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    We used to have a tele tech and it was wonderful, someone who could devote themselves to the monitors so the nurses could focus on the patients. Then to save a buck and get more CNA's the tech position was eliminated and lots of tele banks with loud alarms were installed at the nurses station and throughout the halls. That just added to the stress level and it is simply impossible to watch the alarms while you are in patients rooms, for instance. So now we have phone alarms and we are constantly subjected to buzzing and blaring non-stop duplicate alarms and the worst part is most of them probably 90% are false alarms! Try talking to a Dr on the phone while the alarms keep blaring in. Ridiculous! The alarms are one of the main reasons I refuse to work extra!

    When I worked on a vent unit the vent alarms were actually legitimate and warned of problems not false as the tele alarms. But most of the tele alarms are just useless noise distracting and frustrating. If hospitals really cared about safety they would bring back the tele techs!

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    Quote from nightlightnurseaide
    In the patient sense i feel like this is true. If the patient is very difficult, the nurse will do whatever for the patient just to keep them happy.
    Ha, no it only confirms my motto people are impossible to please. In that situation I will do the bare minimum and avoid the patient as much as possible. They would actually get less help from me than if they had been pleasant!

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    Quote from TriciaJ
    I couldn't have said this better. I have no problems extending a helping hand when someone is having a problem but I don't cultivate relationships with people who are chronically needy. I certainly would not tolerate the behaviour described by the OP. That is definitely not a friend. It blows me away that someone who made it to the age of 70 and spent her life "giving at the office" would need to keep someone like this around.

    I do believe people put up with a lot of crap because for some reason it makes them feel good about themselves. It's a form of virtue-signalling. "See what a good person I am to be there for...(insert abusive spouse, spoiled children, manipulative friends, etc.)? Some people need someone to feel superior to which is the payoff for tolerating bad behaviour.
    That's an interesting take on motives, but I would guess it has more to do with desperation, low self esteem, wanting to be loved and being willing to put up with just about anything to be with someone and feel "loved", with fear thrown in if the person is violent or physically abusive. I myself do get frustrated with women who stay in physically abusive relationships. I once had a coworker whose husband was threatening to come to work with a gun and shoot everyone. I was pissed off that her choice in mates was putting the rest of us in danger! Luckily they divorced without incident and nothing happened. But all too often that isn't the case and it's then in the news the man had gone on a shooting rampage and killed multiple people.

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    brownbook likes this.

    Working as a CNA doesn't bother me and working nights I'm already doing those duties as well as my nursing duties so this would be a break from the responsibility of being the nurse. In that sense it is much less stressful like an IV nurse, stat nurse or admit-discharge nurse. Sure if you noticed a problem as a nurse just let the patient's nurse know. I worked as a stat nurse on light duty and it was very refreshing, no stress, no responsibility, you always got your lunch break. I would have loved that job, but it was only given to nurses on workers comp. Once upon a time we had a few resource nurses but those jobs were eliminated to save a buck. Those were the good old days! Now they say nurses aren't supposed to work as CNA's or sitters as we cost too much, but it still happens all the time anyway.

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    mharzi and TriciaJ like this.

    Yes I've witnessed a lot of nurses are enablers and I've seen them get taken advantage, some by boyfriends or spouses, others by grown children. I see nurses hook up with guys who refuse to work and then take care of them. I can't for the life of me imagine why anybody would work as hard as we do in nursing and then let some guy lay around living the good life. Oh hell no, it is why I'm totally fine being single. I see the choices of coworkers and think I'd never put up with that ****! It's one thing if they got laid off or were disabled, but to be able bodied and perfectly fine not working I just don't get it.

    As to children, part of it is probably not teaching their kids independence and financial responsibility. I can understand helping your kids out as they are your flesh and blood, but you need to help them be independent as you aren't always going to be there and probably can't afford it anyway. This brings up the larger matter that many nurses like the general public are clueless about money and personal finance and make all sorts of expensive mistakes. We work too hard to not make the most of our money!

    It's a shame that personal finance isn't being taught in school, but anyone can learn the basics if they simply take the time to read some books and money articles on the internet and even some credit unions teach the financial basics including how to buy a house. I've mentioned a few books before like Personal Finance for Dummies by Eric Tyson, Deal with your Debt and Your Credit Score by Liz Weston, and Smart Women Finish Rich by David Bach. Financial guru's such as Suze Orman and Dave Ramsey also have books. With the amount of info available today with the internet, there is really no reason for anyone to lack financial savvy. If you don't make the effort to learn you will find yourself taken advantage of by banks and credit card companies and overpaying for their services. They prefer it that way so they can make record profits thru fees and then reward themselves with bonuses!

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    alwayslookingnp, JKL33, and TriciaJ like this.

    Quote from NewRN24
    The charge nurse came to me after the PCA complained and initially I was surprised because I did recognize that perhaps I may have been "mean." She told me it was better I apologize and I did. I also explained to the PCA why I was stressed. When I spoke with my charge nurse I explained the symptoms and that I did not know I hurt her feelings or was maybe to harsh. I will post an update after speaking with my manager.
    Personally from my own experience I feel the PCA is being manipulative and was insubordinate to you and then tried to turn it around and blame you for her own behavior by complaining about you. I don't have any advice to you, but wish you luck and watch your back!

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    NewRN'16 likes this.

    Quote from Kooky Korky
    One thing you can do - next time someone is mean to you, call her on it. I assume it's a female, although there are plenty of dirty dog male nurses.

    Just say to the person "You must be one of the wrold's most miserable persons. You are so filled with anger and jealousy that it's bubbling out of your pores. You are mean and rude and nasty and I guess that comes from being terribly hurt and disappointed in life. I am not the cause of your pain, Lulu, but I forgive you for being so cruel to me, and will pray for you. I would like to help you if there's a way I can. Let me know." It might help break the ice and you'll become friends for life.
    You made me laugh, reminds me of the really funny sarcastic song I pray for you by Jaron. It will cheer you up if you have a bad day and a problem person.

    Some of the lyrics ... I pray your breaks go out running down a hill, I pray a flower pot falls from a window sill and knocks you in the head like I'd like to, I pray your birthday comes and nobody calls, I pray you're flying high when your engine stalls, I pray all your dreams never come true. Just know wherever you are honey I pray for you...

    I just listened to it now on youtube and I feel great, so much better. Check it out I highly recommend it! LOL

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    NewRN'16 and macawake like this.

    Not well. I'm dealing with a few CNA's in a clique that have decided they don't like me and go out of their way to be rude, lazy and unhelpful, omit charting and then claim they forgot but I think it is passive agressive though I can't prove it. And run to the supervisor over petty complaints trying to get me in trouble and then are even more upset when they don't get the reaction they hoped for! Personally I'm so sick of them, they are grown adults but act like children having temper tantrums! They refuse assignments, threaten to go home if they don't get their way and this is allowed with no consequences. For the life of me I don't know why. All I can do is shake my head, ignore them, do my job and avoid them as much as possible. I've learned to say very little to them period. Frankly I'd rather work without CNA's than put up with all this crap. I've been told I'm not the only one they do this time, but it feels very personal and it pisses me off. I want to tell them to grow up and do their jobs and act like adults, but bite my tongue as that would ignite nightmare number three! So glad I'm off and don't have to deal with them for a few days. I remind myself they are not my friends, I just merely have to tolerate them to get thru the night!

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    Quote from avalanche538
    Politics is when you strive to be a leader and join administration because you believe in nursing but then you get the backlash from the union members against you for the smallest reason and then upper management that sees you as the as amin. have no union protection uses you as the sacrificial lamb to calm the union .....as they carry on with their plans without your consent. What do you have to say about this
    In my experience management jobs may pay well and have a nice yearly bonus thrown in, but there is usually a lack of job security. I have lived thru 2 CNO's being walked out of the building by security and watched many more admin staff fired and let go due to downsizing and being on the losing side of politics. Staff nursing is a much more stable job, at least where I work, you really have to screw up bad to lose your job!

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    Quote from DrNalepa
    Again, I would say talk to the supervisor and tell of the situation. If it is one of their doctors and they love the man then you may be out of luck. Being myself and comfortable in skin, I would tell the nurses, secretaries, etc. to act their age and don't let their spouses or significant other find out about their actions. That may end it. (for you or their actions). Some people seek attention, and if it is from a doctor, he/she being the "boss" they may feel empowered because he/she pays attention to them. Sometimes you have to just overlook situations that make you uncomfortable and do the best job you can. Listen, relearn your skills and move on.
    I wouldn't run to the supervisor, you will just find a target on your back. Just ignore them, if they've been doing this for years you're not going to be the one to stop them from their antics.

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    Kitiger likes this.

    I don't go out, I bring my breakfast and lunch everyday, I cook at home. I put money into my 401k but I have huge medical expenses so please don't judge someone when you have NO IDEA what someone goes through. I am not whining, I am stating a fact! and I don't expect anybody to rescue me.[/QUOTE]

    Yes the cost of healthcare is fast becoming like the cost of LTC unaffordable for many! I advise choosing a high deductible health insurance and then maxing out your HSA. Usually the employer will give some money toward the HSA. It is ideal for younger workers who don't have health problems as you can save for the future when you will most likely need health, dental or vision care, not to mention if you plan to have children.

    It is not quite so ideal for people with chronic health problems, but at least you don't have to guestimate how much to set aside as you would with an FSA and worry about losing the unspent money at the end of the year. It is not easy to get prescriptions as you have to pay full price till you reach your deductible, but you can work around by choosing $4 prescriptions at Walmart and other places. Check out costco for expensive meds as they have a fair, flat fixed rate mark up on all their meds, you don't even have to be a member. I relunctantly switched to a high deductible as I was already getting $4 prescriptions at Walmart since my copays were $10 plus with regular insurance. I don't waste money getting glasses I don't need just to use up the FSA at the end of the year. I've saved around $10,000 so far while still using my HSA to pay ongoing health expenses.

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    adyson97, Davey Do, and brownbook like this.

    Sounds like you are having a stress response related to frustration with the patient population. Some patients are more difficult to care for and can wear you down. They probably are just as frustrated and feel helpless to improve their health and struggle with several chronic diseases. CHF is particularly difficult to treat and stabilize long term even when the patients take all their meds and is further complicated by renal failure. It can be disheartening to realize many times we can't cure disease only treat the symptoms and there will inevitably continue to be flareups and further declines for some patients especially those with CHF, CRF and diabetes. Just take it day by day and do your best. Forgive yourself for your anger. Think how you would want to be treated or how you would treat a loved one. Try to find ways to de-stress such as taking a vacation, getting enough sleep, taking a walk, spending time with family, friends, pets or pursuing a hobby on your off time. Consider asking for a break from a difficult patient if you need to.

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    kalycat, llg, NurseBlaq, and 4 others like this.

    Quote from CanadianAbroad
    Attibuting this nurse's behavior due to a bad is why we have bullying in nursing, as we condone this behavior. Stop making excuses to why this nurse treated this student like crap. Every single one of you have been in the place of the student once, yet act as if you have forgotten this. Ignoring a student is passive aggressive behavior. Screaming at the student is inappropriate. Perhaps the "not smiling reprimand" is a key sign to a major potential problem; burn out is more than likely occurring, but that does not mean it is okay to behave like this.
    The nurse lost her temper and took it out on the OP one time that is not bullying. What she did was wrong, but she is human and I think we all know how stressful nursing can be and dealing with a difficult, unhappy complaining patient doesn't help matters. I think the majority of us have empathy for the nurse who had an unprofessional outburst because we can relate to feeling stressed and overwhelmed. No one is condoning her behavior. Obviously if this is a pattern than she needs to get some help whether therapy and or meds.

    As to we all have experienced this as a student I have to say no I did not. I had a wonderful, calm, kind clinical instructor and I could see the nurses I worked with were very busy. I have been a victim of a bully someone who targets you personally, trying to drive you away and turn everyone against you. This is not what happened to the OP.

    Bad behavior is rampant in nursing, but mostly from the patients and their family members toward staff. Sometimes due to altered mental status and dementia other times due to psyche issues or just mean, nasty people. Regardless you still have to find a way to work and deal with it, you can't just refuse to take care of a patient. I'd say the majority of responses on here are trying to point out this reality to help the OP reframe what happened, let it go and be prepared for what nursing entails, not to give the offending nurse a free pass.

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    hotpeppa, llg, Daisy4RN, and 5 others like this.

    Quote from FutureNurse0201
    DEU is a hospital (or a certain floor) where nurses get extra money to have students and teach them.
    No I highly doubt nurses get more money for teaching students. It is rare to even get a differential when precepting or mentoring new grad nurses to the unit! You may have paid alot of money for tuition to go to school but it is your clinical instructor who is paid to teach you and most likely by the course itself as an adjunct which comes out to less than minimum wage.

    I don't like being yelled at either, but you come across as very entitled and judgemental and it won't suit you as a new nurse. My advice is let it go, accept this nurse is human, lost her temper and you were the closest target. If she truly has a pattern of bad behavior it is up to her manager to deal with and your instructor should avoid giving her students. We have many students from many different colleges that rotate thru our unit and not every nurse precepts them. So this could have all been avoided by not assigning her students in the first place, just my opinion.

    When you are a nurse you will find yourself in similar situations where someone either coworker or patient or family member is angry, agitated and you will have to deal with it, try to calm them, appease them and still carry out all your duties of the day. Maybe then you will have a little more empathy after facing impossible situations.

    I agree she was rude and wrong, but you will encounter these types of situations at work and in real life and have to learn not to let it interfere with your ability to do your job. You can be assertive and speak up for yourself and then let it go. Also you need to learn how to de-escalate situations in nursing for your own sanity and safety as some patients can become violent.

    I know this was not your situation, but it is the reality of nursing. Holding grudges and wanting revenge by her being fired is not the answer. You will encounter coworkers and patients you probably won't always like, but you will still have to deal with it and work with them. Empathy and acceptance will go a long way and most importantly don't take things personally as you appear to have done. I'm sure her outburst wasn't personal as she doesn't even know you.

    Keep this realization that nursing is a stressful job when dealing with difficult patients or coworkers. Remember it's about them not you and think how can I calm the waters to get thru the day, that's my best advice to you. I can tell your young and idealistic and want to be the best nurse and coworker you can, but I think you would challenge her to duel if this was a few centuries back (tongue in cheek). I hope for your own sake you can let it go and make sure your instructor doesn't assign you to her again. If nothing else see her as an example of who you don't want to be when you are a nurse and be the role model you want for your own students in the future. Good luck to you.

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    kalycat, hotpeppa, Daisy4RN, and 3 others like this.

    Quote from FutureNurse0201
    I never said it wasn't my fault, I just said her words and behavior affected me, it affected my motivation for the day (sorry, i am human and don't have a thick skin). I should know better than let it affect me, but... it did. Thanks god, nothing happened (except for maybe a bad evaluation).

    And she did get reprimanded but honestly, it was the friendliest reprimand i have ever heard. the charge nurse is very nice and she just told her what medical director mentioned. The mean nurse used that patient as an excuse and then they laughed about something (btw patient complained mostly about the physicians care, because two doctors told her two different diagnosis (patient is aphasic so she probably misunderstood, and she really never talked to the head of the hospital ).
    Well you are going to have to develop a thick skin to survive in nursing as you will be dealing with unhappy patients who are at times rude and disrespectful. The nurse lost her cool and took it out on you. I agree that is wrong, but what did you want her to be fired? Also I hate this crap about smiling, do you think a man would ever be told to smile more! That is so sexist and demeaning and disrespectful!

    Once you become a nurse you will have plenty of time to deal with unhappy people, agitated, only sometimes of sound mind and then you can show everybody how it's done while smiling and asking if they want tea or coffee. lol


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