City Colleges of Chicago and HESI exit exam

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hello, everyone! good morning. i have a classmate here with me and she would like to make several comments based on her experience with our school and the hesi exam. please, be kind with your replies. please. note, this is her opinion and her experiences! lets respect that. thank you!

[color=#333333]the academic staff at one of the city colleges of chicago awarded me my grades, which indicates mastery of their nursing program.

[color=#333333]i was unsuccessful with the hesi exit exam, an exam that was utilized to protect their own pass rates two months before my graduation. the city colleges of chicago is implementing this exam only as an obstacle to prevent myself and other qualified classmates from taking the nclex rn exam. this strategy shows only one design, and that is only to give an artificially inflated pass rate for the school. which indicates that the city colleges of chicago lacks concern of the success of their students, but is only concern in protecting their own pass rates. i am not arguing the importance of appropriate and relevant testings. but the city colleges of chicago is using this exam to deny me and other classmates who have successfully completed the academic program the opportunity to graduate and sit for boards.

it all boils down to the city colleges of chicago not having confidence in their own academic program. they are trying to bolster their nclex pass rates by eliminating me and other classmates from the test pool. if they have legitimate reason to question me and other students' ability to pass nclex, then why have i passed all of their nursing classes? if i had any unsatisfactory performance i should have been weeded out of the program long before completing the program! i provided above standard care of my patients and received excellent evaluations/competency from my instructors for the two years that i was in the program. my family and i sacrificed a lot. i completed the program, and paid my tuitions. my score was 85%, which indicates the probability by percentage of passing the state boards exam (nclex rn). olive harvey college stated they will not allow me to sit for boards or give me my nursing degree unless i scored 87% or above. the hesi exam is not a competency exam. only the nclex rn is the nationally recognized competency exam. i have accumulated over 100 college credit hours and most are nursing. nursing courses are not transferable. there over 1 ½ yr. long waiting list in other nursing programs. i am in debt from college loans and with no degree to show for it. does this sound fair to you?

in simple terms what am i talking about?

what is the hesi exit exam? its an exam that determines the probability by percentage if you will pass the nclex rn exam. it is also used for both the faculty and students, to determine the student and nursing curriculum of their areas of weakness. in other words, it's a probability and assessment exam.

for example, there are 43 students who completed the nursing program. out of the 43 students only three passed the hesi exit exam. out the three who passed the hesi exit exam, only two passed the nclex rn exam. now, the school can state that they have 99% nclex pass rate. according to the state requirement, if nursing programs can show they have above 87% nclex first time test taker pass rate (i think that the%) they can attain more money from the state and it will bait more investors. but, what nobody knows is that, the 40 students who completed the program, cannot attain their nursing degree or take the nclex rn exam. those 40 students are left with nothing but a student loan, low self esteem, and humiliation. four years of nursing school down the drain.

one more thing, there are seven colleges within the city colleges of chicago. therefore, if there are 40 students who were unsuccessful, that would not include all the other six colleges. you can assume, 40 students times 6 colleges. plus, students graduate in december and may. that's 240 students times 2. you do the math. my classmates have been without their earned degree since 2006. i can assure you, currently, this sort of deceptive practice is still occurring city college wide. those students who were not successful, were abandoned by the school.

another thing, the city college policy is so subjective. they chose who can and cannot re-take the hesi exam. nobody knows how and why, but its true.

here is the kicker. you can take the nclex rn exam, according to the state licensing board up to twelve times within three years. but, the city colleges of chicago only counts those students who will pass nclex rn exam the first time. the second time test takers don't count. i wonder how many excellent doctors, and lawyers passed their boards the first time? i would like to hear from other city colleges of chicago nursing students who are going through this. we need to get together democratically and voice our concerns. this sort of diagnostic test is not being utilized in medical school. mayor daley i hope you will read this. how many times did it take you to pass your bar exam?

there are a lot of issues and concerns regarding the punitive uses of this exam. the creator of hesi, susan morrison has stated herself that she did not create these exams for punitive reasons, but as a learning tool. i hope i have a few supporters regarding this issue. if the city colleges of chicago truly wanted their students to be successful, they should have utilized the hesi exam throughout the curriculum and not just at the end. it should have been implemented after each nursing course, which will give the student familiarity base, and used accordingly as an assessment tool for both the faculty and student. why did they have to wait until we have completed the program? can you imagine? you received you final grades, than for the school to tell you, "oh by the way, you have to take another test, if you don't pass this one, you will not get your nursing degree and you won't be able sit for your licensing board?"

i would like nothing more than your support. help my classmates, please. if you have any question please ask away. you can research this issue, there are a lot of students who have voiced their concerns. i am afraid this sort of deceptive practice is becoming a trend with most nursing programs. other programs, have taken accountability and fixed their mistakes. unfortunately, the city colleges of chicago have not. i doubt that they will.

contact mayor daley, senator dick durbin, reporters, past, current students, nurses and anyone else you can think of to attend and advocate us. please!

the next board meeting will be held thursday, may 7, 2009 at 9:00 a.m. room 300 district office, 226 west jackson boulevard, chicago, il 60606.

my classmates and i do not have anymore money to take them to court and we don't have the resources. telling our story is all i, we have. i pray a savior will come. i have faith in the lord in the people. mind you, we are not asking for a free-ride. we asking for what we worked hard for - the opportunity to take the nclex rn exam.

i am sorry if this is so lengthy. i am sure that some of you can understand how much pain i am in. i and my classmates are suffering fiancially. please, help us.

woooohooooooo city colleges of chicago RN class 2010 made it!!

meaning that it was officially cancelled? if so that's GREAT news, but what happens from here?

the hesi exam is officially abolished and we are now all able to graduate!!! students that should have graduated in may 2010 will graduate on aug. 11 2010. the other students from 2005-2009 are given another date. it did not happen over night. it was a group effort from students from malclom x college that made it happen. i was involved in that group. we started on this process a week after may 10th. we made flyers, we protested, and we met with the chancellor and her cheif of staff. we addressed all our concerns. we also did research on the exam and provided documents on the exam and how it was being abused. we asked help from other students from other city colleges. some students from olive harvey came out to help us in our quest. most students from other schools criticized us and said, " nothing will happen... it's a waste of time".

" they do this type of stuff every year".

still we did not give up!!! i thank my group and especially our group leader almarie who organized the whole thing. i'm am sooo happy that i was a part of this accomplishment . i thank the chancellor for listening to us and making this happen. she is an amazing person!!!!

this is proof that dreams do happen as long as people stay determined and never give up!!!

check your ccc e-mail.

here is the official letter

[color=#2e3436]june 25, 2010

to: ccc nursing students - class of 2010

from: chancellor cheryl l. hyman

re: nursing comprehensive examination

first, let me thank you for sharing your concerns and experiences about

the nursing program and bringing the issues surrounding the

comprehensive examination to my attention. i appreciate your

professionalism and the research you have provided on this issue. your

persistence and determination are great attributes that will serve you

well in your careers.

after consultation with the college presidents and review of national

policies and best practices relating to nursing programs, i have made a

decision about the issues you have shared with me. my concerns for all

programs at city colleges of chicago are outcomes and student success,

so i will be involved in evaluating the district's nursing programs to

ensure that there is a quality curriculum and students are prepared for

the city's nursing jobs. this will not all be done in a short time,

but i assure you that positive changes will occur.

there were some inconsistencies in the timing at which students were

asked to sign acknowledgments of the city colleges of chicago academic

policy pertaining to the nursing comprehensive examination this year,

and the best solution is to allow the 2010 class to receive their

degrees. therefore, students who were enrolled under the current

policy and on track to graduate in may 2010 will be allowed to obtain

their associate in applied science degree in nursing. the official

degree completion date will be may 2010. the deadline date for applying

for graduation is friday, july 30th, 2010. the nursing directors at

your college will be available to assist you in this process. for

students completing this summer 2010, they will be required to complete

the required comprehensive review and test according to their summer

schedule. this policy change will only apply to students who've

successfully completed the nursing program in calendar year 2010, former

nursing students will be addressed later in this document. i will

continue to review other preparatory courses and to consult experts to

ensure that we have high standards in the program.

in order to obtain their degrees, students will need to meet all of the

requirements for the associate in applied science degree in nursing and

must apply for graduation. there is no fee for applying for graduation

or participation in the ceremony. the degree criteria require a total of

70 credit hours: 14 hours of prerequisites, 41 hours of nursing core

courses, and 15 hours of general education courses. once the applied

science application has been approved by the college, the student will

then be eligible to receive his or her nursing state board application.

the college will assist you with this process. we have planned a summer

graduation ceremony and pinning on august 11, 2010 at malcolm x college

for you and your families. the event will start at 6:30 p.m. there is

no limit on the number of friends and family who can attend the

ceremony. please rsvp with your nursing director if you plan on

participating in the ceremony. you will receive more detailed

information about the graduation from the nursing directors. i strongly

encourage you to work hard to prepare for the state nursing examination

and to take a review course, offered by ccc. ccc is offering a state

licensure test-taking and review course this summer at no cost to

students. for those enrolled, we encourage you to stay in the course

and to continue to enhance your skills for the state nursing

examination. if you are interested, please ask the nursing director for

the schedule. students are welcome to attend the day or evening

sessions.

the presidents and i have been researching best practices and have

found that some nursing programs use different products for exit exams

while others use them for assessment. i am still in the evaluation

stage, so there has been no decision about how hesi or any other

examination will be used in the future. for students who have completed

the program between 2005 and 2010, there will be a one- time amnesty

based on the following criteria: completion of all nursing course

requirements for the catalogue year of entrance to nursing program,

completion of graduation requirements for an associates in applied

science degree according to catalogue year, completion of a nursing

review course (at the student's cost) between now and december 31,

2010, and that the student owes no debt to the city colleges of chicago.

students who want to participate in the nclex review this summer july

14, 15, and 16th at mxc will need to let their nursing director know by

july 9, 2010. in order to receive the certificate of completion, the

student will need to participate the entire three days of the review.

amnesty students will need to identify themselves to the appropriate

director of nursing by september 1, 2010 and will have until december

31, 2010 to complete the above requirements.

if you have any questions about these changes, please send an email to

me or talk to the president of your college. the presidents have been

very involved in this process and want you to be successful. i will be

working very closely with them on this issue. again, thank you for

choosing the city colleges of chicago to obtain your nursing degree and

thank you for bringing to my attention issues related to our program.

good luck and i look forward to seeing you at graduation.

GRETCH26: Thanks for posting our petition and passing it on. I thank Rico from our group for making that. Well we wont be needing it now!!!!

Specializes in OR and Neuro.

I attended Malcolm X College nursing program and graduated in 2007. We had access to all of the HESI practice exams towards the end of our 2nd Med Surg rotation. Two days were allotted to practice all of the HESI exams (psych, ob, med surg, etc) which was not the best way to present the material. I understand Truman College has all students take HESI after every course to see how students are scoring, which is an appropriate strategy.

I agree with the concept of HESI. Since it is imperative that students pass NCLEX on the 1st attempt for accreditation I can understand why CCC wants to make sure students will pass NCLEX. I don't agree with the limits they place on the number of times students can take HESI. They should let students take it as many times necessary to pass, and just charge the students every time to take it.

I passed HESI on my first attempt, but studied A LOT outside of class with NCLEX review materials. All of the students shared the CDRoms with NCLEX prep questions so everyone had access to the same learning materials. Part of it is anxeity; it is tremendously stressful to sit for HESI knowing that if you fail you could very well fail out of the program which has taken up so much time and money. Another part of it is the student's preparation, the tests administered during the semesters are unlike the HESI; but it is up to the student to supplement their learning.

I support the use of HESI by CCC, but I definitely agree that their pass or fail policy is too harsh.

We were not against the Hesi exam either. We were against the way it was being used against the students and ruining their lives. I am so happy that since the policy has changed , many students will get their degrees and move on with their lives.

Prettysmartjob, I want to congratulate you, and everybody else who worked very hard on this project!!. I signed the petition and I am very happy for the outcome!!. People like you and all the people that worked on it have made a great change for all of the future nursing students like myself ( I start the nursing program Fall 2010). I am very proud of all you which did not settle for less and have proven that when students, people etc. get together, great things can happen!!! CONGRATULATIONS again on you great accomplishment!!!!!!:yeah::ancong!:

Congrats everyone on graduating. I wonder if they will abolish the Hesi? It seems that those of us still in the nursing program may still be subjected to the Hesi, according to the Chancellor's wording. I hope that those of us still in the program have the fortitude to continue the good fight if necessary.

Thanks to all of you guys that fought for justice. You effort: priceless! I'm just hopping it's also abolished for some of us that are yet to finish the program.

Specializes in OR and Neuro.

Of course. Studying is crucial, but it is essential to understand why an answer is correct or incorrect.

RNs assess, intervene, and reassess. That is how you should apply your thought process to any question.

Specializes in OR and Neuro.

wow, that is crazy.

Specializes in OR and Neuro.

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