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LaGuardia student, LPN advice needed

Hello,

I'm currently majoring in nursing at LaGuardia Community College. It is my first semester and I am aware that it is highly competitive. I am getting an A in all of my classes, but I may be getting an A minus in my A and P class. And you guys will likely know what that means...:uhoh21:

Anyway, I am applying for candidacy in the spring just for kicks. IF I get into the program, great. If I don't, I am taking some precautions right now. I will take the NLN to apply to nursing schools for next fall (Beth Israel is my first choice). I'm also considering doing the LPN program at LAGCC so that if I do become an LPN, I will at least have a skill and I can start working to pay off my loans little by little. I will still pursue RN.

What do you guys think, should I apply for the LPN or would I save time and money going straight for the RN?

Hello,

I'm currently majoring in nursing at LaGuardia Community College. It is my first semester and I am aware that it is highly competitive. I am getting an A in all of my classes, but I may be getting an A minus in my A and P class. And you guys will likely know what that means...:uhoh21:

Anyway, I am applying for candidacy in the spring just for kicks. IF I get into the program, great. If I don't, I am taking some precautions right now. I will take the NLN to apply to nursing schools for next fall (Beth Israel is my first choice). I'm also considering doing the LPN program at LAGCC so that if I do become an LPN, I will at least have a skill and I can start working to pay off my loans little by little. I will still pursue RN.

What do you guys think, should I apply for the LPN or would I save time and money going straight for the RN?

As a LPN who has just graduated from RN school, i would encourage you to go straight for your RN, the only reason i went for the LPN first is because of the competitiveness of geting into a RN program. Since your grades are great just go ahead and apply for the RN. Nothing is wrong with being a LPN, trust me i've learn alot, but this should be your second option!!!!

twinmommaRN08

Specializes in Med-Surg.

I agree with the poster above me, one A- should not stop you from getting into the program. I graduated from the RN program in the spring and I had an A- in both A&Ps (I took the second one with fundamentals and it was difficult).

Wow, thank you guys very much! I agree, I'm sure there is nothing wrong with being an LPN. If anything, I will get some great experience. In that case, I will just go straight for the RN and worry about school loans later.

RN08FutureCNM, did you graduate from LaGCC's program? I went to a nursing seminar just a few days ago as they scared the poop out of me saying that if students got an A- in the first A and P class, they would most likely not get into the the program. It will be of some relief that an A- is still okay...I am still pushing to just get a regular A though.

twinmommaRN08

Specializes in Med-Surg.

Hey Plain Vanilla,

Sorry it took so long for me to respond, I haven't been back to this side of the forums in a while. To answer your question, yes I am a spring '08 graduate of LaGcc; the program is tough but doable. I got into the program with an A- in A&P 1, but each semester the GPA requirement for acceptance into the program changes because it all depends on the GPAs of the other candidates applying.

Hope that makes sense and is some help to you.

HI Plain Vanilla,

Since you are attending Laguardia and I'm actually going to be going to that school soon. I want to know about the prerequired courses you have to take to get into the program. Also what GPA do you need to get into the program. Can you tell me please. I'm so clueless. I finished up my BA in sociology now Im changing and going into nursing to be an LPN. Can you tell me.. and how many credits you need to complete the program?

THanks!

Hello Honest,

Since you are attending Laguardia and I'm actually going to be going to that school soon. I want to know about the prerequired courses you have to take to get into the program. Also what GPA do you need to get into the program. Can you tell me please. I'm so clueless. I finished up my BA in sociology now Im changing and going into nursing to be an LPN. Can you tell me.. and how many credits you need to complete the program?

As far as I know, LPNs need three key courses that they need to do well in. They are human biology I, English 101, and Psychology 101. Since you have a bachelors, they will probably take into consideration the grades you recieved in those classes before. But, you could probably take them over again to get As in them if you really want to in case you didn't get As in them before. I'm not sure how it works, but I've heard about people taking classes like those over again because they got a C in for example English 101. You would have to ask an advisor about that.

For the human biology, that one is going to be a killer. They cram a lot of information in the lecture and you have memorize the various names of the bones and muscles in your body for the lab. And not just the bone, they want you memorize the names of certain nooks and crannies. I ended up getting a B in that class, but if you get a B and you're applying for LPN you should be fine. A lot of people I know actually switched their majors to LPN because they got a B in that very class.

And for GPA requirement, I believe that they want 3.6. When you start taking the classes, they'll want you to take the class called "Medical Dosages" and make sure to get an A in it. The class itself was pretty easy (think: fractions, converting things from miligrams to grams...vice versa, and memorizing abbreviations) so you should have no problem and I'm sure you will find it a piece of cake.

The whole program itself seems to take about a year or a little more than a year to finish; 48 credits. In fact if you do the three key courses, you can apply for LPN candidacy that same semester. Just be sure to apply early though. So that when you finish that semester, the school will send you a letter saying whether or not you can go on and take the actual courses for the next semester.

Hope it helps!

Thanks for the advice. I just emailed the department and they told me that you need a 3.44 GPA. But I am glad that you replied to the post because that will help me. I'm actually late for the candidancy. KAren of the LPN department told me the deadline was MARch 31st which was yesterday Darn!! Are you in the program already? How do you get into the program if its so competitive and so many people trying to get in?

Thanks!

Hello Honest,

Are you in the program already? How do you get into the program if its so competitive and so many people trying to get in?

I myself am not in the RN program (hopefully yet). Pretty much the best way to get into the program is to have a good GPA. If they set their LPN standards to 3.4 GPA, try to get a 3.6 or higher. What I'm trying to do is get A's in my current four credit classes so my GPA will "sky rocket".

I've heard that what also makes you a good candidate is if you have completed all or most of the prerequisites that you need to take before all the nursing courses. A lot of my friends ended up dropping out of human biology I or got C's in them and are now looking at other schools to do nursing or taking that class again this semester. Needless to say, that will raise my chances and you'll probably see the same thing happening if they make you take those classes (especially in the fall semester). And if they do make you take classes like human biology I, you'll notice that most of the people in there are nursing majors. When I came back this semester to take human biology II, I noticed a lot of those people have gone. And the same ones I do see are applying to places like NYU. It's been making me wonder if there really are a lot of people trying get in this semester because it seems like there are drastically less people trying than last semester.

If your GPA is really good you should try RN candidacy, although finishing the program will take longer.

wow that is crazy. Well right now I'm just aiming for the LPN program haven't really thought about RN yet because I know how long it will take. Yea I'm pretty sure the Biology 1 is hard that's why people are getting C's in them. I myself am really bad in biology but hopefully I do good in that course I wouldn't have to deal too much materials in biology. Oh and for Biology II it doesn't count towards the GPA to get into the program it is only ENg 101, ssy 101, math 106, and SCB203. I actually took Eng 110 in another school not sure if that covers eng 101. I actually got an A in that course. SSY 101 i took that but did really bad like a C-.. took it during my freshman year so it explains it. I would have to retake that course again. I know Math 106 don't sound too difficult. All I'm worrying about is the Biology and Psychology course. I hope I can get A's in them once i start taking them.

Oh do you have any idea if the summer semester offer the Math 106 I want to take it, but not sure if I can.

do you have any suggestions on which professor I should choose for these classes to get one that can somewhat help me do good in the classes?

Thanks and once again... you are definitely a big help!! honestly!

Oh do you have any idea if the summer semester offer the Math 106 I want to take it, but not sure if I can.

do you have any suggestions on which professor I should choose for these classes to get one that can somewhat help me do good in the classes?

I just checked the website to take microbiology over the summer and they do offer the MAT106 summer course. There are not a lot of seats filled yet.

If you take Psychology 101, I recommend Dr. ***** ******. I bought the book, only to not use it at all the entire semester. Instead I payed attention in class, wrote everything he wrote on the board into my notes, studied those notes and got an A. If you must use the book, borrow it from the library. They have the books there where you can take them out for two hours at a time while in the library. He is also very helpful and will explain anything you are unsure of in plain English.

As for biology, unfortunately I have not heard about any specific lecture teacher being good. In fact, most of that class seems to be teaching yourself the things from the books and slides they show in class. It seems that all the lecture teachers read off of the slides and that is about it. Avoid Dr. * ******* if you can. I had him last semester and a lot of people found his quizzes difficult. He is very "from the book". He also doesn't have office hours, probably because he is an M.D.

If you know who you are going to get for the lab, get Dr. ****** ************. He gives a list of all the names of the bones and muscles you need to know for the practicals. As for his written tests, just write everything he writes on the board (or whatever he talks about if he doesn't write anything) because that's all he bases his written tests on.

I had Mr. * **** ******* for English and I found him to be a very lenient guy. As long as you do the essay, he will let you revise it again. He even said that if anyone needs help revising their essays, they can go to see him during his office hours and he will look over what you have and tell you what you have to improve. He seems like the kind of guy that as long as he sees you really making that effort, he will give you an A. But since you already took English 101, they'll probably just count that instead.

As for the math, I don't know. The work is easy enough, so I don't think picking a professor will be too much of an issue.

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wow you are so very helpful. Thank you so much. I am definitely going to take your advice. I mean is there a need to take Biology II b/c i was told that's the pre-req but it doesn't count towards your GPA. Do you have any idea? hmm.. and another thing you mentioned before and I forgot to ask you how about the candidancy. Lets say I take my pre-req courses in the Fall and spring but they're doing the candidancy spring semester. Can I still apply and get in the program even though I'm not fully completing the pre-req courses?

Just thought they would have to see your completed GPA of all the courses.

Also one last quest for today, Do you happen to know the deadline for registering for summer classes? I really want to go to summer school and get a head start instead of waiting for the fall. Just planning on taking both the psy 101 and the math 106.

REally thanks a whole bunch!

is there a need to take Biology II b/c i was told that's the pre-req but it doesn't count towards your GPA. Do you have any idea? hmm.. and another thing you mentioned before and I forgot to ask you how about the candidancy. Lets say I take my pre-req courses in the Fall and spring but they're doing the candidancy spring semester. Can I still apply and get in the program even though I'm not fully completing the pre-req courses?

Just thought they would have to see your completed GPA of all the courses.

Also one last quest for today, Do you happen to know the deadline for registering for summer classes? I really want to go to summer school and get a head start instead of waiting for the fall. Just planning on taking both the psy 101 and the math 106.

LPNs still have to take Human Biology II. Although it's not a key course (yet...the nursing program has been thinking about making SCB204 a key course probably for RNs, but I don't think they did that yet), you should still try to do your best in it since it counts for your overall GPA. Although what you can do is take just the prereqs and get into the program and then worry about 204 later (a friend of mine did that).

Even if you're still finishing your prereqs during the spring semester, you can still apply for candidacy for the following fall. I asked my councelor about how they do that, and she told me that they consider the grade you got in your prereq after the end of the spring semester. Then the school sends you a letter in June sometime saying whether or not you got in the program.

I'm not sure yet when the deadline for applying for spring session two is. When I find out, I will let you know.

oh ok, I guess I'll just do that then. I'll just take the Bio II once i'm done with all my prerequisite. I'm not sure if you might know this but for psychology 101 I didn't do so well on at my other school b/c i took it during my freshman year. Really didn't take it too seriously. I was wondering if I re-take the course that they will drop the old grade and replace it with the new grade. I'm just scared b/c i'm thinking they might factor in the old grade with the new and that will mess up my GPA. Do you have any idea on how it works? Please let me know.

oh ok, I guess I'll just do that then. I'll just take the Bio II once i'm done with all my prerequisite. I'm not sure if you might know this but for psychology 101 I didn't do so well on at my other school b/c i took it during my freshman year. Really didn't take it too seriously. I was wondering if I re-take the course that they will drop the old grade and replace it with the new grade. I'm just scared b/c i'm thinking they might factor in the old grade with the new and that will mess up my GPA. Do you have any idea on how it works? Please let me know.

Hello Honest,

Sorry it has been a while. I just finished midterms. To tell you the truth, I am not sure what they would do. Usually when credits transfer, the grades do not. They may not have the grade transferred but in the off chance it does get counted against you, you would have to get permission from the department (I am not sure if it is the nursing department or psychology) to retake it. It is doable, there are people I know now who took Human Biology I at LaGuardia and are retaking it again this semester.

I have some bad news however, because I just learned from the department yesterday that starting this fall students will no longer be eligible to apply for candidacy for LPN in the fall semester and that applying for LPN candidacy is now once a year every March. It is troublesome because this may mean that getting into the LPN program may become even more competitive because when we were able to apply every semester there were ninety seats per semester. But now there are ninety seats for one year. This is also troublesome for me because I don't think that I will get into the RN program after all and now I have to wait for a few months to apply for LPN candidacy.

Getting into LaGuardia's nursing programs are hard enough as it is, but the nursing department told me that not all CUNY schools are implementing this. If you can go to another CUNY school to do LPN which offers by-semester candidacy, you should do it. Maybe for me staying at LaGuardia will be a waste of time and now I'm looking at other programs, too.

What school do you suggest I go to b/c i applied for Laguardia already and did the registering and everything. I"m not sure which other cuny schools offer the LPN program twice a year.

Queensboro Community College should have it as well as BMCC and I think there is one called Hostos in the Bronx. If you're already registered at LaGuardia, then you should give it a shot. I'm not sure if registration for those other schools have ended already, but probably not. The only drawback to that is if you register at another school, the key course classes might be filled up already. I am not sure if the other CUNY schools start earlier than LaGuardia.

I am sure it would be less of a wait for you if you're going to take the prereqs slowly. It might even be beneficial if you spread them out and get more time to study. But just be sure to score as high as you can in your classes, just in case.

I don't know why they are changing the program; I will find out before I go to class tomorrow. If I find out anything else new I will post it.

THanks for letting me know. I found out that hostos is worse that laguardia. They have about only 30 seats open and have one candidancy a year. The same goes for BMCC. I'm not too sure about queens community but all I know is that its probably a new thing. They're probably only going to be doing one candidancy a year now. Laguardia i believe have 90 seats which is good. Yes, please post the new info.

I'm going to give it a shot since they will not select until next year I'm just going to take my courses one at a time and try to ace them. I'm aiming for like a 3.7 average.. I don't think its that bad b/c the cut off for last year was 3.4 so I think it should be fine.

One question so if you don't get selected for this year.. b/c of your gpa then you have to wait til next year right hoping that they won't have students with high gpa so you can qualify.

THanks for letting me know. I found out that hostos is worse that laguardia. They have about only 30 seats open and have one candidancy a year. The same goes for BMCC. I'm not too sure about queens community but all I know is that its probably a new thing. They're probably only going to be doing one candidancy a year now. Laguardia i believe have 90 seats which is good. Yes, please post the new info.

I'm going to give it a shot since they will not select until next year I'm just going to take my courses one at a time and try to ace them. I'm aiming for like a 3.7 average.. I don't think its that bad b/c the cut off for last year was 3.4 so I think it should be fine.

One question so if you don't get selected for this year.. b/c of your gpa then you have to wait til next year right hoping that they won't have students with high gpa so you can qualify.

I think you're right, although I called Queensboro C.C. and they said they are still doing candidacy on a semester basis. I think the schools are getting too crowded or something, because I learned that there has been a high rate of people applying since last fall.

Yes, that is what the plan is. If I don't get into the RN program, then I'll wait and probably retake a couple of classes while I wait. If you get a 3.7 GPA, then I think you'll have a pretty good lead. And the department told me if you end up taking other nursing classes that are not part of the curriculum, they won't even look at it. They'll calculate your GPA based on your prerequisites.

Did you register for classes yet?

No, I haven't registered yet. I don't even have the fall schedule of classes. I just applied and got all my information through to laguardia now i'm just waiting on a date for them to give me so I can start registering. Do you happen to have the schedule for the Fall semester? I"m thinking of taking medical dosage and psy 101 and will try to ace both courses. I'm going to take Bio the following semester... just that one class so that i can ace it. Oh yea i got like an A- or something on my eng course from my other school do you think that will transfer over b/c i don't want to take english again.

You never know we might end up in the same class * winks *

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