Is the BSN for Everybody? Things to Consider when Considering School

This article explores the pros and cons of registered nurses pursuing their BSN. The information included is based on the writer's personal observations and experiences, both before and after obtaining a BSN degree.

  1. Does the BSN really benefit bedside nurses?

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      No. The job is the same with or without the degree.
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      Yes. The BSN improves direct bedside care.
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      Yes, but only as a stepping stone to advanced clinical practice (FNP, CRNA, CNS)

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How important is schedule to you?

If you're the kind of nurse who loves working three 12s and having the rest of your week off, you might find that options are limited away from the bedside. Many non-clinical positions are Monday-Friday, daytime operations that only offer 8 hour shifts. Some may offer 4-10s or rotating shifts, but 3-day work weeks are hard to come by outside of direct patient care.

What part of nursing do you enjoy?

If you really love taking care of patients, and really loathe sitting in meetings and doing paperwork, that's something to consider when thinking about your BSN. Leadership and education positions tend to involve a lot of writing and speaking; if figuring out schedules, sending emails, and giving presentations is not your thing, most administrative BSN roles won't be a good fit.

On the other hand, if the clinical aspect of nursing is your passion and you intend to eventually pursue an advanced practice role as a nurse practitioner or nurse anesthetist, you will absolutely need your BSN first. CRNA programs also require at least a year of recent critical care experience, so you won't want to stray far from the bedside once you have your BSN.

Is your goal to get a raise?

If you're thinking of getting a BSN just to earn more and become more marketable, it helps to have the facts. In many hospitals, there is no wage increase for earning your BSN. Most facilities determine pay based on the job description, more so than the credentials. For instance, the administration looks at market values and determines that RNs at the bedside should make X dollars an hour. Some may add a bit to the hourly wage for a BSN, but many do not; a bedside nurse is a bedside nurse and they are paid as such even with a BSN.

This is certainly something many would like to change, but before that can happen there will need to be a fundamental change in BSN education. Currently, a nurse can earn a BSN in a matter of months online without a single live lecture or any hands-on learning. Few, if any, BSN programs require a clinical component or practicum. There are no advanced clinical skills, no new knowledge significant enough to affect performance at the bedside, and therefore no real justification for an increase in pay. An overhaul to existing BSN programs, including advanced clinicals, might help to change that and make BSNs more marketable.

If you do intend to transition into a higher-paying leadership role with your BSN, go for it; just bear in mind that most management and education roles are salaried, not hourly, so figure that into your calculations. If you're someone who relies on occasional overtime or likes to pick up holidays for the premium pay, these differentials usually don't apply to salaried (aka "exempt") positions.

Are you hoping for a competitive edge in the job market?

If you're trying to get ahead, continuing education and impressive credentials will certainly help. Bear in mind, though, that the BSN is becoming very commonplace now among bedside nurses. Many hospitals strongly encourage, and even require, nurses to obtain a BSN within a certain number of years after hire or in order to apply for transfers within the organization. In the recent past, BSN nurses were in leadership roles as nurse managers, directors of nursing in long-term care, and nursing instructors in diploma and ADN schools. Now that the average bedside nurse has, or is expected to earn their BSN, leadership and advanced roles are requiring even higher levels of education. You should absolutely pursue the degree if you want to advance, but many nurses now are also seeking additional certifications in various specialties like diabetes, oncology, or wound care, in order to stay competitive.

Is money no object?

One more thing any nurse should consider before returning to school is the matter of finances. Some may qualify for federal grants or full scholarships, but most working nurses will end up paying at least part of their tuition and fees out of pocket. If you're lucky enough to get a free ride, take full advantage of it. If you're like most nurses and have to rely on student loans and/or tuition reimbursement, take all the factors into account before you decide. For instance:

What is your current financial situation? Even with student loans and tuition reimbursement, many nurses often have out of pocket expenses for every semester. If your nursing job lands you a certain income bracket, you may only receive partial student loans and have to pay the remainder of tuition yourself. That's something to consider if money is already tight. Also remember that currently, getting your BSN does not guarantee an increase in monthly income. All too often BSNs find themselves in the same job making the same money, but now with a student loan payment to contend with every month.

How close are you to retirement? The repayment period for most student loans is 10 years, so it may not be worth it if you plan to retire in 6. However, if your finances are such that you could pay extra or pay the loan off early, you might want to go ahead.

Are you planning to relocate or change employers after graduation? Employer tuition reimbursement usually exchanges financial aid for months or years of continued service post-graduation. If you leave your employment before the debt is worked off, the benefit has to be paid back to the facility. Read the tuition assistance policies carefully to determine how long you'll need to stay on after graduation and what your payback amount would be should you choose to leave early.

Is your projected BSN salary enough to balance out the student loan debt? Most BSNs end up paying around $240 per month for their student loan after graduation, so bear in mind that you'll need to make at least that much more per month just to break even. The sad truth is that as it stands now, many BSNs find themselves struggling to make that monthly payment when there is no wage increase for earning the extra degree. Leadership roles will usually pay you a bit more, but remember to think about the schedule requirements and exempt/non-exempt status of those positions.

What's the bottom line?

Generally speaking, you almost can't go wrong with more education. The more letters behind your name, the better your resume looks, and there is also a sense of personal achievement. Still, when considering a BSN program, it's important to examine all the pieces: your goals, your finances, your lifestyle and family situations, as well as your likes and dislikes when it comes to work. Do you need to be home with your kids more? Do you rely on overtime or shift differential to make ends meet? Do you love patients but hate paperwork? These are all things to consider.

We all eagerly look forward to the day when the BSN translates to tangible benefits for the average nurse. Sadly, as it stands right now, for many there is no life-changing advantage and the BSN serves only as a stepping stone to an even higher degree or advanced clinical practice. The information here is not meant to discourage anyone from pursuing higher education, only to help put the undergraduate degree and its pros and cons into perspective.

If your facility requires the BSN for bedside nurses, then your choice is simple. However, if you just really love taking care of patients and have no desire to enter leadership or administration, you may fare better with a specialty certification in an area that interests you. The cost is far less, and the BSN does not focus on clinical skills. If you do want to qualify for entry-level leadership and education roles, then the BSN is the way to go. In future we hope to see the BSN carry more weight and offer more leverage, but to do so it must also provide increased skills and greater knowledge. Changes in education are likely the only thing that will translate into changes in benefits. Still, the great thing about nursing is that we have a wide-open, versatile field where there is something for everybody. Hopefully the information included here can help you decide which of those somethings is right for you in your own nursing practice.

Yup that's me!! ADN educated then went back 7 years later for my BSN

I agree the BSN is not for everyone. Wish I didn't do it. It was a higher degree than what I needed.

As an older new RN, BSN who had absolutely no nursing experience (unless you call being a mother as some experience), in hind sight I feel it was a poor choice for me to get my BSN. It was highly recommended to get the BSN as I was told the trend was to hire nurses with this degree. Plus, I'm not getting any younger and wanted to get my education over with. My goal was to be a home-health nurse. I feel an LPN or RN may have been a better move for what I want to do.

Now with my BSN, it was recommended I get 1-2 years med-surg experience prior to getting a home-health position, so that's what I am doing now. I currently dislike med-surg because I am always rushed and behind, and I have no follow-up once the patients are discharged. I'm left wondering how they're doing -- I feel I'm missing the big picture.

A mommy-friend considered nursing. Like me, she does not want to get her masters. She wants to work at a physician's clinic. I discouraged her from getting a BSN as she was wanting a job in a clinic that hires LPN's or RN's (no bsn required), and she could spend less money and time going to the community college to get her LPN or RN.

For me, I spent years to get my BSN (grueling), have lots of student loans, have a job that is unsatisfying, and am unsure if I'll find a job I like in the near future. It's incredibly frustrating. At this moment in time, I regret the choice I made to get my BSN, but I invested so much I must work to pay off my loans. I am hoping in a year from now, I'll have found a home-health job and love it, because this was a lot of work to be so unhappy.

I also understand many new nurses go through this stage of doubt. I hope that's what I'm going through -- a stage that will pass. I hope, each day I go to work, that things will click and I'll enjoy my work on med-surg. Fortunately for me, I have some wonderful staff -- it makes an enormous difference if you work with good folks.

Specializes in M/S, Pulmonary, Travel, Homecare, Psych..

I don't believe my BSN improved my bedside care. Maybe I am benefitting from the education in ways that I don't recognize but I don't see it.

It did give me an upper hand when I was job seeking though. Maybe it's geographical but the ADN career pathway reins as champion still in my area.

I feel I handle and understand the politics of Healthcare better since getting my BSN. I am not sure if it was the BSN that did that or if it was just being more experienced and more mature.

I think ADN still is the degree of choice where I am at mainly because of cost. ADN degrees can be obtained at the local community college. On the other hand, BSN programs will put you in a hole financially. No one wants to spend their careers digging out from under student loans.

Specializes in ER/Trauma, IV Therapy, and nursing management..
subee said:
Why are you assuming that more education reflects a desire to move in management? There are plenty of other positions in nursing that require the perspective the BSN requires. The problem is that there are so many proprietary programs offering such a lousy education to RN's going onto BSN. The degree becomes increasingly cheap and meaningless in the case if these "add on" BSN programs. I can't believe the previous post from someone claiming to be a WORST nurse because of continuing education. Please explain how that happens.

I'm not assuming that at all. You'll see that I recommend BSN nurses for positions above and beyond basic bedside care. I clearly stated in the article and my subsequent comments that the BSN is a must-have for anyone wanting to enter advanced clinical roles. I also said that in my area of the country, if you want to make more money with a BSN, the only option is to move into leadership because our hospitals do not pay bedside nurses more for having a BSN. Diploma RNs, ADNs, and BSNs all make the same pay if they are in the same role. And I wholeheartedly agree that the BSN is cheapened by the diploma mills--that is another of the points I mentioned.

One poster remarked that you cannot get a BSN online in months. My article states that a nurse can earn a BSN in a matter on months online, not a new high school grad. An already-licensed RN absolutely can do it, and I did.

As for the nurse who commented about bedside nursing being worse with a BSN, I can see that. I have seen it. Again, every geographical area is different--another pitfall of nursing being an inconsistent profession. But in my area, I've seen a lot of good nurses come out of an RN-BSN program and believe that they are instantly qualified for certain leadership roles just because they have that degree, and that is unfortunately not always true.

The fact that bedside nurses in my area who earn their BSN get no form of compensation for it--no higher pay, no one-time bonus, nothing--many become very disgruntled and discouraged, and experience the stress and frustration of being more strapped financially as they struggle to pay student loans. They didn't get ahead, they just picked up an extra bill with no extra money to pay it. This frustration and low morale sadly gets passed on to the patients. It's a simple fact that nurses are better when they are happy and feel valued in their role. I'm not saying it's right for any nurse to let her care slip because she feels treated unfairly; I'm saying that it does happen and is inevitable when the entire staff of a unit is forced to go back to school and then receives no benefit or recognition.

I have also seen nurses earn their BSN and then become disheartened when they try to use that new knowledge at the bedside only to get shot down because they're "just a floor nurse." We are encouraged to actively participate in evidence-based practice and self-governance, but I can tell you that for the nurses in my area who tried it, that went nowhere. If they had a good idea, someone higher up the food chain took the credit. Most of the time, their ideas were just summarily dismissed because the hospital already has policies and procedures in place that apply to nurses and nursing care--BSN or not, my facility is not letting bedside nurses affect any real change. If you want to get involved in changing policy, pay, or anything else, then you do have to take your BSN and get into a leadership role. In my area, a bedside nurse is a bedside nurse, with no distinction or deference given to those who hold a BSN as opposed to a diploma or ADN. Is that right? Absolutely not; but that doesn't change it. Right now, in my area, that is the situation.

Specializes in ER/Trauma, IV Therapy, and nursing management..
AutumnApple said:
I think ADN still is the degree of choice where I am at mainly because of cost. ADN degrees can be obtained at the local community college. On the other hand, BSN programs will put you in a hole financially. No one wants to spend their careers digging out from under student loans.

This is exactly what I'm saying. It is especially hard for nurses who may be ten or less years from retirement, and are forced back to school to earn a BSN just to stay in the same bedside job they've done all their nursing lives. Those nurses then have to spend the rest of their careers paying back student loans instead of saving more toward their retirement. Some retire and still have loan balances to contend with; others pay the loans off just in time to retire--so they are not using the degree, and their retirement is less comfortable because they spent $10,000-20,0000+ on school instead of saving that for retirement, paying off other debts, or investing in their financial future.

The landmark IOM report "To Err is Human" is the driving force behind the BSN movement. In essence it states that patients deserve care from the highest educated level nurses possible. The ADN won't go away, but opportunities for employment in acute care settings will diminish. Avenues and access to returning to school for a bachelors degree need to be accessible and available to more ADNs, because the trend isn't going to change. Our profession calls for us to continue to increasing our knowledge and education. Bedside care is only one aspect of nursing. Increasing our education is the key to maintaining the salient image of our profession

Wow...I am in the same situation at the same college. Would like to talk to you about it.

Specializes in ER/Trauma, IV Therapy, and nursing management..
Caroline123 said:
Yup that's me!! ADN educated then went back 7 years later for my BSN

Yes, so you went back with more than 1 year of experience. You were an experienced nurse by the time you earned a BSN. I think that's the way to do it. I went back for my BSN after 8 years as an ADN. By then I had a firm clinical foundation and some life experience as a nurse.

What a lot of us are seeing in my area that we think is not a healthy trend, is that we are seeing new-grad diploma RNs or ADNs come into the field and immediately decide that they hate bedside nursing and don't plan to spend their lives cleaning people up and pushing meds. With practically no experience and miminal clinical skills, they head for the nearest online RN-BSN program that requires no GRE, no ADN with a certain GPA, no inpatient care experience; all they require is that you pay the tuition and fees. A year or two later (or less depending on course load) they come out just as inexperienced and hating nurse work just as much, but now feeling like they're qualified to be the boss of other nurses with far more skills and knowledge. It never goes over well, and I feel that it does a disservice to all involved--the graduate, the patients, and the coworkers.

Specializes in M/S, Pulmonary, Travel, Homecare, Psych..
nurseyblues said:
I'm not assuming that at all. You'll see that I recommend BSN nurses for positions above and beyond basic bedside care. I clearly stated in the article and my subsequent comments that the BSN is a must-have for anyone wanting to enter advanced clinical roles. I also said that in my area of the country, if you want to make more money with a BSN, the only option is to move into leadership because our hospitals do not pay bedside nurses more for having a BSN. Diploma RNs, ADNs, and BSNs all make the same pay if they are in the same role. And I wholeheartedly agree that the BSN is cheapened by the diploma mills--that is another of the points I mentioned.

One poster remarked that you cannot get a BSN online in months. My article states that a nurse can earn a BSN in a matter on months online, not a new high school grad. An already-licensed RN absolutely can do it, and I did.

As for the nurse who commented about bedside nursing being worse with a BSN, I can see that. I have seen it. Again, every geographical area is different--another pitfall of nursing being an inconsistent profession. But in my area, I've seen a lot of good nurses come out of an RN-BSN program and believe that they are instantly qualified for certain leadership roles just because they have that degree, and that is unfortunately not always true.

The fact that bedside nurses in my area who earn their BSN get no form of compensation for it--no higher pay, no one-time bonus, nothing--many become very disgruntled and discouraged, and experience the stress and frustration of being more strapped financially as they struggle to pay student loans. They didn't get ahead, they just picked up an extra bill with no extra money to pay it. This frustration and low morale sadly gets passed on to the patients. It's a simple fact that nurses are better when they are happy and feel valued in their role. I'm not saying it's right for any nurse to let her care slip because she feels treated unfairly; I'm saying that it does happen and is inevitable when the entire staff of a unit is forced to go back to school and then receives no benefit or recognition.

I have also seen nurses earn their BSN and then become disheartened when they try to use that new knowledge at the bedside only to get shot down because they're "just a floor nurse." We are encouraged to actively participate in evidence-based practice and self-governance, but I can tell you that for the nurses in my area who tried it, that went nowhere. If they had a good idea, someone higher up the food chain took the credit. Most of the time, their ideas were just summarily dismissed because the hospital already has policies and procedures in place that apply to nurses and nursing care--BSN or not, my facility is not letting bedside nurses affect any real change. If you want to get involved in changing policy, pay, or anything else, then you do have to take your BSN and get into a leadership role. In my area, a bedside nurse is a bedside nurse, with no distinction or deference given to those who hold a BSN as opposed to a diploma or ADN. Is that right? Absolutely not; but that doesn't change it. Right now, in my area, that is the situation.

True to the ump-teenth degree in my area.

I think that is why people in my area don't bother getting it. Cost and........

The idea that you are qualified for more positions away from the bedside is a more than a bit of a mirage. In my area it is anyway.

In every institution there is a handful of BSN nurses at the bedside hating that they got the degree because......they are still at the bedside. These people turn off other BSN prospects to the idea and.........ADN reigns as champion.

You need an MSN to escape bedside care in my area, if that is your goal.

Specializes in ER/Trauma, IV Therapy, and nursing management..
NurseChristine89 said:
Wow...I am in the same situation at the same college. Would like to talk to you about it.

Hello, and thanks for your interest. I don't think I've been here long enough for private messaging, but please feel free to share your experience here or start a new thread about your experience in BSN school. I'd love to read your comments and hear another BSN/BSN student's perspective.

This is a great article. I have an ADN and have been a bedside L and D RN for almost 30 years. A couple points. Anyone considering going back to school should watch the Frontline on the For Profit education scams and marketing that was recently aired. I have been researching RN-BSN and RN-MSN programs. I became very disgusted with the aggressive marketing of these programs when you try to learn about them. My life experience tells me that anyone who uses tactics like this to sell something is not selling anything worth having. Then I saw the Frontline and it confirmed what my gut was telling me. These schools are all about taking money from vulnerable populations and making money on the loans. If you are going to go back to school I urge nurses to be careful. Do not even considering a for profit school. It's just wrong to support such a predatory industry especially when the role of education in our society has been to level the playing field. I may yet get a BSN or an MSN mostly for personal satisfaction. If I do I want my hard earned dollars and time to go to a non-profit school with a good reputation. You are the consumer when you look at schools beware they prey on fear and the weakest in society.

Specializes in ER/Trauma, IV Therapy, and nursing management..
AutumnApple said:
True to the ump-teenth degree in my area.

In every institution there is a handful of BSN nurses at the bedside hating that they got the degree because......they are still at the bedside. These people turn off other BSN prospects to the idea and.........ADN reigns as champion.

You need an MSN to escape bedside care in my area, if that is your goal.

Yes. It is sad, but true. I know it differs from place to place, but right now the BSN requirement for bedside nurses is unfortunately not helping our nurses in their careers, and is financially and therefore emotionally detrimental.

Thank you for your comments.