ICU Nurse Fired For Refusing 3rd Patient

Nurse Julie Griffin was fired for standing up for what she thought was the right thing. Nurses General Nursing News

At Westside Regional Medical Center in Plantation, Florida, ICU nurse Julie Griffin worked in the 12 bed cardiovascular ICU (CVICU.) Until she was fired for refusing to take a third patient.

Westside Regional Medical Center is part of HCA Healthcare. HCA Healthcare is the largest for-profit hospital chain in the U.S., owning over 150 hospitals, and earning over 47 billion in 2018.

Unmonitored Patients

One of Julie's concerns for patient safety was that the in-room monitors provided for a split screen display. This allows for an ICU nurse to be in one of her patient's rooms, set the monitor for a 2-view display, and be able to monitor her second patient. The problem? It does not allow for a 3-way display. If the ICU nurse has 3 patients, one of those patients will not be monitored.

In an interview with Hospital Watchdog, Julie Griffin explained that there is a standing order for all ICU patients to receive continuous monitoring, and nurses must electronically attest to the fact that the standard of care was met. HCA CVICU does not staff a qualified monitor tech at the nurses station where the central bank of patient monitors display. If all the nurses are away from the station providing patient care and an unmonitored patient goes into a lethal rhythm, there is no one to see it. An alarm would sound, but there are constant alarms in CVICU that compete for a nurse's attention. Alarms cannot be relied upon as a substitute for a nurse.

Hospital Watchdog reports that 2 such unmonitored patients have died. Allegedly, one of the patients was discovered dead and may have been dead for up to 30 minutes. A family member went out to the nurses station to report that something was wrong.

In the other case, allegedly the nurse was assigned 3 patients, was able to monitor only 2 of them, and the 3rd patient died of pulmonary problems, possible a pulmonary embolism (PE).

Hospital Watchdog qualifies the above cases saying they are not substantiated with medical records or other documentation, they are reported by nurse Julie Griffin in an interview.

Whistle-Blower

Julie says all of her colleagues shared her concern about patient safety and lack of monitoring, but they were afraid to speak up. They needed to keep their jobs in order to support their families. Julie, previously in the Navy, believed in following the chain-of-command. She reported unsafe patient conditions to her charge nurses and manager. She believed that if corporate only knew about the practice, they would want to do the right thing and rectify the situation.

Instead of rectifying the situation, nurses were frequently required to take 3, and sometimes 4, patients in the CVICU. Julie claims that untrained nurses were assigned ICU patients.

Julie trusted there would not be retaliation if she complained. There was. Julie claims her Director intimidated her and at one point frightened Julie by getting physically close. Julie's schedule was changed to working every weekend. She felt harassed.

Even the HR department at Westside acknowledged that the Director's actions were inappropriate. Even so, Julie was removed from duty within hours the day she refused to take a third patient.

On the day she was terminated, Julie had 2 patients. One patient had orders for transfer out to the floor. One of the patients was a post-op open heart surgery, and was on a diuretic. Julie knew that a patient on a diuretic often has to urinate urgently, and was concerned that she needed to respond right away to make sure he didn't fall.

Julie refused to accept the assignment of a 3rd patient. At 1700, The CVICU Director came to the unit and told Julie she had to take the 3rd patient. She again refused, was placed on investigative leave, and terminated 2 weeks later, in 2017. Julie had worked in HCA ICU since July 2016.

Julie later filed 2 Florida Whistle-Blower complaints in 2018, and has filed a suit against HCA for unlawful termination.

Julie's Director says that Julie was a disruptive staff member.

Julie says that the standard of care required by HCA called for continuous monitoring of her patients, and she was unwilling to violate that standard.

Right or Wrong?

Should Julie have gone with the status quo and quietly accepted a 3rd patient, knowing that at least 1 of her patients was lower acuity? Or did she do the right thing?

Is her reputation so damaged that she will have difficulty securing employment? Was she acting on principle or imminent patient endangerment?

Does she have any chance of prevailing against HCA?

Many of us have been in similar situations. What would you have done?

Nurse Beth,

Author, "Your Last Nursing Class: How to Land Your First Nursing Job"...and your next!

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.
11 minutes ago, NotANewRN said:

Maybe I have only worked in high acuity ICUs over the last 20 years because it has been so few times that I have had a patient be able to call to go to a bathroom. She made it seem like the Heart was on an oral diuretic, was coherent & continent enough to call for the bathroom. That sounds a whole lot like a step-down patient in my world. A "new" open heart ICU patient would not be able to do those things.

I guess I see your point there. I also work in a high acuity Cardiac ICU...ECMO's being the ultimate sickest patients but as an NP. Once an open heart patient does not even have a Foley anymore to accurately measure I/O's and can ask to go to the bathroom, it doesn't make sense for them to be in the ICU. Heart rhythms can be monitored in step down. The story does not have enough details to paint a good picture of what Julie's assignment that day really was. And the links that the other poster provided aren't any more useful. However, I still stand by my assertion that only Julie knows how unsafe her assignment was since I wasn't there.

She absolutely did the right thing, at great personal cost.

Her Director and everyone responsible for such outrageous staffing and treatment of this precious, courageous, laudable nurse should be publicly flogged, and the whole organization should be shut down.

I hope they all have to work right alongside a nurse for a month so they can get a real taste of what nurses endure these days.

And shame on those damned nurses/colleagues who would not stand up with her.

2 hours ago, EllaBella1 said:

I understand where she was coming from, and I do understand the problem of not being able to monitor your third patient adequately. But one of her patients was a downgrade, so it really wasn't a true triple. This situation arises in my unit often. Typically what I will do is get a tele box from central monitoring for my PCU/tele downgrade patient so that they are monitored by someone else. Then I can devote most of my attention to my ICU patients. Of course I don't know if this was an option for her.

Until we have mandatory staffing ratios this issue will happen. I personally would not have chosen that moment to fight that battle.

No one was at the station to do the monitoring.

Who would have monitored the 3rd pt?

It was a triple. 2+1 = 3. In ICU.

Specializes in Critical Care.
56 minutes ago, Susie2310 said:

I read in the OP that the post-op patient was post-op open heart surgery. Why do you think that a new post-op open heart surgery patient shouldn't be in the ICU? Even if the patient had been in the ICU for a while, there could be a number of other reasons why they were in the ICU after the surgery, such as complications from the surgery or co-morbidities resulting in complications post-operatively that required an ICU level of care.

So I went back and read the case and all her statements. The Heart was ambulatory and her concern was that she was a fall risk. That is a legit concern but that is not an ICU patient. After fully reading everything, I am very convinced she was not caring for even 1 ICU patient and refused the patient that may have been a real ICU patient. However, the intimidation and inappropriate behavior by her manager is not acceptable. It also seems like this hospital skirts the rules quite frequently. I think she could have found a stronger misdeed to pursue action against them if she had worked there longer. HCA also has a terrible reputation where I live so I believe they do a lot of questionable management actions with employees and patient care. I wish her the best.

Specializes in Critical Care.
4 minutes ago, Kooky Korky said:

No one was at the station to do the monitoring.

Who would have monitored the 3rd pt?

It was a triple. 2+1 = 3. In ICU.

It wasn't triple ICU patients. A floor patient with transfer orders. He doesn't get continuous monitoring.

Specializes in Primary Care, Military.
1 hour ago, juan de la cruz said:

But she's also the one without a job. Nurses can not single-handedly fight a battle such as this one. There are other nurses employed there. Did they object to their assignments as well and fill out a form when faced with the same situation? If not, her cause would not get as much attention and she is just a casualty of an unfair staffing practice of a hospital. Look, I support her and her decision but until nurses band together like we did as strong unions in California, nothing will happen.

If your sneeze or fart so much as sound like the word union in an HCA facility, their alarms in HR go off and you will be terminated immediately. HCA describes their staffing as "FTE neutral," which means it's blind to whether the "FTE" filling is a tech or a nurse. They do this to have "flexibility" to provide coverage for shifts. They have a corporate staffing matrix, but each hospital department is allowed to rearrange this as they see fit. They set policies such as hospitals are not allowed to decline patients based on insufficient staffing to care for them. They have a history of being caught in medicare/Medicaid fraud cases. Profit is the most important factor here. Nurses are just an expense, especially those who are experienced, and will quickly be tossed under the bus in exchange for cheaper labor. Why is anyone surprised by this?

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.
Just now, HarleyvQuinn said:

If your sneeze or fart so much as sound like the word union in an HCA facility, their alarms in HR go off and you will be terminated immediately. HCA describes their staffing as "FTE neutral," which means it's blind to whether the "FTE" filling is a tech or a nurse. They do this to have "flexibility" to provide coverage for shifts. They have a corporate staffing matrix, but each hospital department is allowed to rearrange this as they see fit. They set policies such as hospitals are not allowed to decline patients based on insufficient staffing to care for them. They have a history of being caught in medicare/Medicaid fraud cases. Profit is the most important factor here. Nurses are just an expense, especially those who are experienced, and will quickly be tossed under the bus in exchange for cheaper labor. Why is anyone surprised by this?

Your post made me LOL. HCA has 2 facilities in California with one in the Bay Area where I live, Good Samaritan in San Jose. Good Sam is unionized through CNA but has one of the highest nursing staff turnovers in the region along with another struggling facility in the same city.

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/nurses-urge-hca-affiliated-good-samaritan-hospital-and-regional-medical-center-san-jose

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2 minutes ago, juan de la cruz said:

Your post made me LOL. HCA has 2 facilities in California with one in the Bay Area where I live, Good Samaritan in San Jose. Good Sam is unionized through CNA but has one of the highest nursing staff turnovers in the region along with another struggling facility in the same city.

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/nurses-urge-hca-affiliated-good-samaritan-hospital-and-regional-medical-center-san-jose

Haha. God bless Cali. On the opposite coast we aren't having luck with unions. Same situation with high turnover, though.

1 hour ago, NotANewRN said:

So 1 patient was a floor patient and the other was a post-op patient that was continent and could request to go the bathroom. Neither of those patients are ICU patients. She refused a 3rd? Why? Her assignment is a floor patient with transfer orders, a step-down patient and a potentially true ICU patient.

Please re-read the article.

She feared the pt on diuretic would fall.

Floor pt? Which one? Who was going to do the transfer if there really was a floor pt?

Other nurse said she could take the pt in an hour, as she would only have 1 pt in an hour.

Re-read.

17 minutes ago, HarleyvQuinn said:

If your sneeze or fart so much as sound like the word union in an HCA facility, their alarms in HR go off and you will be terminated immediately. HCA describes their staffing as "FTE neutral," which means it's blind to whether the "FTE" filling is a tech or a nurse. They do this to have "flexibility" to provide coverage for shifts. They have a corporate staffing matrix, but each hospital department is allowed to rearrange this as they see fit. They set policies such as hospitals are not allowed to decline patients based on insufficient staffing to care for them. They have a history of being caught in medicare/Medicaid fraud cases. Profit is the most important factor here. Nurses are just an expense, especially those who are experienced, and will quickly be tossed under the bus in exchange for cheaper labor. Why is anyone surprised by this?

They should all burn in hell.

30 minutes ago, NotANewRN said:

It wasn't triple ICU patients. A floor patient with transfer orders. He doesn't get continuous monitoring.

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8 minutes ago, Kooky Korky said:

Please re-read the article.

She feared the pt on diuretic would fall.

Floor pt? Which one? Who was going to do the transfer if there really was a floor pt?

Other nurse said she could take the pt in an hour, as she would only have 1 pt in an hour.

Re-read.

I did re-read. I read the whole case and all her responses. To answer your questions: Transport would transfer the patient because he had floor orders therefore he is a floor patient being held in the ICU. The Heart on a diuretic was a fall risk, ok. What patient in a cardiac area is not on a diuretic? Probably the only cardiac patient that isn't a fall risk is a sedated, intubated person on a paralytic with restraints. If the other nurse only had 1 patient and was not getting the admit on a cardiac unit, it would seem as if that patient was a high acuity patient on ECMO, a ton of drips, receiving CVVHD, a fresh Heart, coding or something else that deemed her a 1 to 1. Yes, hospitals can be awful with staffing and units can have terrible managers. We all know that. But we also know that not every nurse is not meant for every unit.