1. I am a masters educated NP from the US. I am hoping in the next month to work on applying for positions here in the UK.
    I did find a post today for an Emergency Nurse Practitioner locally.

    I have all of the "Essential" requirements. But the "desirable" are UK courses. How important are these to have and is there a way for me to consider taking one of these courses? or is this something that might be offered once a position is accepted?

    Essential Desirable
    • Registered Nurse/Practitioner
    • BSc in Nursing or related subject (or studying towards)
    • Evidence of post registration education
    • Evidence of advanced clinical competence including range of extended skills and current ALS and/or ATLS/PALS certificate
    • ENB199
    • ENB998 or equivalent
    • Further Management related qualification/training

    Thanks for any input you have!
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  3. by   XB9S
    Desirable depend very much on the competition. If I shortlist and there are lots of suitable candidates I will look at who fills essential first round then narrow down with desirable. I will generally try to interview no more than 6 for one position although not always possible if there are lots of good candidates.
  4. by   NoleNurse2000
    Thanks XB9S!Maybe you can answer another question for me. This NP job is posted now. Posting closes at the end of the month. I am due to take my ONP course (theory only) in feb. is it worth it to go ahead and apply. Without having my PIN yet? Would you look twice at a great candidate of a position who is 1 mo away from getting her pin?Another question. There have been no job postings at my local GP surgery centre. (6 practices in 1 building). I thought it might be worth it just to send my CV to them just in case they might consider. Us this recommended? Or frowned upon? Best way to do it- mail/drop off in person to a practice manager?Ty!!!!
  5. by   XB9S
    That's a tricky one, at the moment you don't meet the essential criteria, but I manage a team of ANP's and I'd love to have you on board.

    My advice would be to contact the recruiting manager and ask if they will accept your application pending successful registration. It'll take a week to shortlist (depending on how busy the manager is) 2 more weeks at least before interview would take place as its good practice to give 2 weeks notice of interview.
    It's worth a try
  6. by   NoleNurse2000
    Emailed the recruiting Sister. Very nice and encouraging. She offered me a tour of the unit. She did state that they do plan to fill the position from within. So, even if I get the application in and dazzle them, I think they already know the candidate they want and just had to post the job (the US does this as well).

    She did let me know that there are several Band 5 openings for a staff nurse in the A&E. They are for 6 months currently with the "view of making permenant." She also thought this would be a good way for me to get my feet wet with UK nursing.
    Ultimately I hope to wow them with my training and skills and in 6 months work on a NP position!

    I am looking at the online application. A band 5 post salary range is: 21,176 to 27,625 per annum (which is 40% less than I made as an RN 7 years ago in the UK. =0 I know I am not going to be able to compare those. I live here now and have to deal with the current pay)

    1. Where would I fit on that Band 5 scale? Masters degree with 11+ post nursing education experience - however, NO UK experience.

    I have for the past 5 years (since I became a mum) worked 3 days/week. And worked at an hourly rate (learned for abuse of being over worked and under paid in my first NP position!)

    2. Should I put my salary in POUNDS (although i was paid in $)

    3. Should I multiply out what it would be "per annum" or put the hourly rate I was paid?

  7. by   ZippyGBR
    Nole depending on the rationale your manager puts to HR you could be paid at any point in band 5 if you took a band 5 role, HR may well push for bottom increment , hopefully a decent manager with support from senior nursing management would be able to push for first gateway at least based on your experience.

    AFC terms and conditions allow them to drop people back to the first increment after one year away from the NHS, although in the past this was rarely done especially if people had been working as an RN during any gap in service, but as there is pay bill pressure at present
  8. by   XB9S
    As zippy has said you could be placed anywhere on the scale, but your manager would have to put a very good case for reckonable service. It's not impossible but will be a challenge.

    I've recently done it with a nurse who had returned to.practice after 10 years and I really had to fight my corner to get prior knowledge and experience recognised.

    Put previous salary in pounds.
  9. by   NoleNurse2000
    Thanks for the help!

    I went for an informal tour of the A&E 2 weeks ago with the Senior Sister. Spent an hour on the tour (small place compared to what I am used to) and chatting. She thinks this staff nurse position (band5) might be a good stepping stone to get me in to the NHS and understand their system. They have been hoping to add another ENP position, and possibly an APN role. (hopeful!)

    Today I got a request to come in for an interview next week.

    Is there any hot topic I should study up on?

    (btw- Haven't discussed money yet, but the interview request asked for my last 3 pay stubs! HAHA! MY US hourly pay as a NP in urgent care!)
  10. by   mrscat
    have only just seen this post, how did you get on?
  11. by   NoleNurse2000
    Just got gin from the interview. Went well. Hot topic question was how do I view the 4 hr rule (good thing I had that tour and she told me about it!!), also confidentiality. I will hear in 24 hrs they said. But I am debating another Job posting I got last night. It's for a practice nurse- feelings on that subject anyone?
  12. by   XB9S
    Sorry I'd missed your previous post. Sounds like the visit stood you in good stead.

    Practice nursing, I guess it depends what you want, they may want prior experience and usually ask for chronic disease management experience.
  13. by   Silverdragon102
    I was a practice nurse for 4 years and loved it, was nice working mon-fri with every weekend and bank holiday off Lots of scope to do different things like chronic care management, immunisations both child and adult, paps to say a few
  14. by   mrscat
    Currently work as a practice nurse in a GP surgery part time. Very very different from hospital envirnoment, but very rewarding and interesting and a very steep learning curve. If your going to be employed by the GP practice themselves you will have to negotiate your rate of pay, sickness pay, annual leave,etc, not all GP's follow the NHS Agenda for Change pay scales and Terms and Conditions.
    Be aware of what the job involves. You will have to give the childhood immunisations, some GP's give travel vaccinations too. You will be undertaking smear tests on patients. If you have the qualifications you will undertake family planning. Lastly you will be reasponsible for the QOF points. So you will be undertaking all the chronic disease mangement, CHD, diabetes, COPD, Asthma, mental health, etc plus lots of other bits and bobs.
    With the government changing the way the health service is funded you will need to be aware of this as well.
    Will you be in a large practice with other practice nurses to help supervise or will you be on your own?
    The remit of a practice nurse is very wide and varied but you get to know your patients. As long as you have a supportive GP and Practice Manager everything should fall into place. If there not supportive it can be hell