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Okay, so I just need to ***** for a second. Last night my charge nurse gave a double dose of Ketamine and a benadril to a pt. I'm not saying she gave him 2 when he gets one to 2. She gave him twice the dose he was supposed to get. I witnessed all of this because it took place at the nurses station. So, because I don't like calls in the morning asking me what the hell happened and why the pt was over sedated, I reported what happened to the oncoming charge nurse. (And yes, when stuff happens at night and they want to know what is going on they call me; not the charge nurse.) She also had me write down what was given and when so that she could give it to the ADON. Then at 2 I get told that the ADONs response was "Tell him to mind his own business." Now we don't get along real well anyway because of past issues, but I would think that when something like that happens the people in charge would want to know. Ketamine isn't a tylenol or antacid. This is heavy duty stuff. I just don't know what to do anymore. The nurse that I work with has already killed one person and it's been close calls on a few others and every time I tell them the stupid crap she does I get in trouble because of it. She doesn't even get told not to do it again it's just completely ignored. I just don't know what to do anymore.

And just to add to my fun I just found out the ADON will be my charge nurse on Tuesday. ***. Is it to late for my mother to abort me? cause I'm thinking I could convince her.

Okay, so I just need to ***** for a second. Last night my charge nurse gave a double dose of Ketamine and a benadril to a pt. I'm not saying she gave him 2 when he gets one to 2. She gave him twice the dose he was supposed to get. I witnessed all of this because it took place at the nurses station. So, because I don't like calls in the morning asking me what the hell happened and why the pt was over sedated, I reported what happened to the oncoming charge nurse. (And yes, when stuff happens at night and they want to know what is going on they call me; not the charge nurse.) She also had me write down what was given and when so that she could give it to the ADON. Then at 2 I get told that the ADONs response was "Tell him to mind his own business." Now we don't get along real well anyway because of past issues, but I would think that when something like that happens the people in charge would want to know. Ketamine isn't a tylenol or antacid. This is heavy duty stuff. I just don't know what to do anymore. The nurse that I work with has already killed one person and it's been close calls on a few others and every time I tell them the stupid crap she does I get in trouble because of it. She doesn't even get told not to do it again it's just completely ignored. I just don't know what to do anymore.

And just to add to my fun I just found out the ADON will be my charge nurse on Tuesday. ***. Is it to late for my mother to abort me? cause I'm thinking I could convince her.

Sounds to me like someone has an issue w/ nurses! Ketamine? Probably would've killed them. Seriously, stop violating HIPPA & stick to your job. Or go get your RN!

You need to attend to your own duties and spend less time monitoring others. Otherwise you may find yourself terminated because management wants to get rid of what they perceive to be an annoying employee.

I am wondering two things a) why did the CNA look at a portion of the chart out of their scope of practice and 2) why did they not confront the LPN if they 'knew' a medication error was occuring?

If I were to make an assumption that something wrong was happening to one of my residents I would ask in a non accusing manner why so and so was getting a different dose of such and such med this evening and if there were any s/s I should look out for to notify the LPN about.

So what would the appropriate course of action for a CNA to take if they saw a LPN or Med Tech either give what they believed to be the wrong dose or the wrong med to a resident? (I understand meds are out of the scope of practice but I also feel that if I were to work with certain people over a few years I would get to 'know' what they take and want to inquire if I thought something was out of line) Or is a CNA just supposed to stick to their scope and mandatory reporting only applies to subjects covered by the scope of practice?

ETA: Sorry if I'm getting off topic here but I like to approach all threads with a what would I do mentality and learn from what my peers experience and what the experet CNAs on here have to say:)

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