Hi there! I set this up so that people who are currently at Hunter, who intend to apply for the New Generic Program for Nursing in Fall 2014 can share, discuss, and review anything related to the nursing program.
Also, any students who are currently in Hunter's Nursing Program (any) , or in a nursing program in general are welcome to share any useful information they have. (NLN scores, tips, advice, GPA?)
Hey, everyone. I'll share what Ms. ******* told us at one of the more recent orientations.
- The average GPA of students accepted into the program last year, Fall 2013, was 3.65
- The average NLN PAX Exam score was 145
- They usually receive about 300 applications every year
As for me, I have a 3.43 GPA and a score of 153. I thought that my score on the exam would be enough to break even with my relatively low GPA, but if you're all listing grades like 144, 148, 150, and even 160 (great job with that by the way; I envy you), then I'm not so sure I have a chance anymore... Sounds like I have a low GPA and an average exam score, which may or may not be enough. I'd really like to hear more grades from other people, but I know it's hard to announce your grades if it's lower than what's been posted already.
Anyway, msingh, mondalroman, and xHoneyBunny, it seems like you're all in good standing in my opinion, but still good luck to you three!
Hey, everyone. I'll share what Ms. ***** told us at one of the more recent orientations.
- The average GPA of students accepted into the program last year, Fall 2013, was 3.65
- The average NLN PAX Exam score was 145
- They usually receive about 300 applications every year
As for me, I have a 3.43 GPA and a score of 153. I thought that my score on the exam would be enough to break even with my relatively low GPA, but if you're all listing grades like 144, 148, 150, and even 160 (great job with that by the way; I envy you), then I'm not so sure I have a chance anymore... Sounds like I have a low GPA and an average exam score, which may or may not be enough. I'd really like to hear more grades from other people, but I know it's hard to announce your grades if it's lower than what's been posted already.
Anyway, msingh, mondalroman, and xHoneyBunny, it seems like you're all in good standing in my opinion, but still good luck to you three!
You're NLN score is great... and yes your gpa could be a little higher.. but last year someone had a 3.35 and got in with a 160 NLN score. But unfortunately, its hard to assume what will be the competitive gpa this year.
The thing though is.. it is tough to use last year's gpa average in comparison to this year's program because they are different programs with different prerequisites. Last year a student had to have already taken Anatomy and Physiology 1&2 as well as Microbiology. I already took all those courses and so did all the applicants for last years program. Now the thing is... since freshmen don't have to take those courses this year until AFTER they get into the program, there are going to be a lot of freshmen applying with high GPA's. Because those prereqs are not required anymore, it will be easier for students this year to maintain a high GPA because they are required to have less credits and the "tougher" courses aren't required that would potentially lower a lot of GPA's.
So what does that mean for this new generic program? I can see this program being very competitive in the future in regards to GPA, because if you are a hard working college student, it should be relatively easy to maintain a high gpa with only those courses as prereqs. (essen of gen chem, psych/dev psych, english comp, statistics,) to me and this is of course my own opinion, those are somewhat easy for students to receive A's in. i think the only "hard" course that is a prereq for the nursing program this year is the essentials of organic chemistry. In my opinion this is one of the only courses that really threatens to lower high gpas amongst high achieving students.
Now the good thing, or maybe not so good thing for some students, but in my case since I took all those prereqs/coreqs, it really helped me score in the 99 percentile in science, whereas after the exam a couple students who were freshmen without those prereqs were really stumped when it came to all the anatomy and microbio questions.
Also, what kind of stinks for a lot of students is that now one has to receive a "B" or better in the sciences and math (statistics) prereqs. This further proves there will be higher GPA's from now on applying because they no longer allow you to apply if you had a "C". Obviously, Hunter is trying to "raise the bar" and only wants the cream of the crop to apply. It would be nice if they did have a formal interview process for application because in all honesty, I am sure there are lots of people who don't have such a great gpa who would be more qualified to become a nurse (professionally, emotionally, socially) than someone who has a 4.0 and had no personal skills, but with this model, we would rarely ever find out.
Another setback for students who haven't taken anatomy & physiology 1/2 or microbiology is that it now has to be taken WITH the nursing classes as a co-requisite. That is tough and I'm not sure if the staff really realizes (since its the first year) how hard this is going to be for students to accomplish. Here is a look at the first semester once in the program:
BIOL 120 Human Anatomy and Physiology I (4.5 cr)
NURS 200 Introduction to Nursing (2 cr)
NURS 210 Nursing Fundamentals and Health Assessment (4 cr)
NURS 240 Foundation of Genetics for Nurses (2 cr)
Humanities (3 cr) (see catalog)
That's 15.5 credits AND you have to make sure to maintain a "B" or better. I'm not trying to scare anyone, but if someone is applying to next years program and they leave it this way, I would suggest taking those co-reqs beforehand. That way you can focus fully on the nursing curriculum and retain more valuable information for the NCLEX and for your future as a nurse! The way they have the curriculum set up now, it's like you're going to be a memory machine and that's it. Once that semester is over you'll be so grateful to be over with it, you'll just dump the info and forget most of it in preparation for the next semester of memory overload. If I get in, I will be so grateful for having taken those prereqs because I feel like I will be able to dedicate more of my mind to the nursing classes and really absorb and retain the information.
Then the next semester is even worse! One has to take A&P 2 with Microbio AND the other nursing courses.. I am sure there is a reason why they set up the new program this way, but I don't think it was the best way to do it. But, what do I know? I am just a student trying to get into the program! But I am entitled to an opinion right? lol.
I write a lot, sorry. But as far as posting NLN scores, i think you're right on that. I tend to find that as I look through all these forums, only people who scored relatively well have posted their scores. The two people I saw that posted low scores had high gpa's and talked about planning to retake the nln. lol. As far as some other grades, in my orgo lecture, some girls stated they score 120, 109, 110. One girl even said she hadn't met anyone yet that scored over 130 and she had been asking a lot of people. One more little tidbit to add: Upon my own observation, (and this is just correlation) I noticed that people who are usually interested in their standings and post onto allnurses, usually make into the program. For instance, I looked at last years entire forum, (I'm crazy i guess) and everyone who posted about their (gpa's/nln scores/i'm nervous/I hope my score is good enough/) ended up getting into the program. Among the individuals that kept posting in the forums, I didn't see one post that stated, "I didn't make it". I am sure we will all be back here in a couple of months saying, "I got accepted".
GL to you too,Milady. I hope you make it in the program. I have a feeling though with that NLN score you may make it in. and by the way... the person who posted a 160 nln score is already in the program. He is not competition. Yay.. one less.
One last thing. My score is at the highest end of the average, but yours is above average. And it looks good. Plus, when I went to the orientation session with Maria, I asked her this: I said, if I have a great gpa is it okay to have a lower score on the nln? as in will my gpa kind of "make up" for a low score if I get one? She said, not necessarily. Then she added, "if anything it would be the other way around. We would consider a higher NLN score with a lower gpa to be more impressive than a 4.0 with a low NLN if it came down to it". :)
When pre-nursing classes are open to *everyone* the school must create enough slots to accommodate. HB like many CUNY nursing programs has had problems with pre-nursing students being "shut out" of required classes because number of students vastly overwhelmed available classes. Science, math and so forth are their own departments and though certain classes are a big part of their offerings they cannot devote their entire budget to say A&P professors and labs.
In the case of Hunter many health science majors shared the same classes. So you had pre-nursing, pre-med, nutrition etc... all trying to get into the same classes. Some HB pre-nursing students would get fed up and take A&P, chemistry and so forth elsewhere and transfer the credits back just to get the things over with.
If you move A&P along with other required sciences behind the wall of formally accepted nursing students you at once cap the number of students from that major taking said classes. HB's nursing program (undergrad and ABSN) together is only 100 students. That seems like a vastly easier number to manage than the hundreds of pre-nursing students all trying to get into the same each semester.
Regarding personal interviews or perhaps an essay, some programs do give applicants a bit of credit for such things, but not HB. When you come down to it someone somewhere has crunched the numbers and come up with an academic profile most likely to be retained and graduate from the program as well as pass the boards on first attempt.
your gpa is good but the nln is s little low compared to what the average was last year (140) according to the Hunter nursing director. this year I think it will be more competitive as well. But you never know. you can check last year's forum and you'll see a lot of the scores posted and those who got in. good luck to you.
Yea I been digging through all the forums I see for the year fall 2012 people were accepted with 120's. but then again that was then this is now. I made a big jump my last nln score was a 98. One girl who got a 127 last year said she received a denial letter in may but because people didnt make the B in chemistry they were bumped out and that's when they sent her back an email saying she was then accepted. She had about a 3.6-3.7. I am hopeful.
Hi! First year New Generic here. You all have great chances of getting in, looking at your scores. One of you mentioned the first semester's classes:
First Semester (Fall)
BIOL 120 Human Anatomy and Physiology I (4.5 cr)
NURS 200 Introduction to Nursing (2 cr)
NURS 210 Nursing Fundamentals and Health Assessment (4 cr)
NURS 240 Foundation of Genetics for Nurses (2 cr)
Humanities (3 cr) (see catalog)
I HIGHLY SUGGEST you all start taking those Bio classes the summer prior to your entrance into the program, if you are accepted. I can tell you that it is DEFINITELY tough. Class of 2016 has had a pretty rough time especially with anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 that we have had to take along with the nursing courses.
The curriculum committee is aware of how insane the first year's classes are, and supposedly they will do something to change it, whether it be informing students to start taking these classes earlier or whatever the case might be. Just know, your first year wont be easy, and very stressful with those bio classes. I was lucky enough to take Anatomy and Physiology 2 over the winter, and now I only have Microbiology with Pharmacology 1 and Adult Health and Illness with a Hunter GER requirement. It's still tough. Just try to get A&P out of the way!
Don't be discouraged. The program is still a great one. You all must stay positive!
I know of maybe one or two. I don't really remember to be honest haha. Remember, it all depends on how the other applicants do. That's why it's hard to say. Applicants from previous years prior to mine got 145's and I was told that if I couldn't get that number, then I don't have a chance. But here I am, accepted with a 3.9 and 130 on the NLN
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I hope I have a good chance