Is it Worth applying to New York Presbyterian New Grad Residency?

StudentNurs2015 · Dec 6, 2014

Hi there! I know this was last year but I was just wondering how did things turn out for you? I graduate next year and I constantly hear stories about new grads having no luck of finding a job, especially if no experience. Do you have any advice?

yetzertov7 · May 5, 2015

Question. how does one get into a hospital at all, if one is 1) not a New grad, but 2) has more than a few years experience, and 3) none are Hospital or clinic experience? Are there any intern/extern/residency programs in NYC that fit?

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yetzertov7 · May 5, 2015

Have you considered queens, white plains, Brooklyn, Bronx, Westchester county? agencies? or are you only seeking hospitals?

RescueNinjaKy · May 5, 2015

People, New York City is like impossible to get hired if you don't have experience. I'm speaking strictly of acute care. Think about it, we all know there is no shortage of nurses and then when you combine the high salary and glamorous life of being in one of the most famous city in the world (the city that never sleeps), there's not gonna be any jobs for new grads. Is it fair? No, but it's reality. You're competing with experienced nurses from other states who want that life and money. Then there are a boatload of new grads too.

Now if you want to do a ltc or home health, there is still hope, but they still might not help you get into acute care. My suggestion, relocate get your experience then try again.

DoGoodThenGo · May 5, 2015

People, New York City is like impossible to get hired if you don't have experience. I'm speaking strictly of acute care. Think about it, we all know there is no shortage of nurses and then when you combine the high salary and glamorous life of being in one of the most famous city in the world (the city that never sleeps), there's not gonna be any jobs for new grads. Is it fair? No, but it's reality. You're competing with experienced nurses from other states who want that life and money. Then there are a boatload of new grads too.
Now if you want to do a ltc or home health, there is still hope, but they still might not help you get into acute care. My suggestion, relocate get your experience then try again.

You make living here sound like something out of Sex and the City.

For all that "glamour" it is worth remembering New York is a high tax state and city. Do nurses earn good wages? Yes, but even at 75k-81k (starting wages for new grad hires) you cannot afford to purchase a house or apartment in most of the City. Renting as well may prove difficult unless you have roommates and or live outside of Manhattan.

New grads *are* hired by NYC hospitals. It just so happens supply far out strips open positions which allows places to be *very* picky who they take on.

The City is still reeling from the closure of something like ten or more hospitals in the past several years. So yes, the demand for new grads is tempered by the fact many experienced nurses from the Saint Vincent's Catholic system, Long Island College Hospital, North General, and so forth.

You also have to keep in mind only a few hospital systems (NS-LIJ comes to mind) in NYC are flush with cash. The rest were facing difficult financial times before the Medicare/Medicaid cuts from ObamaCare kicked in, now they are looking at even more losses. To stem that flow of red ink inpatient beds are being reduced. Less butts in beds translates into less need for nursing service.

It also does not help matters any that most all the major NYC hospital systems have moved to BSN or preferred mandates. This while a bulk of the local programs are ADN. Right off the bat you have scores if not hundreds of new grads each year that simply aren't on the short list for NS-LIJ, NYU, Mount Sinai and NYP. Experienced ADN nurses are another matter.

In short it is less about the lifestyle of NYC (glam or not) than structural problems that need to be addressed. As noted elsewhere NYC nursing programs continue to graduate record numbers of new nurses while hospital inpatient beds are declining.

All this being said and haven't touched upon experienced nurses not retiring as predicted and the increasing use of techs/UAPs.

RescueNinjaKy · May 6, 2015

You make living here sound like something out of Sex and the City.
For all that "glamour" it is worth remembering New York is a high tax state and city. Do nurses earn good wages? Yes, but even at 75k-81k (starting wages for new grad hires) you cannot afford to purchase a house or apartment in most of the City. Renting as well may prove difficult unless you have roommates and or live outside of Manhattan.
New grads *are* hired by NYC hospitals. It just so happens supply far out strips open positions which allows places to be *very* picky who they take on.
The City is still reeling from the closure of something like ten or more hospitals in the past several years. So yes, the demand for new grads is tempered by the fact many experienced nurses from the Saint Vincent's Catholic system, Long Island College Hospital, North General, and so forth.
You also have to keep in mind only a few hospital systems (NS-LIJ comes to mind) in NYC are flush with cash. The rest were facing difficult financial times before the Medicare/Medicaid cuts from ObamaCare kicked in, now they are looking at even more losses. To stem that flow of red ink inpatient beds are being reduced. Less butts in beds translates into less need for nursing service.
It also does not help matters any that most all the major NYC hospital systems have moved to BSN or preferred mandates. This while a bulk of the local programs are ADN. Right off the bat you have scores if not hundreds of new grads each year that simply aren't on the short list for NS-LIJ, NYU, Mount Sinai and NYP. Experienced ADN nurses are another matter.
In short it is less about the lifestyle of NYC (glam or not) than structural problems that need to be addressed. As noted elsewhere NYC nursing programs continue to graduate record numbers of new nurses while hospital inpatient beds are declining.
All this being said and haven't touched upon experienced nurses not retiring as predicted and the increasing use of techs/UAPs.

I don't really understand your post, it sounds like you're saying my post is misinformed or incorrect in some way which I will definitely disagree. There are plenty of people who think New York City is still a glamorous place, just because you don't think so or you don't think it's like sex and the city doesn't mean that it isn't a glamorous and alluring place for many out of state nurses. Fashion, culture, great restaurants, clubs, landmarks, and home to many celebrities, yep, still a glamorous place for many. I'm born and raised New York City, and I am so over it, but many are not and even more haven't lived there before so they want that experience. It's not that hard to find an apartment to rent, especially in Brooklyn. Now buying is like you said, hard and expensive, but a lot of new grads are young and adventurous, they're not thinking to leave their home state to go to New York to buy houses, they want to party and have fun while working there. And yes there are taxes to be paid in New York but hey people will still be coming just because it's New York. Same thing with California, high cost of living but people still go because it's Cali. Is it smart for people to do that and is it worth it? Well it's up to them and people will still do things even if it's not a good idea.

I never stated that this is the only reason nor the primary reason as to why its hard to find a job in New York. I mean it's pretty well known that hospitals aren't doing well in New York and that they're still suffering for the dip in the economy.

And have you seen the ads for employment in New York lately.

As a recent new grad I will tell you from a first hand experience, many hospitals are posting in their requirements that new grads should not apply because they want someone with experience. So yes they are technically hiring but the chances of getting a spot is pretty slim, so it's pretty safe to say it's almost impossible to get a job there as a new grad RN. I mean the amount of open spots (due to economy, etc.) compared to the huge amount of new grads being pushed out from schools plus the out of staters makes it extremely difficult. Which is why I suggested that new grads should relocate if possible. What's worse than being a new grad? Being someone who graduated a long time ago and still haven't gotten any experience.

DoGoodThenGo · May 7, 2015

I don't really understand your post, it sounds like you're saying my post is misinformed or incorrect in some way which I will definitely disagree. There are plenty of people who think New York City is still a glamorous place, just because you don't think so or you don't think it's like sex and the city doesn't mean that it isn't a glamorous and alluring place for many out of state nurses. Fashion, culture, great restaurants, clubs, landmarks, and home to many celebrities, yep, still a glamorous place for many. I'm born and raised New York City, and I am so over it, but many are not and even more haven't lived there before so they want that experience. It's not that hard to find an apartment to rent, especially in Brooklyn. Now buying is like you said, hard and expensive, but a lot of new grads are young and adventurous, they're not thinking to leave their home state to go to New York to buy houses, they want to party and have fun while working there. And yes there are taxes to be paid in New York but hey people will still be coming just because it's New York. Same thing with California, high cost of living but people still go because it's Cali. Is it smart for people to do that and is it worth it? Well it's up to them and people will still do things even if it's not a good idea.
I never stated that this is the only reason nor the primary reason as to why its hard to find a job in New York. I mean it's pretty well known that hospitals aren't doing well in New York and that they're still suffering for the dip in the economy.
And have you seen the ads for employment in New York lately.
As a recent new grad I will tell you from a first hand experience, many hospitals are posting in their requirements that new grads should not apply because they want someone with experience. So yes they are technically hiring but the chances of getting a spot is pretty slim, so it's pretty safe to say it's almost impossible to get a job there as a new grad RN. I mean the amount of open spots (due to economy, etc.) compared to the huge amount of new grads being pushed out from schools plus the out of staters makes it extremely difficult. Which is why I suggested that new grads should relocate if possible. What's worse than being a new grad? Being someone who graduated a long time ago and still haven't gotten any experience.

Am not here to start a debate or worse war with you, just wanted to point out a few facts.

Having been born and raised in NYC as well the "glamour" factor has long worn off (if it ever existed). Suppose what others see as "exciting" I just take for granted. I mean after growing up on Staten Island seeing the Statue of Liberty is *NOT* an event. *LOL*

Not all NYC hospitals aren't doing well financially either; they are just choosing where to spend their money: Platinum Plan: NYC Hospitals’ Evolving Real Estate Portfolios | Commercial Observer

RescueNinjaKy · May 7, 2015

Yep the glamour is getting dull, us native New Yorkers are so over it. But other people think there's gold in the streets there. I moved to North Dakota for a job and it's been pretty interesting seeing all that open land. And to top it off, they have wild bunnies, gasp. Instead of squirrels and rats and pigeons like in New York.

kmichellex · Apr 16, 2018

I 100% disagree... NYU hired a bunch of new grads.. and Mount sinai ..etc.

You can find a job here without experiance. I have.

The start pay is even up in the 90's for new grads.

There's opportunity here you just have to be persistent

eceesay · Aug 3, 2019

@kmichellex I'm at nursing student at Emory University in Atlanta that wants to relocate back to NYC once I graduate in May. Do you have any advise on how to get a new grad job up there?