MEAC program prior to CNM?

**LibraSunCNM, BSN, MSN, CNM** · Apr 7, 2013

Are you applying to a nursing program or for a master's program in midwifery? I'm sure your history as a CPM won't HURT your applications for anything, they just might not be recognized/understood by the average nursing school admissions office. But yes, for CNM programs, I'm sure they would know what it was and it would probably be helpful for your application. Even if most CNM jobs are in hospitals and therefore very different from working as a CPM, you still have a lot of birth experiences!

queenanneslace, ADN, MSN, APRN, CNM · Apr 7, 2013

I'm an RN (ADN) with a Bachelor's degree in another field.

I'm applying to Master's programs in Midwifery.

Just revealing some of my insecurity, here. I recognize that MEAC programs are not regionally-accredited, so none of my coursework can be counted... as anything.... really. Except experience. Which I do have.

It really can't hurt. You're right.

Trying to figure out how CNM programs view those applicants who come from a direct-entery/CPM background. I've heard mixed opinions on whether that is viewed favorably or not. Though I do know of quite a few CNMs who were CPMs prior - and they seemed to be able to get in without the L&D nursing requirement. One would think the OOH midwifery experience would count just like L&D/OB experience does.

**LibraSunCNM, BSN, MSN, CNM** · Apr 7, 2013

It all depends on the programs you're applying to. Some program directors would welcome someone with so much OOH birth experience (my program director used to be a CPM herself and then went on to become a CM, and is now a CNM). Others might think it less important. I doubt any directors would actually think it was detrimental, and if they did I wouldn't want to be in their program! L&D nursing is definitely not a requirement in all programs, and some programs don't require any nursing experience at all. I think you should be fine.

trauerweidchen · Apr 7, 2013

Taking a different tactic--if you can't be honest about your background (and use it as applicable knowledge/history to help strengthen your application), is that CNM program going to be a good fit for you? I just turned down my spot in a MEAC-accredited program and will be applying to nursing programs and possibly direct-entry graduate programs (accelerated RN to MSN/DNP programs with a non-nursing BA), and I would imagine my experience with out of hospital birth will help my midwifery application, as long as it is presented thoughtfully and doesn't come off as judgmental. It will depend on the program of course, but I would think that it can be presented in a positive light, especially if you don't get mired down in the politics.

phoenixnim · Apr 10, 2013

I agree with the previous post about if it is a school that would look unfavorably on your OOH birth experience... is that really where you want to be?

In the few grad schools I've checked out so far, most seem very open and happy for any relevant experience, including doula expereince, so I would think DEM or CPM experience would be viewed as stronger experience than just doula work. ;-) :-)

Personally, I would include it.

queenanneslace, ADN, MSN, APRN, CNM · Apr 16, 2013

Thanks - all your feedback makes sense. Of course, it just presents a picture of my past and experience with childbirth. I know it doesn't count toward graduate credits, but it does show familiarity with the profession - and knowledge of what it takes to work as a midwife.

I think I'm still recovering from nursing school. My instructors were completely bewildered at how I knew so much about childbirth... they couldn't figure it out and decided I was a "doula". Midwives (CNMs and CPMs) are rare species in certain areas.

mamagui · Jul 26, 2013

Your experience would help you immensely if you choose to go to Frontier, as you would not need experience working as an RN for a year before you apply :) Have you chosen a school yet?