Published Jan 12, 2008
Barbie38
79 Posts
Hi!..I am so excited to post this thread because I know somehow there would be a lot of concerned people that could more or less share their views on this.
I just wondered if the nurses who left for New Zealand and Australia really were good in speaking, writing and listening in English. I just got frustrated because most of the countries now required an IELTS individual scores of 7. Meaning, 7 in Listening, speaking, writing and reading the English language.
I know a lot of nurses who are now in New Zealand and Australia and even in Ireland who (no personal offense) are not really that good in English. I mean really...I would not say they are much better than me or my other friend, but they took the IELTS a year ago and olaaah...they passed this test and got 7 in each test.
I think some agency or organization should check on this. Coz now, I heard from my firends too that most of the takers are 2nd to 4 times takers already because of the desired score of 7.
Again no offense meant here..but I think some Filipinas can write and speak English correctly with the correct verb, adjective and sentence construction than the Native Aussies, Kiwis, Irelanders etc....
The IELTS they are offering now is getting more difficult than years before. I fairly think, the business of IELTS review centers in the Philippines are increasingly succesful in getting more students to re-take and do the exam again and again because of the band score on each task. :icon_roll
An example is if a nurse got a 7 in speaking ,reading and writing, but got a 6.5 in listening, this does not mean she would be unqualified to practice her nursing in the said countires. Is that fair?
On the next IELTS test, she got to take it again, and got 7 in all except in speaking where she got 6.5. Now this meant she failed again... and need to take it again
To think...there were many factors that could affect her English scores. Personally, the speaking can be subjective as well as the writing task. Filipinos who earn so meagerly, cannot afford to pay 8,690.00 pesos evrytime for this IELTS test.
Can some organization see this??? I hope to see some views from my friends here in our web...
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
It is not a point of any organizations reading this but the issue that one must have skills compatible with those of native speakers of English.
And there is no reason that perfect scores should not be required, patient's lives are at stake.
Things change and the requirements change. The issue for you is that if you wish to work overseas, then you must meet the requirements of the new country.
And sorry to say, that have seen many from your country that have had to take the language exam more than one time because of their language skills in English. It is a well known fact that the Philippines actually lost about 300,000 jobs in call centers because of the decline in English skills there. More tagalog is being spoken now.
rajotolentino
225 Posts
It is not a point of any organizations reading this but the issue that one must have skills compatible with those of native speakers of English.And there is no reason that perfect scores should not be required, patient's lives are at stake.Things change and the requirements change. The issue for you is that if you wish to work overseas, then you must meet the requirements of the new country. And sorry to say, that have seen many from your country that have had to take the language exam more than one time because of their language skills in English. It is a well known fact that the Philippines actually lost about 300,000 jobs in call centers because of the decline in English skills there. More tagalog is being spoken now.
where did you get this info? i havent heard about this. show me the link
This thread is more than a year old. You can easily take the time to do a search. Much was written on this very topic last year and before on many international news channels.
The issue is that one needs to meet the requirements of the country where they wish to work.
And then for the other point that you may be asking about, if the skills in English were that good for the mjority in your country, then why has the English requirement not been waived by all of the other countries? In fact it is still in place and the requirements are getting harder. As mentioned a year ago, patients lives are at stake. Pure and simple. One word misunderstood and that could cost someone their life.
And to add on to this, since you were the one that brought it up: Why are there so many posting from your country that have had to take one of the English exams several times to pass? If skills were that good, they should have passed on the first take and that is most definitely not the case.
blabber, RN
78 Posts
Hi! I just retook my IELTS exam last Jan. 17th (for another country) and I'm happy to say that I got a 7.5 band score (listening 8, reading 7.5 writing 7) and speaking 7. It was different from my previous score (2005) wherein I only got 7 band score (listening 8.5, reading 6.5, writing 6, and speaking of 8).
Anyhow, as Suzanne said, requirements change through the years. Before, most countries are just requiring 6.5 over-all band score (no matter what score you have in listening, reading and writing) and 7 speaking, but now Australia and New Zealand are requiring 7 in all categories.
If you don't meet the required score for speaking (which is 7) then sad to say, you have to retake it again.
With the speaking, from my experience, it really depends on the type of questions that will be given to you. You can be familiar with the topic asked or not. When I had my speaking test (retake one), I was so nervous that sometimes, I had to stop during the conversation to think and that I guess, influenced my score. They also judge you by the way you interact with the examiner/interviewer during the speaking test.
For those really planning and thinking of going to the US, Australia, Canada, UK and New Zealand where IELTS is one of the major requirements, you have to really prepare for the costs of all exams.
burbeestar
43 Posts
I'm currently reviewing for my IELTS. I hope i could make 7.0 and above in all the sections!
hi burbeestar! can i just recommend this site for your IELTS review? http://www.ielts-exam.net. this is the one i used for my review. a lot of practice test that are so very helpful. with regards to speaking, my advice is relax and breath...
Good luck!
My hand's down favorite is going to be:
www.scottsenglish.com
Have seen the best results for those that have used their programs. Particularly for those from SE Asia.
Looks like the replies were a bit late huh??? But anyhow.... I am a good English speaker and I have been an English tutor sometime in my past. Unfortunately, I have a very poor writing ( can't be read), quite flowery in words in Essay...so to say..I am frustrated with writing in IELTS.
Okey so...may I share this knowledge that I have towards this IELTS ? I need to hear from you guys...If countries consider patients' care to be at stake in their IELTS passing score.. kindly explain.......
CANADA and U.S. consider you as a passer of their required English capablity if you have a Total band score of even as low as 6.5 TOTAL. Which also shows that they want you to have a 7 as SPEAKING score and they will not mind a score of a lesser listening, reading and writing....as long as you have a total score of all these to at least 6.5 BAND SCORE They believe that verbal communication is what matters most here.
AURSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND AND IRELAND consider you to be a passer if you have NO score below 7... meaning the least score that you have should be 7...... if you have only 6.5....they won't accept you..(but Canada and U.S. will accept you)
What's the difference?? Does this mean, Americans and Canadians don't need to have the best English takers compared to the other said countries? Or are these countries practically know that a matter of .5 in the score is pointless?
Oh well.. I think ...they made the right decision and rules to this IELTS....thanks to these two countries.:icon_roll:yeah:
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
Each country will make their own requirements on what they want regarding English
camjoantherese
1 Post
my results r: 7.5, 7, 6.5, & 8. can i retake it again? and ill only concentrate on writing....will they consider my score in that particular part if its a 7 n above even though the other parts r below 7. (well hopefully not).
i hope they can consider the parts that have 7 no matter how many times uv taken it.
lianerobles
2 Posts
camjoantherese, where are you planning to apply by the way... I'm quite confuse as well because like you, I got 7.5- listening, 7.0 in reading, 6.5-writing and an 8 in speaking. I'm not sure if Ireland requires nurses to get just the band score of 7 over all or they need a certain score for each subtests...