Published Jan 22, 2010
GymNurse
18 Posts
If I am involved in the IPN for nurses, would that have any affect on any other professional license?
FLSmitty
33 Posts
Your dealings with IPN are confidential. In the case of non-compliance, IPN will refer the file to the BON with a complaint. At that point, previously protected info may become public record by way of meeting minutes and/or board order.
Board ordered disciplinary action is reported to the National Health Practitioner Data Bank. Any trouble with other licenses would most likely arise via that route.
A suggestion (not to be construed as advice), do what IPN wants.
Smitty
I don't get IPN. I don't understand it's so called philosophy. They claim they need to monitor you but all I seem to understand is that all they are doing is sitting behind a desk dictating your life. They don't seem to comprehend the fact that the majority of nurses involved in this so called intervention program are not working as nurses or working at all for that matter so how are they supposed to pay for everything to stay involved in order to keep a license. I don't see why it should affect any other license because after all it is Intervention Project for NURSES. It is very hard to do what they want when they don't really care that you lost your job, can not get a job, can not pay your bills, everything else that your life was before IPN invaded your life. It is not right that every nurse is treated like some number and given the same contract. I know criminals that have done far worse and have gotten off with a slap on the wrist. If IPN is suppose to help nurses, they why do they seem so insensitive as to everything else besides what they want you to do. They act like they are doing you a favor. Well , they are not. IPN can ruin your life. Not help it.
deedledum
5 Posts
Forgive my ignorance...what fee's are being charged by IPN? I'm new to IPN and everything I have read up on states "there is only an annual fee of $50.00 (for relapse recovery)". Of course, I know the responsibility of recommended treatment is up to each participant, but does IPN also charge seperate fee(s) for participation?
$50.00 for this book: http://www.recoverymaintenance.org/workbook.html after you sign a contract & annually thereafter. the nursing support group facilitator gets $50.00/month from all participants & you pay for all evaluations, treatment & drug testing.
banannabag
22 Posts
I agree with you about feeling like these programs treat you like a criminal. I got put into the program for smoking some pot on vacation far far away from work and now this whole thing has taken over my life for the next three years! I know if i had gotten caught by the law the sentence would have been ALOT less.
sissiesmama, ASN, RN
1,898 Posts
I wish that in Louisiana the only fees we pd were $50. Far from it.
Anne, RNC
LilRedRN1973
1,062 Posts
LOL...I wish mine were that low as well. I pay $50 for each urine drug screen and get chosen AT LEAST once a month (September I hit the lottery and had to test 3 times). I also pay $25 a week for my nurse support group, $15 each week for my Aftercare, $40 each visit for my counselor (I'm ordered to see him twice a month), $25 a month to the Board of Nursing for the duration of my contract (5 years). Thank God my counselor, who also runs my Aftercare, will let me run a tab! Several nurses in his groups (he also runs one of the nurse support groups in the area) owe him some pretty sizeable amounts from all the time they weren't working but were mandated to follow all the requirements. Oh, and of course you can't forget the $50 each time you request a meeting with the DAC (Disability Advisory Committee) to ask for your license back, your narcotic privileges returned, the ability to work more than 40 hours a week, and the ability to be left "in charge". Be thankful if that is all you have to pay! I will say, though, the $300 or so I pay each month is a small price to pay for my sobriety and being able to retain my license. I'm very grateful.
What would be the chances of IPN finding out if i got a job? or what if a hospital hired me and i did not tell them i was invovled in IPN? How would anyone be able to find out that information?
exnursie
86 Posts
I would not risk my license just to work as a nurse, and you will lose it when they find out. They have ability to see any government site, like IRS, and HHS ( social security). ALso, you could have legal charges for falsifying your license status from an employer.
Not to mention that the program of recovery is one based on rigorous honesty. I am amazed all the time at how often those old thoughts creep back into my head and realize how much they kept me sick. Stupid things like making excuses about why I was late going somewhere. I used to just make stuff up on the spur of the moment and now I simply tell the truth "I apologize for being late. I lost track of time and didn't leave when I was supposed to. In the future, I will make an effort to keep a better eye on the time". Because even though I would probably get away with saying "I was late because as I was walking out the door, the baby had a poopy diaper and I had to change it" or "I got pulled over on the way here" (both of those I used frequently), I would know I was lying and it would eat me up inside, leading to a resentment towards myself. And we all know where resentments lead us to.....
I know if I had tried to work without being upfront, it would eat me up inside. Was it tempting? Of course. But I've come to the conclusion that I feel a lot better about myself when I am just truthful from the beginning. And of course, as exnursie stated, you would be risking your license by doing that. Not worth your sobriety as well as your license.
Not to mention that the program of recovery is one based on rigorous honesty. I am amazed all the time at how often those old thoughts creep back into my head and realize how much they kept me sick. Stupid things like making excuses about why I was late going somewhere. I used to just make stuff up on the spur of the moment and now I simply tell the truth "I apologize for being late. I lost track of time and didn't leave when I was supposed to. In the future, I will make an effort to keep a better eye on the time". Because even though I would probably get away with saying "I was late because as I was walking out the door, the baby had a poopy diaper and I had to change it" or "I got pulled over on the way here" (both of those I used frequently), I would know I was lying and it would eat me up inside, leading to a resentment towards myself. And we all know where resentments lead us to.....I know if I had tried to work without being upfront, it would eat me up inside. Was it tempting? Of course. But I've come to the conclusion that I feel a lot better about myself when I am just truthful from the beginning. And of course, as exnursie stated, you would be risking your license by doing that. Not worth your sobriety as well as your license.
I too am late alot!! And my brain still goes into the desire to lie, after 14 yrs clean... I know that it is ok to just tell the truth and if people don't like that I was just not paying attention to the time... I can deal with it...and lying is the lazy way out and I too don't feel right when I do it.