Published Aug 26, 2005
Is there any CRNA schools that did not fill all of there seats last year, or is there a site that you can see this kind of information?
Corvette Guy
1,505 Posts
Ready to be study buddies? Can't wait to meet you. I too am ready for those results to be made available
... Definitely!
sandman1914
128 Posts
I too am ready for those results to be made available
It will be a celebration. Assemble your crew.
READY4ANAP?
18 Posts
Shuucks! Yes sir indeed, a celebration it will be. Party will be at your place. While I'm there, why don't I stretch out. I'm sure you have a nice couch.
Enjoy yourself.:cheers: Hold my drink. :beer:
vvnurse
5 Posts
vaRN
Could you explain the va/army share program? Please!
Thanks in advance
AUMSTUDENT
4 Posts
I wonder why if the Army program is so underused then why are the AF and Navy programs so competitive? By the way I saw that USA Today ranked the Navy CRNA program 2nd only behind Harvard nursing, very impressive!
heartICU
462 Posts
Harvard does not even have an undergraduate nursing program, much less a nurse anesthesia program. Are you sure that is what you read?
I glanced at the rankings while in a book store one day on the fly. I remember it was an ivy league school and thought Harvard. Sorry for the wrong info.
i have only posted here a couple of times but i have a few things to share that may help some of you out. first off i am not a recruiter. okay, now that i have that one out of the way, let's get down to business. please take the time to read all of this, ignore my sometimes tough, maybe even arrogant and condascending tone because i'm actually a nice guy and don't mean to offend anyone. if i do, then i apologize in advance and don't mean to be that way but it's how it comes out sometimes folks. please have an open mind for all of you who are still applying to school or having troubles as there is still time to take advantage of this diamond in the rough that i am about to share with you. trust me you will learn something with what i am about to say. i second what mike had to say about the army program. the army this year had 34 applicants for the 50 seats available (been like thise for years people). i was one of those who applied this year. the official selection board does not convene until the 12th of sep but i can assure you that all of us who applied and meet the qualification criteria will be selected for the class of june 2006. this is according to those who are closet to the program and have the inside info. i'm sure that mike will back me up on this one. i am currently in the navy and will be switching to the army to go to school. after finding out about the army's program on my own i solicited advice from those who are intimate with the army's program. i had a loooong telephone conversation with mike about the good and the bad of the army's program. imo the only bad thing (according to some but not me) about the army's program is the obvious: possibly being deployed somewhere you may not like during conflict or time of war. however, keep this in mind when there are no conflicts or wars going on chances are pretty slim to none that you will be deployed. i know that the army's program is the best kept secret of all of the anesthesia programs out there. how can i make such a profound statement you may ask? well, here are the facts: 1. you get paid to go to school vs. paying to go to school. me personally i will make 75,000 my first year while in school and the pay will increase every year thereafter due to increases in rank and congresss mandated annual pay raises. i will also have 1st rate healthcare for me and my family at no cost. 30 month program means that on the low end i will walk away having made 187,500.00 to go to school. also, i will have no debt as the army pays for school. while some folks will be eating pbj and oodle noodles:o, i'll be eating surf and turf :chuckle . hell, i just finished the plans on my custom home that i'll be living in while in school. no living in some small apartment, penny pinching, backing up on my standard of living and worrying about money here folks. 2. some of you will have to shell out a ton of money just to move to other parts of the country just to go to school. it would cost about 10,000.00 for me to move from where i live to go to school in texas where the army's program is located. however, i will not have to pay on red cent to move cause the army is gonna foot the bill to move me. heck, i will actually get about 2,500.00 to move. in the military when you move from one place to the next you get what's called a dislocation allowance. 3. autonomy is second to none in the military as a crna. i can guarantee you that you will be very hard pressed to find a situation that offers more independence as a crna than in the military. yes, they do exist on the outside but that is not the everyday norm. in the military you are trained and expected to be independent from day one. some programs out there aren't really traing people to function as an independent provider from the start of class. some are forced to learn this on their own after graduation. in the military's eyes not being able to function each and every day on your own is counter productive to the mission and needs of the military. 4. the quality of education that you will receive is truly top notch. i know that many of you will say that your program is the best and yes i will proudly admit there are some incredible programs out there but here is one fact that very few of you folks know about. not many schools have human simulators. well, guess what, the army is the beta (experimental) test site for the company that manufactures the simulators that is in each of the schools across the nation be it crna or mda programs. that's gotta say something to those of you reading this. heck, the army even has a simulator dedicated for the purpose regional training. also, i will be issued a laptop that i plug into network everyday that i am in class with my notes pre-downloded on it. how many schools can boast that? 5. the amount of support that you will get to help you succeed and be the best that you can will not be matched anywhere else. why? here it is simply put: the professors (civilian and military) at the army's program have a much more serious and important goal than any other program in the nation. to train independent functioning crna's who are the best of the best to provide anesthesia to soliders, sailors and marines who, without reservation, volunteer to put their lives on the line in parts of the world that most of you have never been to and never will ever hear of to defend the freedoms that we all enjoy and take for granted now in return for all of these great things that i have discussed and will receive i have to work for 4.5 years as a payback. but i don't mind cause i gotta work somewhere anyway after school. in my eyes i figure for what i'm getting it's such a small price to pay. this one thing in itself that makes the whole deal worth it for me. at the time i start school i will only have one year of icu experience under my belt. now some but most of the schools won't even entertain my application. not that i am above any one or better than the next person but some of you will still be putting in your 3+ years of cleaning poo, dealing with gi bleeds, doing things that you don't want to do and god knows what else just to make yourself competitive for a school that you may not even get into . not me folks. i will have graduated and be practicing while some of you will be still putting in apps and doing your time doing things to "get in good" and make yourself "look favorable in the eyes" of certain schools . ask your self this is your time not worth something? you will never get those years back spent doing things you really don't want to do. cause lets face it, if you really wanted to be doing all that ridiculous stuff then you would not be trying to become a crna. sneer at me if you want but who really wins in this situation. there is an old saying: take the path of least resistance and that is exactly what i am doing. i encourage those who are trying to get into school to do the same. so why does a program that has all that going for it have unfilled seats? because people are uninformed, misinformed and afraid to try something different. and some folks just plain want something for nothing. pm me, heck i'm sure mike won't mind you quizzing him up a bit either, if you want to find out more and are ready to make a move that you will never forget or regret instead of being made to jump through all those ridiculous rings of fire that many of the other crna programs will subject you to. thanks for taking the time to read this.:chuckle "if there is no struggle, there is no progress.the struggle may be a moral one or it may be a physical one, or it may both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. power concedes nothing without a demand. it never has and it never will. find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both." source: frederick douglass
i second what mike had to say about the army program. the army this year had 34 applicants for the 50 seats available (been like thise for years people). i was one of those who applied this year. the official selection board does not convene until the 12th of sep but i can assure you that all of us who applied and meet the qualification criteria will be selected for the class of june 2006. this is according to those who are closet to the program and have the inside info. i'm sure that mike will back me up on this one.
i am currently in the navy and will be switching to the army to go to school. after finding out about the army's program on my own i solicited advice from those who are intimate with the army's program. i had a loooong telephone conversation with mike about the good and the bad of the army's program. imo the only bad thing (according to some but not me) about the army's program is the obvious: possibly being deployed somewhere you may not like during conflict or time of war. however, keep this in mind when there are no conflicts or wars going on chances are pretty slim to none that you will be deployed. i know that the army's program is the best kept secret of all of the anesthesia programs out there. how can i make such a profound statement you may ask? well, here are the facts:
1. you get paid to go to school vs. paying to go to school. me personally i will make 75,000 my first year while in school and the pay will increase every year thereafter due to increases in rank and congresss mandated annual pay raises. i will also have 1st rate healthcare for me and my family at no cost. 30 month program means that on the low end i will walk away having made 187,500.00 to go to school. also, i will have no debt as the army pays for school. while some folks will be eating pbj and oodle noodles:o, i'll be eating surf and turf :chuckle . hell, i just finished the plans on my custom home that i'll be living in while in school. no living in some small apartment, penny pinching, backing up on my standard of living and worrying about money here folks.
2. some of you will have to shell out a ton of money just to move to other parts of the country just to go to school. it would cost about 10,000.00 for me to move from where i live to go to school in texas where the army's program is located. however, i will not have to pay on red cent to move cause the army is gonna foot the bill to move me. heck, i will actually get about 2,500.00 to move. in the military when you move from one place to the next you get what's called a dislocation allowance.
3. autonomy is second to none in the military as a crna. i can guarantee you that you will be very hard pressed to find a situation that offers more independence as a crna than in the military. yes, they do exist on the outside but that is not the everyday norm. in the military you are trained and expected to be independent from day one. some programs out there aren't really traing people to function as an independent provider from the start of class. some are forced to learn this on their own after graduation. in the military's eyes not being able to function each and every day on your own is counter productive to the mission and needs of the military.
4. the quality of education that you will receive is truly top notch. i know that many of you will say that your program is the best and yes i will proudly admit there are some incredible programs out there but here is one fact that very few of you folks know about. not many schools have human simulators. well, guess what, the army is the beta (experimental) test site for the company that manufactures the simulators that is in each of the schools across the nation be it crna or mda programs. that's gotta say something to those of you reading this. heck, the army even has a simulator dedicated for the purpose regional training. also, i will be issued a laptop that i plug into network everyday that i am in class with my notes pre-downloded on it. how many schools can boast that?
5. the amount of support that you will get to help you succeed and be the best that you can will not be matched anywhere else. why? here it is simply put: the professors (civilian and military) at the army's program have a much more serious and important goal than any other program in the nation. to train independent functioning crna's who are the best of the best to provide anesthesia to soliders, sailors and marines who, without reservation, volunteer to put their lives on the line in parts of the world that most of you have never been to and never will ever hear of to defend the freedoms that we all enjoy and take for granted
now in return for all of these great things that i have discussed and will receive i have to work for 4.5 years as a payback. but i don't mind cause i gotta work somewhere anyway after school. in my eyes i figure for what i'm getting it's such a small price to pay. this one thing in itself that makes the whole deal worth it for me. at the time i start school i will only have one year of icu experience under my belt. now some but most of the schools won't even entertain my application. not that i am above any one or better than the next person but some of you will still be putting in your 3+ years of cleaning poo, dealing with gi bleeds, doing things that you don't want to do and god knows what else just to make yourself competitive for a school that you may not even get into . not me folks. i will have graduated and be practicing while some of you will be still putting in apps and doing your time doing things to "get in good" and make yourself "look favorable in the eyes" of certain schools . ask your self this is your time not worth something? you will never get those years back spent doing things you really don't want to do. cause lets face it, if you really wanted to be doing all that ridiculous stuff then you would not be trying to become a crna. sneer at me if you want but who really wins in this situation. there is an old saying: take the path of least resistance and that is exactly what i am doing. i encourage those who are trying to get into school to do the same.
so why does a program that has all that going for it have unfilled seats? because people are uninformed, misinformed and afraid to try something different. and some folks just plain want something for nothing. pm me, heck i'm sure mike won't mind you quizzing him up a bit either, if you want to find out more and are ready to make a move that you will never forget or regret instead of being made to jump through all those ridiculous rings of fire that many of the other crna programs will subject you to. thanks for taking the time to read this.:chuckle
"if there is no struggle, there is no progress.the struggle may be a moral one or it may be a physical one, or it may both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. power concedes nothing without a demand. it never has and it never will. find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both." source: frederick douglass
for those interested in this program for june 2007, now would be a good time to contact a health care recruiter:coollook:
KristyEDrn
72 Posts
Wow...you guys have really made me feel so much better about possibly choosing army over others. My goal is to become a CRNA also and I have been talking to an army recruiter. My concern is that I have only an ADN with BS in public health education. I can join as a reserve officer and then go to school for BSN. THEN I can go active and start the process of applying for CRNA...or should I stay reserve and apply? I am wondering how long it would be before I could apply for CRNA after obtaining BSN...any ideas? advice?
rayman
158 Posts
There has been similar advice in threads...don't join first! That is if your goal is to be a CRNA. I am a veteran. There is a line in all those papers you sign that reads something to the effect of: you will serve at the needs of the army, navy, airforce, marines. In other words, once you are theirs they can do with you what they want.
I understand that and that is why I am thinking of staying reserves and getting BSN and then not going active until it is possible for me to get accepted.