Published Oct 6, 2005
gellybow
3 Posts
Hi everyone,
I'n on my last semester and be done this december 2005. i need help on my term paper regarding pronouncement of death by RNs on any settings. Currently, here on NJ, RN/LPN are already practising it on hospice, home health care, LTC but not in the hospital. This is a new bill that they would like to be imposed. I think RNs should be allowed to pronounce death in the hospital, but i need articles to prove it and i try researching everyday since sept. 30, i can't find a good paper to support my side. please help defend my term paper. thanks. marie
psalm, RN
1,263 Posts
...here in Michigan at our hospital, the nurse can pronounce if the doc isn't present and it must be verified by another RN. So, two RNs, and obviously, document no breaths, no pulse.
thank you so much jackie. you made me happy. So what i need to do now is to get Michigan law on pronoucing death to support my side, Am i right? i am not good in writing because English is my second language. since nursing 1 we always have term paper(10% of our grade). i thank god that i get good grades from my paper but this one is so hard. thank you again. take care. marie
Race Mom, ASN, RN
808 Posts
Did a search and came up with these. I don't know if they will help, and one is quite old, but maybe will give you some insight or info.
http://www.dhfs.state.wi.us/rl_DSL/Publications/04-019.htm
http://listserv.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind9810e&L=nursenet
look under #28 on this websight.
Lisa
Did a search and came up with these. I don't know if they will help, and one is quite old, but maybe will give you some insight or info.http://www.dhfs.state.wi.us/rl_DSL/Publications/04-019.htmhttp://listserv.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind9810e&L=nursenetlook under #28 on this websight.Lisa
hi lisa, thank you for your help. i already have wisconsin and i went to the other wedsite. i'ts helpful too, giving me information that they already pronounce death at california depending on the hospital and examples of reason that we nurses do not need the doctor just to pronounce death. again t.y. marie
babynurselsa, RN
1,129 Posts
http://www.touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title08/Chapter68/Section395.htmhttp://www.nccusl.org/nccusl/uniformact_factsheets/uniformacts-fs-udda.asp
http://www.dph.state.ct.us/phc/docs/1_Pronouncement_of_Death_by.dochttp://www.bne.state.tx.us/rndeath.htm
Here are a few links for you to look at. The Uniform Determination of Death act which has been adopted by most states(Not NJ) gives any competent individual the authority to pronounce for absence of respirations, cardiac and brain function. This means apneic, pulseless, fixed and dilated.
I had the link with the entire document, it is short but can't find it right this minute.