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I'm hoping some experienced med surg nurses will respond to this. I've repeatedly read on these boards that med surg is the way to go for new grads for at least a year or two before you move into a specialty area. My last clinical instructor told our group that this is foolishness, and that we should apply to hospitals that offer extended preceptorship into a specialty area if we feel pretty certain that that's where we want to be. She said that although you get to see a little of everything on a med surg floor, in her experience the workload and pt ratios on med surg units tend to be more overwhelming than everywhere else and, in her opinion, this isn't the best learning environment for a new grad who's trying to get his/her feet wet. She feels that med-surg nursing isn't necessarily 'beginners turf' as so many people suggest, but that it is its own specialty area and that it can be extremely demanding, especially when it comes to time management. She also said that hospital recruiters who claim a 5:1 med surg ratio are lying, because the ratio is usually 6:1 or higher.

I worked for 6 months in a hospital, first as a tech then as an RN Intern in the ICU. I was sometimes floated to tele and med-surg and I confess I really hated working on the med-surg unit. They told me it would be great experience for me, but it was pretty awful. There were never enough nurses or aides to handle all the patients, and they seemed to always be asking already overburdened nurses to "take one more". Because I was working as an intern, my job was to assist 'as needed' giving priority to the most urgent patient needs as determined by the RNs. Of course, all the nurses would say their pts had urgent needs and they would always be paging me non-stop to come help them do stuff. I hardly had time to go to the bathroom, and even if I took a 15 minute break to eat a quick meal, they were paging me then, too. It was insane! I used to go home at the end of the day feeling like I'd been run over by a bus.

I was thinking of biting the bullet and doing straight med surg for at least 6 months as a new grad, but the experiences I had in the hospital made me realize that med surg is definitely not for me. The ICU and tele units were constantly busy, too, but it was a different kind of busy and definitely nothing like med surg.

Your opinions please...

Specializes in Cardiac.
Um, I'm generation X and I do know hard work..I worked full-time while in nursing school and took call on weekends. It could be said about the older generation that perhaps they didn't question authority enough and that is why hospitals got away with treating nurses like garbage for so long....Many med-surg units are understaffed not because there are not enough nurses, but because the nurse manager and administration are trying to cut costs. At one of the hospitals I worked for, the nurse manager got a nice fat bonus check at the end of the year for keeping staffing levels down. No, med-surg probably won't "kill" anyone, but if the person is not interested in that area why work there? It is their career and their life. Take advantage of the fact that hospitals are willing to take new grads into specialties. I have found that many of the older nurses and instructors are bitter about the fact that we no longer have to suffer an area we hate.Also,many of us fledgling nurses are not putting up with the "hazing" that used to pass for orientation..Change is a positive thing!

Amen!!!

Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.

IMO, go where your heart tells you (or conversely, don't go where your heart is telling you not to go). Life is too short, and the job is too demanding, to go to a unit that you hate. You will become bitter and burnt out, and your patients will suffer. Why would anyone CHOOSE to go to a unit they hate and dread going to work every day? I certainly wouldn't. I love my job and I look forward (usually) to going into work. It wouldn't be that way if I was "doing my time" in med/surg, and I can't imagine how miserable that would make me, doing a job I hate.

Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
Generation X is an intaneous generation having been raised on fast cars, jet planes, fast food etc. They haven't had to walk anywhere, take the slow train, or cook. They don't know hard work.

Right, and you had to walk 5 miles to and from school every day. Uphill both ways.

Sorry, but there are lazy people in EVERY generation. It's unfair and inaccurate to pin it on one demographic.

Specializes in OR.

I have changed the status quo at least at my nursing school...I am very mouthy and hard to ignore. And others have made positive changes as well..I have learned that one has to take responsibility for his/her own career and be proactive....Becoming bitter and jaded doesn't do the nurse any good and it doesn't do the patients any good...I have known more nurses that claim they would like to go to a different dept. but are afraid of losing seniority, vacation time etc. I'm of the opinion that 5 weeks of vacation is all well and good, but if you are miserable the rest of the time because you hate your job, it's just silly. Unfortunately, some people would just rather complain than actually do anything. Change happens everyday and it's because of the people who refuse to accept that "it's always been that way".

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