Published May 20, 2017
Isacam
3 Posts
I just finished my 54 hr pharmacology class
but now my supervisors are refusing to sign
My paperwork of proof of experience that is need to qualify for this method... I work at a hospital and apparently the hospital does not keep any records of the floors we float to or the patients we work with.. being that the form is asking for exact dates they are unwilling to fill out the form...
Sour Lemon
5,016 Posts
I just finished my 54 hr pharmacology class but now my supervisors are refusing to sign My paperwork of proof of experience that is need to qualify for this method... I work at a hospital and apparently the hospital does not keep any records of the floors we float to or the patients we work with.. being that the form is asking for exact dates they are unwilling to fill out the form...
Well, if they don't have it, they don't have it. It might have been a good idea to arrange something in advance. I doubt there's any hospital that keeps detailed float records for an extended length of time. They're usually kept just long enough to address immediate (within a few days) concerns and to make sure people take turns floating in a fair way.
roser13, ASN, RN
6,504 Posts
I don't understand the connection between your post's title and the content.
JustBeachyNurse, LPN
13,957 Posts
I finished the 54 hr pharmacology class and now I'm in the process of getting my paper work filled out ... but I have hit a road block now..my supervisors from the hospital I have worked at for 16 years so not want to fill out my work experience for because the hospital has no way of varifying the floors I have floated to or the patients I have worked with.. The only paper I can get is from Human Resources which is proff of employment .Not sure this helps at all .....
The only paper I can get is from Human Resources which is proff of employment .
Not sure this helps at all .....
If they cannot verify specified experience then you won't be eligible
She has hit multiple forums but is attempting method 3 to challenge LVN licensing in CA as a CNA which requires specific experience in units from pediatrics, maternity, med/surg, psych doing specific skills over a total of 60 months. She's upset her employer/managers won't sign off on what cannot be verified as there is no record of the OP working the minimum time in each unit over 5 years as it's not tracked (extremely few attempt to challenge lvn licensing without attending school & graduating. However it's ironic that CA permits this but denies consideration to Excelsior graduates)
HomeApplicantsMethod 3 Method 3Qualification Based on Equivalent Education and/or Experience, section 2873 of the Vocational Nursing Practice Act and section 2516(b) of the California Code of RegulationsOverviewQualifying for the licensure examination based on prior education and experience, often referred to as "the equivalency method", requires the applicant to provide documentation of a minimum of 51 months of paid general duty inpatient bedside nursing experience in a clinical facility and completion of a 54-theory-hour pharmacology course. If the applicant has successfully completed additional formal nursing education, that education may be substituted for some of the required bedside nursing experience.The equivalency method permits unlicensed individuals who have had extensive inpatient bedside nursing care experience, plus a limited amount of formal education, to demonstrate that they have acquired sufficient basic nursing knowledge to be eligible for the licensure examination.Please note that achieving licensure via the equivalency method may limit the licensee's ability to be hired as a licensed vocational nurse or psychiatric technician. No other state accepts licensees who have been licensed via this method. In addition to licensure, some health care facilities within California require that their potential employees be graduates of approved nursing or psychiatric technician programs. Such facilities will not hire licensees who have achieved licensure via the equivalency method. If you have questions about licensure in another state, please contact that state's board of nursing. If you have questions about the hiring practice of a particular health care facility in California, please contact that facility.ExperiencePursuant to the California Code of Regulations section 2516(b), the 51 months of paid general duty inpatient bedside nursing experience must include a minimum of each of the following:48 months medical/surgical nursing;6 weeks maternity or genitourinary nursing;6 weeks pediatric nursing.The majority of the paid bedside nursing experience must have occurred in a inpatient clinical facility providing the types of patient care that will prepare the applicant for the content topics covered in the licensure examination. It is required that all experience must have occurred within the past ten years, with half of the required experience occurring in the past five years. The experience must have been recent enough that the applicant is knowledgeable regarding current types of patient care equipment, policies and procedures.When calculating work experience, the applicant can substitute up to a maximum of eight months of the required medical-surgical clinical experience with experience obtained outside of the acute care setting; however, a minimum of 40 months of medical-surgical experience must have occurred in an acute care facility. Paid work experience in the following areas will be applicable toward the eight months that can be substituted for acute medical-surgical experience:Communicable Disease NursingPublic Health NursingOccupational Health NursingOffice Nursing (M.D.)Psychiatric NursingOperating Room NursingPrivate Duty Nursing (Performed in acute care facilities only)Emergency Room NursingOut Patient ClinicPost Anesthesia Recovery NursingHemodialysis NursingRehabilitation NursingGerontological NursingEmergency Medical Technician Service[Please note: The following types of work experience will not be accepted in this category; home health aide, in-home care provider, in-home hospice provider, board and care provider, residential care provider, unit secretary, ward clerk, transport aide, phlebotomist, monitor technician, field paramedic. This list is not all-inclusive, but is offered for clarification purposes.]In the application packet, an Employment Verification form is provided. The applicant must provide a copy of this form to all employers. On the verification form, all paid bedside nursing experience must be verified by the applicant's employer(s) indicating specific dates of employment and the number of hours worked in each area. The employment verification form must be mailed directly to the Board by the employer in an official business envelope.The verification of experience must also include certification from the Director or Supervisor (must be a registered nurse) that the applicant has satisfactorily demonstrated the following knowledge and skills:A. Basic Bedside NursingAmbulation techniquesBedmakingUrinary Catheter careCollection of specimensDiabetic testingAdministration of a cleansing enemaFeeding patientHot and cold applicationsIntake and OutputPersonal hygiene and comfort measuresPositioning and transferRange of motionSkin careVital signsCommunication skills, both verbal and written, including communication with patients who have psychological disordersB. Infection control procedures (may be demonstrated in classroom, lab, and/or patient care settings.)AsepsisTechniques for strict, contact, respiratory, enteric, tuberculosis, drainage, universal and immunosuppressed patient isolation.
HomeApplicantsMethod 3
Method 3
Qualification Based on Equivalent Education and/or Experience, section 2873 of the Vocational Nursing Practice Act and section 2516(b) of the California Code of Regulations
Overview
Qualifying for the licensure examination based on prior education and experience, often referred to as "the equivalency method", requires the applicant to provide documentation of a minimum of 51 months of paid general duty inpatient bedside nursing experience in a clinical facility and completion of a 54-theory-hour pharmacology course. If the applicant has successfully completed additional formal nursing education, that education may be substituted for some of the required bedside nursing experience.
The equivalency method permits unlicensed individuals who have had extensive inpatient bedside nursing care experience, plus a limited amount of formal education, to demonstrate that they have acquired sufficient basic nursing knowledge to be eligible for the licensure examination.
Please note that achieving licensure via the equivalency method may limit the licensee's ability to be hired as a licensed vocational nurse or psychiatric technician. No other state accepts licensees who have been licensed via this method. In addition to licensure, some health care facilities within California require that their potential employees be graduates of approved nursing or psychiatric technician programs. Such facilities will not hire licensees who have achieved licensure via the equivalency method. If you have questions about licensure in another state, please contact that state's board of nursing. If you have questions about the hiring practice of a particular health care facility in California, please contact that facility.
Experience
Pursuant to the California Code of Regulations section 2516(b), the 51 months of paid general duty inpatient bedside nursing experience must include a minimum of each of the following:
48 months medical/surgical nursing;
6 weeks maternity or genitourinary nursing;
6 weeks pediatric nursing.
The majority of the paid bedside nursing experience must have occurred in a inpatient clinical facility providing the types of patient care that will prepare the applicant for the content topics covered in the licensure examination. It is required that all experience must have occurred within the past ten years, with half of the required experience occurring in the past five years. The experience must have been recent enough that the applicant is knowledgeable regarding current types of patient care equipment, policies and procedures.
When calculating work experience, the applicant can substitute up to a maximum of eight months of the required medical-surgical clinical experience with experience obtained outside of the acute care setting; however, a minimum of 40 months of medical-surgical experience must have occurred in an acute care facility. Paid work experience in the following areas will be applicable toward the eight months that can be substituted for acute medical-surgical experience:
Communicable Disease Nursing
Public Health Nursing
Occupational Health Nursing
Office Nursing (M.D.)
Psychiatric Nursing
Operating Room Nursing
Private Duty Nursing (Performed in acute care facilities only)
Emergency Room Nursing
Out Patient Clinic
Post Anesthesia Recovery Nursing
Hemodialysis Nursing
Rehabilitation Nursing
Gerontological Nursing
Emergency Medical Technician Service
[Please note: The following types of work experience will not be accepted in this category; home health aide, in-home care provider, in-home hospice provider, board and care provider, residential care provider, unit secretary, ward clerk, transport aide, phlebotomist, monitor technician, field paramedic. This list is not all-inclusive, but is offered for clarification purposes.]
In the application packet, an Employment Verification form is provided. The applicant must provide a copy of this form to all employers. On the verification form, all paid bedside nursing experience must be verified by the applicant's employer(s) indicating specific dates of employment and the number of hours worked in each area. The employment verification form must be mailed directly to the Board by the employer in an official business envelope.
The verification of experience must also include certification from the Director or Supervisor (must be a registered nurse) that the applicant has satisfactorily demonstrated the following knowledge and skills:
A. Basic Bedside Nursing
Ambulation techniques
Bedmaking
Urinary Catheter care
Collection of specimens
Diabetic testing
Administration of a cleansing enema
Feeding patient
Hot and cold applications
Intake and Output
Personal hygiene and comfort measures
Positioning and transfer
Range of motion
Skin care
Vital signs
Communication skills, both verbal and written, including communication with patients who have psychological disorders
B. Infection control procedures (may be demonstrated in classroom, lab, and/or patient care settings.)
Asepsis
Techniques for strict, contact, respiratory, enteric, tuberculosis, drainage, universal and immunosuppressed patient isolation.
Method 3: Qualification Based on Equivalent Education and/or Experience - Board of Vocational Nursing & Psychiatric Technicians
If your employer can't verify you are out of luck
She has hit multiple forums but is attempting method 3 to challenge LVN licensing in CA as a CNA which requires specific experience in units from pediatrics, maternity, med/surg, psych doing specific skills over a total of 60 months. She's upset her employer/managers won't sign off on what cannot be verified as there is no record of the OP working the minimum time in each unit over 5 years as it's not tracked (extremely few attempt to challenge lvn licensing without attending school & graduating. However it's ironic that CA permits this but denies consideration to Excelsior graduates) Method 3: Qualification Based on Equivalent Education and/or Experience - Board of Vocational Nursing & Psychiatric TechniciansIf your employer can't verify you are out of luck
Thank you! I was very confused.