City Colleges of Chicago and HESI exit exam - page 6
hello, everyone! good morning. i have a classmate here with me and she would like to make several comments based on her experience with our school and the hesi exam. please, be kind with your... Read More
May 24, '10Joined: May '10; Posts: 20; Likes: 4Thank You, We are a big group working together. Please pass it on to nursing students and working nurses. We need all the support we can get.
May 24, '10From: US ; Joined: Jun '09; Posts: 162; Likes: 8I already signed the petition and I hope it will pass. I am very possitive about it.
Jun 21, '10Joined: Jun '10; Posts: 2I have heard from a few people that as a result of the protest, HESI was cancelled. When I contacted the school the other day, the reply was that the retake is still on. Wondering if that is being said until decisions are finalized or is this all just a bunch of rumors?
Jun 21, '10Joined: May '10; Posts: 20; Likes: 4No, Hesi being cancelled is not a rumor!!! It is in the works. We are just waiting for the letter.
Jun 21, '10Joined: Jun '10; Posts: 6Hi we're doing petitions against city colleges of chicago...this is the link, you can post and forward to ur friends and classmates... i heard the chancellor and the presidents will be having a meeting about this on june 25..
To all my fellow nursing students;
This email is a petition for all Nursing Students, all Future Nursing Students, and All Future Registered Nurses...
Let us change the Standard of HESI Exit Examination for Nursing Students of the City Colleges of Chicago. Several reasons why we should change the standard of HESI Exit Examination in the City Colleges of Chicago:
The HESI Exit Examination is not standardized in the State of Illinois . It does not exist in other Nursing Schools in the State of Illinois . The HESI Exit Examination is not even standardized and much better has been abolished in other States of the United States .
Evolve Elsevier is using HESI Exit Examination to evaluate nursing student's competency and to prepare them for the NCLEX-RN which is the standard for all nurses. However, it is not guaranteed that those who have passing score on the HESI Exit Exam will also pass the NCLEX-RN for the first time. Therefore, the HESI Exit Examination should only be used to evaluate students so they can strengthen their area of weakness. It should not be used as an instrument to hold the nursing students from achieving their associate or bachelor's degree in nursing.
The HESI Exit Exam is not a part of the nursing curriculum. It should not be a reason to deny nursing students participation to their Pinning Ceremony and Graduation Ceremony.
HESI is HESI and NCLEX is NCLEX. Nursing students should have a proper HESI review. Do not give an NCLEX-RN review for a HESI Exit Examination. It does not make any sense.
All Nursing Students should have at least 4 weeks of preparation for the HESI Exit Exam not 3 days.
Graduates of Nursing are allowed to take NCLEX-RN exam indefinitely. All Nursing Students should be given a fair chance to pass the HESI Exit Exam that should not be limited to two (2) attempts only.
All Nursing Schools in the City Colleges of Chicago should have similar version of HESI Exit Examination. Otherwise, it is a bias discrimination.
Nursing Students who are in ADN program should only have ADN HESI Exit Examination not a BSN HESI Exit Examination.
We need your complete cooperation, participation, unity and support!!!
Please forward this email to all nursing students that you know.
Jun 21, '10Joined: Jun '10; Posts: 6and here is the petition link...PETITION link:
Let Us Change the City Colleges of Chicago Academic Policy for the Nursing Program Petition
Jun 25, '10Joined: Jun '10; Posts: 6woooohooooooo city colleges of chicago RN class 2010 made it!!
Jun 26, '10Joined: Jun '10; Posts: 2meaning that it was officially cancelled? if so that's GREAT news, but what happens from here?
Jun 26, '10Joined: May '10; Posts: 20; Likes: 4the hesi exam is officially abolished and we are now all able to graduate!!! students that should have graduated in may 2010 will graduate on aug. 11 2010. the other students from 2005-2009 are given another date. it did not happen over night. it was a group effort from students from malclom x college that made it happen. i was involved in that group. we started on this process a week after may 10th. we made flyers, we protested, and we met with the chancellor and her cheif of staff. we addressed all our concerns. we also did research on the exam and provided documents on the exam and how it was being abused. we asked help from other students from other city colleges. some students from olive harvey came out to help us in our quest. most students from other schools criticized us and said, " nothing will happen... it's a waste of time".
" they do this type of stuff every year".
still we did not give up!!! i thank my group and especially our group leader almarie who organized the whole thing. i'm am sooo happy that i was a part of this accomplishment . i thank the chancellor for listening to us and making this happen. she is an amazing person!!!!
this is proof that dreams do happen as long as people stay determined and never give up!!!
check your ccc e-mail.
here is the official letter
[color=#2e3436]june 25, 2010
to: ccc nursing students - class of 2010
from: chancellor cheryl l. hyman
re: nursing comprehensive examination
first, let me thank you for sharing your concerns and experiences about
the nursing program and bringing the issues surrounding the
comprehensive examination to my attention. i appreciate your
professionalism and the research you have provided on this issue. your
persistence and determination are great attributes that will serve you
well in your careers.
after consultation with the college presidents and review of national
policies and best practices relating to , i have made a
decision about the issues you have shared with me. my concerns for all
programs at city colleges of chicago are outcomes and student success,
so i will be involved in evaluating the district's nursing programs to
ensure that there is a quality curriculum and students are prepared for
the city's nursing jobs. this will not all be done in a short time,
but i assure you that positive changes will occur.
there were some inconsistencies in the timing at which students were
asked to sign acknowledgments of the city colleges of chicago academic
policy pertaining to the nursing comprehensive examination this year,
and the best solution is to allow the 2010 class to receive their
degrees. therefore, students who were enrolled under the current
policy and on track to graduate in may 2010 will be allowed to obtain
their associate in applied science degree in nursing. the official
degree completion date will be may 2010. the deadline date for applying
for graduation is friday, july 30th, 2010. the nursing directors at
your college will be available to assist you in this process. for
students completing this summer 2010, they will be required to complete
the required comprehensive review and test according to their summer
schedule. this policy change will only apply to students who've
successfully completed the nursing program in calendar year 2010, former
nursing students will be addressed later in this document. i will
continue to review other preparatory courses and to consult experts to
ensure that we have high standards in the program.
in order to obtain their degrees, students will need to meet all of the
requirements for the associate in applied science degree in nursing and
must apply for graduation. there is no fee for applying for graduation
or participation in the ceremony. the degree criteria require a total of
70 credit hours: 14 hours of prerequisites, 41 hours of nursing core
courses, and 15 hours of general education courses. once the applied
science application has been approved by the college, the student will
then be eligible to receive his or her nursing state board application.
the college will assist you with this process. we have planned a summer
graduation ceremony and pinning on august 11, 2010 at malcolm x college
for you and your families. the event will start at 6:30 p.m. there is
no limit on the number of friends and family who can attend the
ceremony. please rsvp with your nursing director if you plan on
participating in the ceremony. you will receive more detailed
information about the graduation from the nursing directors. i strongly
encourage you to work hard to prepare for the state nursing examination
and to take a review course, offered by ccc. ccc is offering a state
licensure test-taking and review course this summer at no cost to
students. for those enrolled, we encourage you to stay in the course
and to continue to enhance your skills for the state nursing
examination. if you are interested, please ask the nursing director for
the schedule. students are welcome to attend the day or evening
the presidents and i have been researching best practices and have
found that some nursing programs use different products for exit exams
while others use them for assessment. i am still in the evaluation
stage, so there has been no decision about how hesi or any other
examination will be used in the future. for students who have completed
the program between 2005 and 2010, there will be a one- time amnesty
based on the following criteria: completion of all nursing course
requirements for the catalogue year of entrance to nursing program,
completion of graduation requirements for an associates in applied
science degree according to catalogue year, completion of a nursing
review course (at the student's cost) between now and december 31,
2010, and that the student owes no debt to the city colleges of chicago.
students who want to participate in the nclex review this summer july
14, 15, and 16th at mxc will need to let their nursing director know by
july 9, 2010. in order to receive the certificate of completion, the
student will need to participate the entire three days of the review.
amnesty students will need to identify themselves to the appropriate
director of nursing by september 1, 2010 and will have until december
31, 2010 to complete the above requirements.
if you have any questions about these changes, please send an email to
me or talk to the president of your college. the presidents have been
very involved in this process and want you to be successful. i will be
working very closely with them on this issue. again, thank you for
choosing the city colleges of chicago to obtain your nursing degree and
thank you for bringing to my attention issues related to our program.
good luck and i look forward to seeing you at graduation.
Jun 26, '10Joined: May '10; Posts: 20; Likes: 4GRETCH26: Thanks for posting our petition and passing it on. I thank Rico from our group for making that. Well we wont be needing it now!!!!
Jun 26, '10Occupation: RN Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in OR and Neuro ; Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 5I attended Malcolm X College nursing program and graduated in 2007. We had access to all of the HESI practice exams towards the end of our 2nd Med Surg rotation. Two days were allotted to practice all of the HESI exams (psych, ob, med surg, etc) which was not the best way to present the material. I understand Truman College has all students take HESI after every course to see how students are scoring, which is an appropriate strategy.
I agree with the concept of HESI. Since it is imperative that students pass NCLEX on the 1st attempt for accreditation I can understand why CCC wants to make sure students will pass NCLEX. I don't agree with the limits they place on the number of times students can take HESI. They should let students take it as many times necessary to pass, and just charge the students every time to take it.
I passed HESI on my first attempt, but studied A LOT outside of class with NCLEX review materials. All of the students shared the CDRoms with NCLEX prep questions so everyone had access to the same learning materials. Part of it is anxeity; it is tremendously stressful to sit for HESI knowing that if you fail you could very well fail out of the program which has taken up so much time and money. Another part of it is the student's preparation, the tests administered during the semesters are unlike the HESI; but it is up to the student to supplement their learning.
I support the use of HESI by CCC, but I definitely agree that their pass or fail policy is too harsh.
Jun 27, '10Joined: May '10; Posts: 20; Likes: 4We were not against the Hesi exam either. We were against the way it was being used against the students and ruining their lives. I am so happy that since the policy has changed , many students will get their degrees and move on with their lives.