Loma Linda University CRNA DNP 2021

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I guess I will start a new thread for LLU's 2021 Fall CRNA Program. 

Anyone on here applying? The deadline is only a few weeks away.  

I am still waiting for my references to come through. 

Specializes in ICU.

Has anyone heard back for an interview? Or already completed the interview?

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Specializes in CCRN-CMC, RRT-ACCS, RPFT.

Nothing yet. I guess no news is better than bad news? 

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Specializes in CVICU.
On 11/30/2020 at 5:34 PM, ProgressiveThinking said:

Do yourselves a favor and go to Kaiser, Texas Wesleyan, or USC if you're looking at California schools.

Please elaborate on this. Your title (CRNA) carries lots of weight, so please enlighten us more regarding why you think we should not consider LLU. Do you have first-hand interaction with LLU students? Did you graduate from LLU or had passed through LLU at a time?

Please speak to your why. Thanks 

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Specializes in CCRN-CMC, RRT-ACCS, RPFT.
13 hours ago, acalfos said:

Please elaborate on this. Your title (CRNA) carries lots of weight, so please enlighten us more regarding why you think we should not consider LLU. Do you have first-hand interaction with LLU students? Did you graduate from LLU or had passed through LLU at a time?

Please speak to your why. Thanks 

Don’t bother. I think he is just trolling. Hasn’t replied back to any of us after making that claim. 

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
21 minutes ago, ExceptionRN said:

Don’t bother. I think he is just trolling. Hasn’t replied back to any of us after making that claim. 

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
14 hours ago, acalfos said:

Please elaborate on this. Your title (CRNA) carries lots of weight, so please enlighten us more regarding why you think we should not consider LLU. Do you have first-hand interaction with LLU students? Did you graduate from LLU or had passed through LLU at a time?

Please speak to your why. Thanks 

Well, I've rotated through LLU, and I have to say that it was the worst rotation I had. VERY INCREDIBLY anti-CRNA and extremely medically directed. The CRNAs aren't even allowed to push induction drugs, place CVLs or A-lines at the facility. I repeat, at their own facility. The anesthesia group is fairly anti-CRNA, and it was vocalized when I rotated through. The SRNAs I worked with varied in quality, with most being okay. The majority of the good experience they receive comes from their out-rotations, namely ARMC which is TWUs primary California clinical site (hence the suggestion for TWU).

I would rank programs as followed:

1) Kaiser (only downside is they have too many rotations so as soon as they get their bearings at a place it's onto the next rotation), but they consistently produce solid graduates.

2)TWU (ARMC is hands down the greatest site for SRNAs in SoCal, but you get worked long hours like staff for free, but come out prepared. Their students were the strongest clinically-LLU, Kaiser and USC rotate here).

3) and 4) LLU and USC come in at a tie. USC rotates to sites where there are no CRNAs and are forced to follow MDAs all day who don't let them do anything (anesthesia can be political like that), and for some, it really showed. LLU's main downside is that it's affiliated with a medical center with an anesthesia residency that has anti-CRNA sentiments. Residents obviously get preference for big cases, and as a SRNA you won't even be pushing induction drugs. It was a fairly demeaning rotation honestly. One of the MDs told me that CRNAs are basically technicians who don't do any real thinking. CRNAs even got pulled out of one of their outpatient centers so that residents could get more experience that was more similar to private practice. ALSO, for the cost and the length of the program, you might as well go to medical school. FWIW though LLU does have a pretty solid heart rotation up in NAPA, or at least they used to. If I wanted to be a CRNA and ABSOLUTELY HAD TO stay in the IE, I would go to LLU, but I would strongly consider making other options work. 

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Specializes in Anesthesia.

Oh yeah, and when I was there the anesthesia group was considering no longer allowing SRNAs to rotate through the main medical center's OR. With CRNAs no longer being able to rotate there or one of the other outpatient surgical sites, SRNAs were essentially limited to 1 of the outpatient sites for ALL of LLU. I hope this is no longer the case though, because for what you pay at LLU you would hope that the education would be top notch without any limitations. This isn't to say that if you go to LLU you won't become a good CRNA. By all means you can and there are some very solid providers that have graduated from the program, and some even practice independently. Just don't go to the LLU expecting to get great experience at LLUMC. It just ain't happening. Work hard and learn everything you can in your outrotations:-ARMC, VA, Navy, NAPA, Ohio (optional, but great). If they do allow you to rotate to the main OR (I did), be prepared to deal with people whose intensions are to make you feel second class as a SRNA.

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Specializes in CCRN-CMC, RRT-ACCS, RPFT.
On 12/19/2020 at 4:45 AM, ProgressiveThinking said:

Oh yeah, and when I was there the anesthesia group was considering no longer allowing SRNAs to rotate through the main medical center's OR. With CRNAs no longer being able to rotate there or one of the other outpatient surgical sites, SRNAs were essentially limited to 1 of the outpatient sites for ALL of LLU. I hope this is no longer the case though, because for what you pay at LLU you would hope that the education would be top notch without any limitations. This isn't to say that if you go to LLU you won't become a good CRNA. By all means you can and there are some very solid providers that have graduated from the program, and some even practice independently. Just don't go to the LLU expecting to get great experience at LLUMC. It just ain't happening. Work hard and learn everything you can in your outrotations:-ARMC, VA, Navy, NAPA, Ohio (optional, but great). If they do allow you to rotate to the main OR (I did), be prepared to deal with people whose intensions are to make you feel second class as a SRNA.

Thanks for your responses! Glad the trolling comment got your attention LOL 

I attending the virtual information sessions for LLU and the Director stated that we will complete the first 6 months of clinical rotations in the LLU OR so they can keep an eye on us. This might be new from previous cohorts?

I think as nurses, many of us definitely understand where you are coming from when you state that the MD's treat others like second class citizens. I definitely want a program where learning is encouraged and a lot of this political nonsense can be put aside.  

 

On 12/11/2020 at 2:14 PM, ICURN313 said:

Has anyone heard back for an interview? Or already completed the interview?

Almost Christmas and still no news.... I wonder if we will find out anything this year? 

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
1 hour ago, ExceptionRN said:

Thanks for your responses! Glad the trolling comment got your attention LOL 

I attending the virtual information sessions for LLU and the Director stated that we will complete the first 6 months of clinical rotations in the LLU OR so they can keep an eye on us. This might be new from previous cohorts?

I think as nurses, many of us definitely understand where you are coming from when you state that the MD's treat others like second class citizens. I definitely want a program where learning is encouraged and a lot of this political nonsense can be put aside.  

 

Almost Christmas and still no news.... I wonder if we will find out anything this year? 

I hope it's the Medical Center's OR, but likely it'll be the Heart and Surgical Hospital.

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Specializes in CCU.
1 hour ago, ExceptionRN said:

Thanks for your responses! Glad the trolling comment got your attention LOL 

I attending the virtual information sessions for LLU and the Director stated that we will complete the first 6 months of clinical rotations in the LLU OR so they can keep an eye on us. This might be new from previous cohorts?

I think as nurses, many of us definitely understand where you are coming from when you state that the MD's treat others like second class citizens. I definitely want a program where learning is encouraged and a lot of this political nonsense can be put aside.  

 

Almost Christmas and still no news.... I wonder if we will find out anything this year? 

I’m surprised it’s taking so long. From previous year’s threads it seems like priority candidates knew whether they had interviews by late November. I’m sure COVID is has something to do with this but this waiting is terrible! 

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Specializes in CCRN-CMC, RRT-ACCS, RPFT.
25 minutes ago, ProgressiveThinking said:

I hope it's the Medical Center's OR, but likely it'll be the Heart and Surgical Hospital.

I will make sure to ask that question if I ever get an interview 

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On 11/30/2020 at 5:34 PM, ProgressiveThinking said:

Do yourselves a favor and go to Kaiser, Texas Wesleyan, or USC if you're looking at California schools.

Well coming from a student and hearing from the alumni, it is true that it is MD directed at LLU and that’s the culture at the hospital. Fortunately for students, we start off at the medical center to get our “feet wet” and move to other clinical sites. I only hear good things about our clinical experience and no one ever had issues. I feel that the education is outstanding and we get to do most of the lectures at home. It is possible to also work part-time hours for the first year. TWU does rotate through Arrowhead and get great experience but I’d rather get a balance of experience and being in a good environment than being stuck there and getting worked for my whole rotation through school. That’s just me. 

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