IUK ASN program shutting down?

SchoolRN,BSN · Mar 7, 2006

Hi Lori,

I got the same letter (today) & was just as surprised as you. I had been told it would be at least 3 years before they would discontinue the program.

The reason I was given by IUK is that the state is putting pressure on them to turn the 2 yr programs over to the technical schools. Why, I don't know, but that's what I was told.

When I turned my app in today, the secretary said they sent out 240 for 50 seats. Certainly doesn't seem like they are hurting for students, huh! Wonder what that will push the gpa cutoff to???

Are you in a different local program?

Heather

WickedRedRN, BSN, RN · Mar 8, 2006

Heather,

Good Luck to you, I hope you make it in. I always thought very highly of their program, I am sad to see it go. I hope I can get my BSN from IU when it is time for that.

Yes, I got into Ivy Tech in Columbus, so I drive there from Indy. Great program and instructors. I know the way IUK selects, I was low priority for them since I was out of their territory, so I think my chances were not good since we had moved.

Best of luck to you, I look forward to your "I got THE Letter" Post! :)

SchoolRN,BSN · Mar 8, 2006

Lori,

Thanks very much for the good wishes! I hope I make it in too...

It's good to hear that you found a program near you. I think they are getting fewer & fewer (it seems like, anyway!). I am planning on completing the "pod" program after the ASN. It's IUK's version of the RN-BSN bridge. They just cram the classes into one night a week for 3 semesters.

Good luck with your studies. I have heard good things about the

Columbus program, so you should be well prepared to take boards. How much longer do you have to go?

We're supposed to hear on/by April 21st, so I'll be anxious to see how it turns out.

Heather

christianRN · Mar 22, 2006

IVY Tech is cheaper and I think IUK's enrollment was down due to IVY Tech's entrance with their ASN program. I'm sure if they were making money they wouldn't consider ending their ASN program! With all of their problems with obtaining clinical sites, I don't think Kokomo will miss IU-K's ASN program. IVY Tech will step up to the bat and meet the community's needs. IU-K is notoriously hard to deal with and I know students who have satisfied all of their requirements but are still waiting for clinical sites so they can finish. IU-K's NCLEX pass rate is horrid compared to IVY Tech. I think it will all work out ok!

SchoolRN,BSN · Mar 22, 2006

Hi christianRN,

I was just wondering if you know what the low pass rates are attributed to at IUK? You are not the first person I've heard say that. In fact, one person told me that was the reason they were doing away with the program.

I have seen a wide range of motivation in the students at IUK. From "desperate to get in" to "haven't got anything better to do". I think this is primarily due to the fact that it is a community college with a huge age (and maturity) range in the student population. I wonder if this isn't also part of the reason that the pass rates are unusually low. Or worst case...is there something fundamentally wrong with the program itself???

Just looking for info & ways to make my time there well spent. I think it holds true that you get what you give, especially in an educational setting.

Thanks:D

sunnyjohn · Mar 24, 2006

Purdue Calumet is also pahsing out their ASN program. This is the last group of applications they are taking for the ASN they are foing to an all BSN progam.

http://www.calumet.purdue.edu/nursing/adn.html

IUNRSINGSTDNT · Feb 5, 2009

I attend IU-Kokomo and I am a junior in the BSN program. IU Kokomo stated that the reason for closing the ASN program was because the accrediation is up in 2010 and they do not want to reapply for ASN accrediation because the need of the field is going more towards BSN prepared nurses. All IU schools are weeding out all associate degree programs in all schools and in all programs. At the same time, all IU schools and programs are giving their associate programs to Ivy Tech, there for, you may apply any associate degree earned at Ivy Tech to a bachelor degree at IU. This is true in any and all programs including nursing. It is not just at IU-Kokomo. Frankly, I do not believe it has anything to do with business because there is a waitlist to get in the BSN program and it just opens up more BSN spots because many of the ASN professors are not teaching BSN classes and instead of only being admitted in the fall to the BSN program you will be able to start the program in spring. There is not less students attending the campus for nursing there are just more BSN students, there for, in my opinion younger students. I am happy to see the change. It opens up more BSN spots, and I, like the campus believe that is where the nursing field is going. iI you want an ASN go to Ivy Tech if you want a BSN go to IU-Kokomo. Personally, I would rather have a BSN even if I went to Ivy Tech for nursing I would prolley get a bachelor's degree in another field.

As far as the pass rate for IU-Kokomo to each their own. In my opinion is it about how hard you study and how hard you work towards your goal. I do not believe it is the job of the professor to hold your hand during nursing school. To be a nurse you have to be able to think on your own and for yourself, independently. I believe IU-Kokomo prepares you for that and at the end of the day I do not hold them responsible for passing or failing my NCLEX-RN, I can only hold myself responsible for that. At the end of the day I will have a bachelor's degree from Indiana University.

I had a 3.32 (not great but...) I was put on the waiting list for the BSN program. If IU-Kokomo would have not closed the ASN program I would have had to wait around for a year and re take classes to get my GPA up to get in the nursing program. Since the ASN program closed I was able to start nursing classes in the spring of 2008. The same thing happened to my friend who transferred from Purdue with a 3.54. She applied when the ASN program was still around and had to wait a year and reapply to nursing school. It will take her 6.5 years to graduate. All in all, closing of the ASN program at IU-Kokomo is better for BSN students :)