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Saturday night I worked 10-6 with another CNA and an LPN on the PC/ICF unit at my facility. The other CNA dissapeared several times during the night. At one point I asked the nurse if she had seen my partner. She said, "She's cleaning the wheelchairs". I said, " That means I get to pass ice, I guess". Shift goes on. We do two bed checks and then the CNA that I am with takes her 45 minute lunch break. Comes back and I clock out for my lunch. While I am on lunch she decides to pass ice. The nurse specifically told her that I was planning to pass ice and not to do it. She passed ice anyway. I clock back in and no sooner than the time clock beeps, the fire alarm is going off. We find where it is on the board and take off searching room to room. It said my unit had a smoke detector going off. A CMA and a CNA come down to help look. I am going from room to room on my hall and try to direct them to an area where I haven't searched yet. The CNA looks for thirty seconds and stands there in the hall. I ask her to go check the lobby and offices. She tells me, "Hey Buddy, your not the nurse and we don't have to take orders from you. I don't have to do anything until the nurse tells me otherwise". Turns out the nurse was on a cigarette break and had no idea that anything was going on. So they both leave and after my partner and I finish searching and determine that everyone is safe we were talking privately. I said something to the extent of "What is her problem, I am the most senior nurse aide down here and all I was trying to do was make sure that no one was in danger".

The irate CNA from before was eves dropping on the other side of the fire door and heard me say this. She called the nurses station, talked to me like a dog. She called me lazy and said that I hadn't helped me partner all night. When the facility was bought out we all filled out paperwork on the same day so no I was not more senior than her, and she was not going to listen to me which is untrue, seniority stayed the same. I told the nurse what all had happened and she had this CNA come down and talk with her about it. That CNA then decided to stay over and talk to the DON about me.

First off, how do you help someone when you have no clue where they are or what they are doing. I asked my partner if she had been told not to pass ice and she said yes, but I did it anyway, I am used to working with "Anna" and she never does either, so it is no problem. We both went to the nurse, neither one of us had a problem with each other it was just this one trouble maker. I spoke with a friend of mine who worked with her at another facility and she has caused trouble from day one. On top of this all, I have been trying to get the disaster manual revised, it was written in 1998 and is full of problems, so I have read the fire plan three times this month, the LPN has never read it. God forbid that one of the residents were burning to death while she is arguing that I am not in charge.

Chad_KY_SRNA

423 Posts

Saturday night I worked 10-6 with another CNA and an LPN on the PC/ICF unit at my facility. The other CNA dissapeared several times during the night. At one point I asked the nurse if she had seen my partner. She said, "She's cleaning the wheelchairs". I said, " That means I get to pass ice, I guess". Shift goes on. We do two bed checks and then the CNA that I am with takes her 45 minute lunch break. Comes back and I clock out for my lunch. While I am on lunch she decides to pass ice. The nurse specifically told her that I was planning to pass ice and not to do it. She passed ice anyway. I clock back in and no sooner than the time clock beeps, the fire alarm is going off. We find where it is on the board and take off searching room to room. It said my unit had a smoke detector going off. A CMA and a CNA come down to help look. I am going from room to room on my hall and try to direct them to an area where I haven't searched yet. The CNA looks for thirty seconds and stands there in the hall. I ask her to go check the lobby and offices. She tells me, "Hey Buddy, your not the nurse and we don't have to take orders from you. I don't have to do anything until the nurse tells me otherwise". Turns out the nurse was on a cigarette break and had no idea that anything was going on. So they both leave and after my partner and I finish searching and determine that everyone is safe we were talking privately. I said something to the extent of "What is her problem, I am the most senior nurse aide down here and all I was trying to do was make sure that no one was in danger".

The irate CNA from before was eves dropping on the other side of the fire door and heard me say this. She called the nurses station, talked to me like a dog. She called me lazy and said that I hadn't helped me partner all night. When the facility was bought out we all filled out paperwork on the same day so no I was not more senior than her, and she was not going to listen to me which is untrue, seniority stayed the same. I told the nurse what all had happened and she had this CNA come down and talk with her about it. That CNA then decided to stay over and talk to the DON about me.

First off, how do you help someone when you have no clue where they are or what they are doing. I asked my partner if she had been told not to pass ice and she said yes, but I did it anyway, I am used to working with "Anna" and she never does either, so it is no problem. We both went to the nurse, neither one of us had a problem with each other it was just this one trouble maker. I spoke with a friend of mine who worked with her at another facility and she has caused trouble from day one. On top of this all, I have been trying to get the disaster manual revised, it was written in 1998 and is full of problems, so I have read the fire plan three times this month, the LPN has never read it. God forbid that one of the residents were burning to death while she is arguing that I am not in charge.

boulergirl, CNA

428 Posts

Specializes in Home care, assisted living.

Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. :smiley_ab :argue:

This CNA sounds like someone I used to work with years ago. She was not a shift supervisor but liked to carry on as if she was one. More than one she scolded me for being insubordinate and disrespectful to her (Umm, WHAT?!? We were BOTH at the bottom of the totem pole. She had no authority over me technically.) I went to the real shift supervisor and asked her if I was supposed to obey this woman--WAS she in authority? Nope. On another night, this same CNA gave the shift supervisor a heapin' dose of attitude. She didn't last long after that. Neither did he. (The supervisor quit because mgmt. did nothing about this CNA with a 'tude. As for her, she got fired soon after because she left the laundry room messy one night. Go figure...)

Chad, don't worry. The bad ones usually weed themselves out. You may have to write her up a few times before this happens.

boulergirl, CNA

428 Posts

Specializes in Home care, assisted living.

Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. :smiley_ab :argue:

This CNA sounds like someone I used to work with years ago. She was not a shift supervisor but liked to carry on as if she was one. More than one she scolded me for being insubordinate and disrespectful to her (Umm, WHAT?!? We were BOTH at the bottom of the totem pole. She had no authority over me technically.) I went to the real shift supervisor and asked her if I was supposed to obey this woman--WAS she in authority? Nope. On another night, this same CNA gave the shift supervisor a heapin' dose of attitude. She didn't last long after that. Neither did he. (The supervisor quit because mgmt. did nothing about this CNA with a 'tude. As for her, she got fired soon after because she left the laundry room messy one night. Go figure...)

Chad, don't worry. The bad ones usually weed themselves out. You may have to write her up a few times before this happens.

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traumaRUs, MSN, APRN

97 Articles; 21,237 Posts

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Hi Chad - nice to see ya again! How is school going? Like the above poster said - the bad ones get weeded out. Good luck. Stay in school - that's the key to the future.

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traumaRUs, MSN, APRN

97 Articles; 21,237 Posts

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Hi Chad - nice to see ya again! How is school going? Like the above poster said - the bad ones get weeded out. Good luck. Stay in school - that's the key to the future.

Chad_KY_SRNA

423 Posts

I hope she is the author of her own demise at my facility.

How is school... 3.3 GPA last semester, I think I am doing ok this semester so far. My best friend is graduating in May with her :nurse:ADN. :smiley_aa I have been busy busy busy. I suspect this will be me at the end of the semester:sofahider :chair:

Chad_KY_SRNA

423 Posts

I hope she is the author of her own demise at my facility.

How is school... 3.3 GPA last semester, I think I am doing ok this semester so far. My best friend is graduating in May with her :nurse:ADN. :smiley_aa I have been busy busy busy. I suspect this will be me at the end of the semester:sofahider :chair:

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traumaRUs, MSN, APRN

97 Articles; 21,237 Posts

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Too funny Chad - thanks for the update!

Trauma Columnist

traumaRUs, MSN, APRN

97 Articles; 21,237 Posts

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Too funny Chad - thanks for the update!

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