Published May 15, 2012
sls73
96 Posts
A resident goes out to the hospital on private pay and returns 3 days later as a Medicare Part A. She is admitted 3/27 and they complete a 5D assessment on 4/2/2012. Her 14D assessment was completed on 4/9/2012 and her 30D assessment was completed 4/24/2012. Sounds good so far.....
Upon investigation it was determined that the 5D assessment was combined with an admission assessment versus a significant change in status as the reason for the assessment which means the HIPPS code is wrong. She was not a brand new admission she was re-admitted to the facility.
So, do I have to inactivate this assessment and bill default despite the fact that the PPS assessment type is right(it is a 5D and should be). The ARD is also correct. If yes, how far do I bill default- to the 14D assessment kicks in or all the way till today? And last but not least do I just complete a new 5D with a sig change or do I also have to re-do the 14D and 30D if I am defaulting through those assessments.
Sorry for my confusion- I am not the RNAC, just filling in.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Talino
1,010 Posts
If the discharge was “return anticipated” the assm’t submitted was indeed incorrect.
Ironically, even though the 5-day was correct, the combined Admission cannot be inactivated separately. Hence, you will be compelled to do an entirely new assm’t (5-day/SCSA) w/ today’s ARD and all info ending on this observation date. The 5-day, being late, will only be paid the default RUG from DOA until the 14th day. Document this oversight since your SCSA will now be more than 14 days from the actual day it was identified. Retain the original care plan dates. Retain the assessment in error/inactivated. Expect warnings when submitting the new MDS.
The 14-day and 30-day are not affected. Bill accordingly.
Your situation is one harsh example the new rule “bestows” on the industry. Unless you have a high-end full-featured software to edit every detail of an assessment or dedicated co-workers to triple check, you may want to recruit your relatives to participate in checking the accuracy of your dates and assessment types. Albeit, this would be an excellent role for the Administrator to partake!
Thanks! Are you combining your 5D with the sig change? I read in an AANAC newsletter that CMS is billing default rates if you combine these two assessments- due to a computer glitch. I wasn't sure if it was better to split the two apart and submit separately until they fix it or not.
Curious to see what the say at the open forum on the 24th. Last I heard they had no resolution to the issue.
If it is, you wouldn't want to go through that turmoil.
However, in your scenario, you are completing a 5 day with a new ARD that is way outside the window. Combined or not, you will still get paid the default rate for the 14 days.
andy3k
124 Posts
Regarding the default for SCSA/5-day: CMS staff responded that this is not a glitch but simply CMS following Medicare billing guidelines and the effect of combining a SCSA with a PPS 5-day or return/readmit with an ARD of days 1-5.
A SCSA ARD must be set between day 1 and day 14 after determination the criteria is met. Therefore, staff do not have to combine it if the ARD for their 5 day or readmission PPS MDS is days 1-5. When a resident returns to the facility to begin a Medicare Part A stay, sometimes it is determined that a SCSA MDS is due. If staff does not want an AAA default RUG up to the ARD of their 5 day or readmission PPS MDS, staff need to:
1. Set the SCSA ARD for day 6, 7 or 8 and combine with the 5 day/readmission, or
2. Set the ARD for the 5 day/readmission on day 1,2,3,4 or 5 and set the SCSA ARD for day 9, 10, 11 or 12 and also check A0310B=07, or
3. Set the ARD for the 5 day/readmission on day 1,2,3,4 or 5 and set the SCSA ARD for day 13 or 14 and combine with the 14 day.
Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
imkaren2
28 Posts
I'm wondering what other MDS and CCMs are doing in the case where your medicare patients are admitted late friday after you go home and are discharged to the hospital or expire before you return on monday and you aren't able to set and ARD.
Are you taking the default days, are the floor nurses setting the ARDs for you, are the unit managers, DONs setting the ARDs?
We are being asked now to plan for this after being taken off salary, we don't work weekends so I'mm looking for a plan. thanks!
The ARD can be set and/or adjusted at any time as long as you're within the permitted ARD window. Hence, when you come in on Monday, you can set the ARD on the day or before DC or death.
In instances when the ARD window (including grace days) ends on a Sunday or a holiday and the ARD has not been set yet, there is no reason why an on-duty nurse cannot assume the responsibilty. The facility, however, should have a policy in place.
This scenario is very common with unscheduled PPS assessments. Since MDS is a teamed-based assm't, it is not a bad idea to have the therapist set the ARD, too.
And a reminder that setting the ARD requires that it be documented on an official MDS form, paper or electronic, along with enough information to identify the resident and assessment e.g. SSN and Reason for Assessment.
I thought so too but after reading the RAI in ch 2, it appears that the ARD needs to be set prior to d/c. Our company has stated that and I'm reading it that way also. Only then you are able to modify the ARD to the d/c date.
The RAI is saying that once the pt no longer is a med A pt hence is d/c you are no longer able to set the ARD.
I'd love it if someone else would read it and give me another interpretation. Thanks for anyones help!
Clarification on Adjusting the ARD for a Scheduled Medicare MDS
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) staff have clarified that when a resident on a Medicare Part A stay is discharged, the Assessment Reference Date (ARD) of a scheduled Medicare Prospective Payment System (PPS) assessment may be adjusted to the day the resident is discharged only when the ARD for the scheduled PPS assessment was set prior to the day of discharge. From page A-26 of the MDS 3.0 RAI Manual " When the resident dies or is discharged prior to the end of the look-back period for a required assessment, the ARD must be adjusted to equal the discharge date."
The ARD should be adjusted on the day of discharge or as soon thereafter as facility staff becomes aware the resident has been discharged. However, in all cases, the ARD must be adjusted no later than day 14 after discharge. As mandated on pages 2-44 and 2-45 of the MDS 3.0 RAI Manual and applicable to all required Medicare PPS MDS, " Must be completed (Item Z0500B) within 14 days after the ARD (ARD + 14 days)." Beyond 14 days after discharge, the scheduled PPS assessment becomes a missed assessment.
The following three scenarios illustrate this guidance:
Scenario One: Facility staff set an ARD for day 8 for a PPS 5 day. On day 5, the resident was discharged. On the day of discharge or 1 to 14 days after discharge, staff can adjust the ARD to day 5, as long as the PPS MDS is completed no more than 14 days after the adjusted ARD.
Scenario Two: Facility staff set an ARD for day 18 for a PPS 14 day. On day 17, the resident was discharged. Fifteen or more days after discharge, staff can NOT adjust the ARD to day 17.
Scenario Three: Facility staff had a resident admitted for a Medicare Part A stay. Facility staff never set an ARD in the facility MDS software or on an MDS item set for a PPS 5-day. On day 3, the resident was discharged. Facility staff can NOT adjust the ARD to day 3 because there is no ARD to adjust. From page 2-72 of the MDS 3.0 RAI Manual:
"If the SNF fails to set the ARD prior to the end of the last day of the ARD window, including grace days, and the resident was already discharged from Medicare Part A when this is discovered, the provider cannot complete an assessment for SNF PPS purposes and the days cannot be billed to Part A. An existing OBRA assessment (except a stand-alone discharge assessment) in the QIES ASAP system when specific circumstances are met may be used to bill for some Part A days. See chapter 6, Section 6.8 for greater detail."
Source: DADS Provider News, Alerts & Bulletins viewer linked from Texas MDS (DADS)
yes, thats exactly what the RAI says, I didn't have my hands on it at the time but knew that...so my question was how are other facilities handling that? I know I am not working around the clock!