Published Nov 4, 2014
Ashmi11
7 Posts
I am studying bsc nursing 4th year in India..and I am planning to go US after finishing my study. And, I am having confusion that I need to do intern or not..can I direct apply for Abroad without any experience or I have to do intern..don't know what to do..please help me give your views..
JustBeachyNurse, LPN
13,957 Posts
There is no need for US employers to recruit new grad nurses from overseas so you won't qualify for a work visa. Do you have work rights? Even if you found an employer willing to sponsor you, you need to prove English language proficiency for most states and due to retrogression the wait for a current priority date for a candidate born in India is over 10 years. No employer is going to hold a job for over a decade never mind pay to sponsor an inexperienced new grad nurse when there are hundreds of US educated nurses who are citizens or permanent residents seeking employment.
I don't understand what you mean about "direct apply abroad". There is no nursing shortage in much of the US.
I just mean that should I need experience or not to apply in US as a working visa.after completing my study can I apply or not.
You need experience. No employer is going to sponsor a new grad when there are hundreds to thousands of new grad nurses already in the US, educated in the US seeking employment. Combine that with the over 10 year wait for an EB3 visa (clock starts once you have submitted your visa application and it was accepted by USCIS) no employer is going to hold a job until 2027 for a new inexperienced nurse.
Ok tq
I'm sorry what is "tq"?
cherrybee
175 Posts
I think it is thank you. :)
Back2SchoolRN
45 Posts
JustBeachy,
I'm a little surprised to hear how harsh your tone seems to be toward Ashmi11. He or she is asking simple factual questions, and yet your answers suggest you think he or she is expecting the US to give her an unearned privilege of some kind. Business is business; if there were a company that wanted to sponsor him/her, however unlikely that might be, could you be happy for her or him?
I could; I don't think we US-born nurses are in danger of losing our jobs in large numbers to individual nurses from other countries who seek to come here under their own initiative. There have been times when US entities did hire large-scale hiring of (underpaid) nurses from outside the US to avoid paying us adequately, but that's different.
Many of those were extremely dedicated well-trained nurses, some from countries where the 4-year degree had been the point of entry into licensed nursing for many years before it was even discussed here. Those nurses weren't looking for an sneaky way in, nor were they under-qualified or lazy, even if they were taken advantage of in a way that undercut our efforts to gain respect and compensation.
Aggressive competition with immigrant nurses seems as pointless as territorial battles between US nurses over such topics as, "Do we still have a place for LPNs in nursing?". The answer is yes, of course. Some of the best and brightest nurses I've ever worked with were LPNs. (That's what the Filipina BSN nurses hired in one of those episodes mentioned above said to me when I was working alongside them as an LPN, too.)
Maybe I'm seeing coldness where it isn't meant, but, seeing that you feel strongly we should, "Never lose a chance of saying a kind word," I was just surprised not to hear more encouragement. It is good that you did explain that it isn't quick nor easy; just a little warmth could soften the blow, and doesn't cost a thing.
I'm guessing "tq" means "thank you".
To Ashmi11 I say: She's right that excellent English will be required. It's best to get your information directly from the US authorities who'd be issuing you the items you're hoping for--work Visa, nursing license, etc. That's the only way to get accurate unbiased, current and complete information. When you can make those calls or mailings comfortably, you'll know your English is ready. You might find what you're hoping for somewhere else, too, so keep an open mind.
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loriangel14, RN
6,931 Posts
Beachy wasn't being harsh, she was being realisitc and giving the facts.
I'm sorry that you think the reality that there are extremely limited options for foreign educated inexperienced new nurses with limited English skills in the US. New grads, regardless of English ability , do not qualify for specialty visas. With retrogression in effect, the backlog for candidates is 3 to 10+ years based on country of birth. Those born in India have a 10+ year wait for their priority date to become current for an EB3 visa once application has been processed/accepted.
The visa bulletins are readily available online that detail the status and wait for immigrant, employment, and specialized work visas
I see no point in giving false hope and misinformation. That is unkind. You cannot infer tone online and you are making assumptions about the facts that I posted.
Graduate. Obtain a nursing license in your country of education (Canada and several US states require this). Work locally, aim for a specialty area. Improve your skills in English & medical English (there are voluminous suggestions how to improve English language skills here and other sites ranging from classes to watching American TV).
Right now the options are limited for US citizen/PR, US educated inexperienced new grad nurses. Areas of CA have new grad RNs & LPNs searching 10-20 months for their first paid nursing job with a nursing unemployment rate up to 47%.
Reality is there are extremely few employers that need or want to go through the time and expense to sponsor an overseas nurse. Hiring an inexperienced new grad IEN over a citizen or PR nurse isn't going to fulfill the immigration criteria.
If telling the facts rather than create false hope is "harsh" and "unkind" then so be it and clearly I can't change your opinion about the facts I write. The poster has not even graduated so they cannot have a US nursing license or a job offer at this point.