I feel truly sorry for new grads

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Just wanted to say that. I've been a nurse since 2008 and did ok, first in sub-acute rehab and now in med-surg, did not experience any unemployment and had very stable finances that whole time. I guess I got lucky because I graduated just as the industry was going down the toilet.

I just want to share my observation that this is no longer the industry of opportunities it once was, it has really changed for the worse, the attitude of employers has changed for the worse, and opportunities for young people have disappeared.

This industry has never been about making x or y amount of money, but it's been about opportunities for young people. Now the opportunities are in jeopardy.

Young talented BSNs can't even find work in med-surg nowadays because new grads are not welcome.

If you can't at least do med-surg because new grads are not welcome, you are setting yourself up for failure in later career because something like med-surg is the foundation, and they're denying you even the foundation you need to get started.

My advice for young people interested in a career in health care is to stay clear of nursing but do something like physical therapy. A PT degree may require 3 years more in school (because it's a PhD or a Masters) but the extra 3 years will be worth it because everywhere you go employers will accept you, nobody will give you a hard time because you're a new grad, and companies will be glad to take you under their wings and train you.

I got back from the website for the Norther Illinois University PT program and their employment rate for new PT grads is 100% (this means 100% of new grads are welcome in physical therapy).

Just my 2 cents.

Ding ding ding! And the worst is yet to come. Soon employers will be approaching nurses and will say something along these lines..."In our effort to make healthcare affordable for every American, we are going to have to cut back our spending. A major expense for us right now is your wages."

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

I've already seen it. I applied with a company I worked for after school ($20/hr with 0-6 months of experience). Now here I am with almost 4 years of experience & they offered me $18/hr. I was like, waaahhuh??

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Ding ding ding! And the worst is yet to come. Soon employers will be approaching nurses and will say something along these lines..."In our effort to make healthcare affordable for every American we are going to have to cut back our spending. A major expense for us right now is your wages."[/quote']

Mostly for the companies that don't have the business...and if anyone else who has plenty of money tries to, then it's time to start a union.

However, the ACA has funding and provisions specifically for nurses and nurse practitioners; the purpose is to provide nursing the reimbursements that we are already being cut out of; most of our wages, especially in home health is not even 50% of what the companies are getting per hour per case. :blink:

I could imagine one day our wages increasing, because it's not tied into the bottom line; if tweaked right; we could actually have our wages increase because of the ACA, and bring the corporatization of nursing to its knees....

It's already happening? Doesn't surprise me. It will get worse. Union? I work for UPS, I'm a teamster. Fell back on a job that I excelled at years ago, and they are happy to have me back. Hospitals that I worked for in the past? They wouldn't give my application a second glance if I tried to fall back on them. It's a horrible profession.

I'm not trying to discourage new grads, or talk anybody out of nursing. I'm just relating my own personal experiences. It's not worth the money you "could" make "should" you find a job. And nowadays, what they expect of you is off the wall. Back in the day you just had to take care of your patients. Nowadays, you have to find chairs for family members and carry the chairs into the room. Ask the family if they would like something to drink, and make them a pot of coffee or call the nursing supervisor to bring them a sandwich. You feel more like a waitress than a nurse, and would probably make more money waitressing without the student loan debt. Does anybody need a pedicure? No? Okay I'm going to go chart before another family member asks me to look at the rash in their groin area, then complains because I declined.

Ok that is funny about the rash in the groin. Seriously though programs are still misleading students to think they will come out making 30 an hour and find a job anywhere. It isn't that way anymore though I am not discouraging anyone from becoming a nurse.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for educating family and making them comfortable, but this is an ICU, and when you hear screaming in the room next door and see that the curtain is shut and there is a red cart outside the room, it probably isn't a good time to ask the nurse if she can put preparation H on your grandma's dingleberries. But she does ask. And as you're doing chest compressions you say "okay be there in a few minutes, we have a situation going on here right now!" The guy that you were doing chest compressions on lives, but the granddaughter of the patient next door complains to administration that you said you would be there in a couple minutes, and it took you 10 minutes to get there. You are called into your manager's office, and don't get a single thanks for the life you saved. In fact you get an hour long lecture on AIDET and customer service. Trying to argue the fact that you had a patient who was coding next door does you no good. Nursing is getting very ugly.

All I can say is "look before you leap". Have a backup plan so that you're not high and dry when the bottom falls out.

Anybody who tells you that you will make $30 an hour in nursing was lying to you. Who in the world told you that? A nursing school that wanted $25,000 a year tuition?

Defy the laws of physics, and show your boss that you are the only person on this earth who can be 10 different places at once. Then maybe, just maybe, you may get $30 an hour. Consider yourself lucky if you land a nursing job at all. As one of the above posters said, when she was a new grad they offered her $20 an hour, with 4 years experience they offered her $18. She isn't lying. None of us are. What would we gain by lying? Nothing. What would your nursing school gain by lying? $25,000 a year tuition. What would the BON gain by lying? $500 for you to take the NCLEX. Think about who you believe more and let me know.

The management of the hospitals, I swear, they live in a dream world! "Customer service...and AIDET...and unicorns..." Customer service? Are you f**king kidding me? This isn't Burger King where you can order a whopper without mayonnaise and then when you get a whopper with mayonnaise they can just make you a new one. It isn't Walmart where the cashier accidentally scanned your 12 pack of Pepsi twice and you can go to the customer service counter and get refunded the $3.88 you were overcharged. If I decide to rub preparation H on somebody's hemorrhoids while I have a patient next door coding, and that person dies as a result, I'm in deep doo doo. So why am I being written up again?

I have a family member who got out of nursing school two years ago and was told such nonsense. Me I have been a nurse almost sixteen years and tuition was a lot cheaper. Nursing Jobs are getting harder for a new grad to find but nursing schools are still telling them the nursing shortage myth.

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