.

    Bullying is a crime of opportunity. Bullies prey on the most opportune targets: people who are less likely to respond in a defensive manner to the bullying. Also, if nothing is done during the first instance of bullying, bullies will continue the rampage, because they now know they can get away with it.

  • Sep 17 '10

    Shut up and lawyer up is my advice. That means no more posting on internet forums. That also implies you will not reply to this thread. Good luck.

  • Sep 17 '10

    Hope your final weeks are enjoyable as you near graduation!

  • Sep 16 '10

    grandmawrinkle - there are people here who - if this were a discussion of traffic offenses, view going 56 mph in a 55 zone as equivalent to a hit and run accident.

    I've gone round and round with some. . . but now I back out of interacting with them.

  • Sep 16 '10

    Quote from Flying ICU RN
    My experience with this kind of thing is not so much righteousness on the part of the accuser as it is more of a bid for brownie points at someone else's expense. So my caution is this, take care and think twice about throwing someone to the wolves willy nilly since sometimes on occasion, that just may be the meanest wolf in the pack.
    TOTALLY agree with this. You are making enemies for yourself if you start throwing around accusations that are unfounded. Maybe the meds were missed, maybe they weren't. Maybe she would fess up to missing them if you confronted her, maybe she wouldn't. Regardless of whether she did or did not miss the meds, she's not going to like it if you report her to management. I prefer to give my coworkers the benefit of the doubt in these types of scenarios -- she charted she gave it, that means that she is saying that she gave it -- why don't we take people at their word? Perhaps an error was made, but no one is perfect, and it is to no one's benefit to create an workplace environment where nurses feel like they need to watch their backs for fear of a report or write-up.

    I am shocked to see how many people on here equate missing a few doses of Pepcid to the diversion of narcotics. That hurts and angers me, as much as a message board can do that. Are you people all really that judgmental?

    Quote from GM2RN
    This is why I recommended in a previous post, as a couple of others did, that only the facts of the discrepency be reported, without the inclusion of any suspicions or accusations. Plus, I maintain that if the OP does not do this, she leaves herself open to the possibility of an accusation of wrongdoing by the other nurse involved. I agree that it should be done carefully, but it must be done nevertheless.

    Edit: I deal with medication discrepencies often in the ED when I have to check the omni. If I ever find something that I can't explain, the facts of the discrepency go to my manager, no suspicions or accusations, but the facts that are presented on the printout from the omni, and then it's up to her what to do about it. There's no way for me to get around this. I don't see this situation as any different, except that it would have been possible for the OP to try and sweep this under the rug due to not having a printout from an omni cell that shows discrepencies that need to be justified.
    How does the OP "leave herself open to the possibility of an accusation of wrongdoing by the other nurse involved"? I am not following that argument. The OP wasn't even in the building at the time. What, exactly, are you proposing that she can be accused of?

    The omnicell example presented here doesn't hold water. With omnicell discrepancies, I am assuming that you are saying that there are medications MISSING from the omnicell that you need to report. In the OP's instance, there were too many meds left in the box. It's not the same thing. I also strongly suspect that you are talking about missing narcotics (I haven't ever worked in a facility that keeps track of discrepancies on the count of non-narcotic medications - there are just too many), which also is a completely different scenario.

  • Sep 16 '10

    I am not a mean nurse, nore do I have temper issues. I am just applauded that someone would report something they HAD NO KNOWLEDGE of. YOU can suspect somone untill cows come home, but you cannot report someone unless you know for that they are committing fraud. You suspicions may be unfounded, but yet innocent person may get into trouble. What is someone( DON) asks her about it, and she panics and gives a wrong answer?? ALL your fault.

    I still say what you did was wrong and had no merit


  • Sep 16 '10

    i would have not reported it. what if she borrowed it from another patient or if she got it from the pyxis? i know we are not supposed to borrow but for pepcid i "think" i will if i cannot find the one for the patient and replace it back afterwards. just my 2cents.

  • Sep 11 '10

    Congrats! I know you excited!

  • Sep 10 '10

    Yes, let's all announce things that could have us fired and get our licenses taken away. On the internet!

    Sorry, I think participating in this thread is not the wisest of choices.

  • Sep 8 '10

    Nursing sexy? Dates with McDreamy? Bugger - I'm working in the wrong hospital!

    Seriously though - this sounds like its going to be a major step backwards for the profession. How can people take us seriously if we're going to be portrayed like this?

    I'd like to hope that no respectable nurse would even bother applying, so the show never takes off. But alas, there is always someone looking for the limelight and their 15 minutes of fame <sigh>

  • Aug 29 '10

    I think taking the high road and remaining professional is always best. After first party communication, deal with your supervisor and get out of the loop.---Bug

  • Aug 29 '10

    Sometimes trying to talk it out with bullies doesn't work. There are those bullies who are going to bully until the day they die.

    I work evenings, and we have 2 bullies on the dayshift, when they get together they talk about everyone else. They think no one else works but them.

    Another nurse on days, who actually started out on evenings then went to days... got into it with one of these bullies. The bully threatened to slap her and told her that she if fell outside that door onto that concrete sidewalk she wouldn't stoop to help her up. The other nurse said she knew that she [the bully] wouldn't help her, and that she [the bully] has hated her since the first day she came to work there. The nurse being bullied has recently come back to the evening shift. And she is a joy to work with. I don't understand how anyone could hate her. We don't have any fussing and fighting on evenings.....I thank God that right now we have a wonderful crew to work with on pm's. But the bullies remain on the dayshift and some of their bullying does spill over onto evenings, because they like to talk about everyone.

    I'm glad I am as far from it as I can get right now.