How Can Mercury in Vaccines Be Safe?

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Of course, I am aware that correlation in anectodal evidence is not the same as confluence. That being said, I still have to question the wisdom of putting a mercury derivative, thimerosol into vaccines as a cost saving measure as noted in the two previous links provided on this vaccine issue. The following link is NOT a scientific study, but it raises some valid concerns:

http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/mother_jones.pdf

As per this article, I would have to ask WHY would congressional Republicans want to add a provision to a homeland security bill exempting Eli Lilly Labs and other vaccine manufacturers from civil law suits regarding thimerosol? Why would they do that?

I thought it was interesting that when a physician found that mercury was contained in teething powder in the 1950's, it was found to be the cause of Pink's Disease which has symptoms similiar to autism.

It was disturbing to think about RH negative mothers receiving thimerosol containing injections of Rho D immunoglobulin at 28 to 34 weeks. And if they had several fillings in their mouths containing mercury, that's a heavy dose of mercury for an unborn child to be exposed to. And then, as a baby

he gets several more injections.

So now thimerosol is not supposed to be in the vaccines in this country.

Why is that? But, because of the use of multidose vials, the children in 3rd world countries continue to be exposed.

And, then there is the conflict of interest issues between pharmaceutical companies and regulatory authorities, the revolving door between jobs in the private sector and government. When that stops, maybe I'll believe the

NIH.

Specializes in PACU, ED.
What question are you referring to? Please clarify.

Don't get nervous folks, I don't have the energy for protracted discussion of this...

Maybe we need to look back farther in the discussion rather than go round and round. This previous post seems to indicate research is needed and I think that's what Karafromphilly was talking about.

Originally Posted by indigo girl

WARNING: This is not a link to a peer reviewed article. It does address however, the difficulty of getting funding for research regarding the possible adverse reactions to vaccines.

The FDA has oversight on testing the safety and side effects of medicines including vaccines. What specific adverse reactions concerned you?

The debate about mercury is very divisive within the autism community, and IMHO has been very harmful. Families can barely get adequate early intervention and now attention and resources are being redirected to mercury/chelation. It's pathetic.

I just had this discussion with my daughters' pediatrician. They no longer get vaccines that have mercury in them. She said they have not been using the mercury additive( I think they call it thermosil) for about 5 years now in her office.

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I just had this discussion with my daughters' pediatrician. They no longer get vaccines that have mercury in them. She said they have not been using the mercury additive( I think they call it thermosil) for about 5 years now in her office.

Correct, however, the pharmaceutical companies continue to use multi-dose vials with thimerosol in third world countries. It's more cost effective, you know.

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The debate about mercury is very divisive within the autism community, and IMHO has been very harmful. Families can barely get adequate early intervention and now attention and resources are being redirected to mercury/chelation. It's pathetic.

It's a fact, people have different opinions about this. Why can't we all agree?

It looks really bad when we don't. Some feel so strongly, they are suing.

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I just had this discussion with my daughters' pediatrician. They no longer get vaccines that have mercury in them. She said they have not been using the mercury additive( I think they call it thermosil) for about 5 years now in her office.

Well to be exact there is still trace amounts in some, some never had it to begin with, and some still have the full dose of thimerosal (mainly some of the flu vaxs that a lot of kids and adults both get).

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/default.htm

Here is a link from Johns Hopkins listing vaccines with and without thimersol, good reference for us all:

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

I'm glad your Dr is informed, let me tell you that when I took my oldest in to get her last vaccine a couple years ago I asked her for the thimersol free version and she asked "what is thimersol?".

It's a fact, people have different opinions about this. Why can't we all agree?

It looks really bad when we don't. Some feel so strongly, they are suing.

There are some that believe the push for the mercury/autism connection is setting up to sue the vaccine makers for as much money as possible. I don't know if I believe that, though.

I think to reach a middle ground, each group with strong opinions needs to be willing to give and take, something like this; "Children already effected with autism need all the help they can receive in their community, and all efforts should be made to make services accessible and affordable. There should be solid conventional treatments choices available for all like ABA, Floortime, and speech/occupational therapy. Biomedical treatments should be researched to be proven safe and effective, and offered to those who wish to follow that route. The cause or causes of autism should be continued to studied, including the possible link between mercury and vaccines. " Would that be so hard?

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There are some that believe the push for the mercury/autism connection is setting up to sue the vaccine makers for as much money as possible. I don't know if I believe that, though.

I think to reach a middle ground, each group with strong opinions needs to be willing to give and take, something like this; "Children already effected with autism need all the help they can receive in their community, and all efforts should be made to make services accessible and affordable. There should be solid conventional treatments choices available for all like ABA, Floortime, and speech/occupational therapy. Biomedical treatments should be researched to be proven safe and effective, and offered to those who wish to follow that route. The cause or causes of autism should be continued to studied, including the possible link between mercury and vaccines. " Would that be so hard?

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