HESI is Wrong ! Let's File Suit

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i go to school in montgomery co. texas and have done okay in the nursing program making mainly bs through out the course, but i am not good at taking nursing test. comming from a trade background i have found that when i look at the rationals to the questions i miss it is usually that i thought of things in a common sense way not a test way. that said i have suffered through and i am suppose to graduate in may and then comes hesi. i took the test monday, march 26 and missed passing by 53 points. i can take the test again on 4/27 but i don't like my chances any better at passing it then either, i just don't test well or i at least don't nursing test well. what gives collages the right to keep you from taking the boards if you have completed 2yrs of their bs? isn't the hesi about keeping the pass rate on the first try numbers up for the college? so they look good. i have decided even if i pass the hesi i am going to retain a lawyer and sue the college for it's practice and i think that if they are going to use hesi that they should just factor it into your grade and not ruin your life over one stinking test. i would like to hear some of your options on whether or not ya'll think we should bring a national class action lawsuit to stop this madness. some students in ca. sued and won the right to sit for the board even though they didn't pass hesi and i believe that we deserve that right too. (

Specializes in Cardiac.

I understand why there is a nursing shortage?

Lol... you're kidding, right?

You think there WAS a nursing shortage due to HESI?

Plenty of qualified people passed HESI. The nursing shortage that we enjoyed a few years back was due to actual nursing conditions...not a simple exit exam.

Lol..

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Specializes in Med-Surg, LTC, Rehab, HH.

If it wasn't the hesi then it would be the nclex. If not the nclex, its some sort of discrimination for not being hired, or discrimination for being fired. Always somebody elses fault.

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Specializes in being a Credible Source.

My school uses the ATI subject-matter tests as the comprehensive final for each class and the overall ATI for the comprehensive final in order to graduate.

I personally don't feel like it's a very effective means of teaching/testing but I knew this was their policy when I started and all of the students in my program are judged by the same standard. I chose to enter the program so the onus is on me.

I don't see where there's really much justification for all the complaining.

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I must say I have read several post and I feel like Hesi should be used for what it was intended for a marker, not an all or nothing deal. Schools have put to much emphasis on people not making the score needed and forgot they are educators if you see a deficiency help the student with remediation.

I recently completed a nursing program and did not pass the Hesi exam. I am not bitter or upset about it, I graduated with honors and was unsuccesful in three attempts to pass the exam. What I am disgusted about and considering filing a law suit about is, our school requires you to pass with 850, Some people were passed that didn't make 850 which is unfair. Who determines if we don't follow guidelines that have been set whether you pass/fail if the requisite score was not made. I question the validity and fairness in this process at my school.

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Specializes in being a Credible Source.

I'm prepping for our end-of-program comprehensive final: The ATI. Pretty much the same thing as the HESI.

So I got to thinking: What we need is a HESI/ATI preparation program!

Seriously, I'm not toooo worried about it but the whole idea that you have to effectively be ready to pass the NCLEX on the last day of your last semester is a little silly. I've been so buried with busy-work this semester that I've not been able to study nearly as much as I will in the four weeks before I take the NCLEX.

The notion that I could be denied graduation and the opportunity to even take the NCLEX because ATI predicts I only have a 75% chance of passing is ludicrous.

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Does anyone know of a lawyer that deals with educational law/policies? I am having a hard time trying to find one.

Thanks!

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I have a question about the Hesi exam. We were in the week of our finals when we had to study for it and take it. It went like this: Hesi test, then a reivew, then who failed it had to retake and pass or fail the nursing program. All in the middle of finals week. Due to trying to pass the hesi and all the studying I did for it to make sure I could go sit at boards I ended up dropping points in my ob class and didnt have enough to pass after my final. So I passed the Hesi and not the class. Is that fair? Is that they way it should be done. Either way, its a money maker for my school. I have written my states board to complain because I find that unfair. I had to pass both, so which battle was I supposed to choose here? Now I am out all the time money and my family is completely disgruntled because I have failed. Now I have to pay back school loans for something that I never got! Hesi was a dream killer for me! Any one have any suggestions? I am completely out of money, single mom, and not all that young anymore. Now I have nothing and I am so depressed. :crying2:

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re: tleach27

no i dont but if you find one please let me know!

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Specializes in TCU.

My school used HESI as a tool to figure out weak spots, so we could study appropriately for the NCLEX. In that context, I think it is an excellent tool.

We were told NOT to study for the HESI, and I was given what my weak points were: Delegation & Prioritization; worked on those extra and passed the boards last week!

Thank god my school doesn't make it mandatory to pass HESI, but then again it has a pretty good NCLEX pass rate. I think what happens sometimes is that schools use HESI to "weed out" those that they feel may not pass NCLEX, and in turn, "boost" their NCLEX pass rate (kinda sneaky if you ask me).

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Now I have to pay back school loans for something that I never got!

Um, education isn't like buying a washing machine -- no one guaranteed you a degree; you got what you paid for, the opportunity to take the classes in the nursing program. Whether you pass them or not is up to you.

I'm not a fan of using the HESI as a final requirement for graduation, but, if that's a school's policy and everyone knew that up front (i.e., they didn't spring it on the group out of the blue at the last minute), then the students don't really have much of a case to make against the school (that they're being treated unfairly). Time management for studying in finals week (how much time, when, to spend studying for each exam) is always a challenge at any school, for any major.

Will your school let you repeat the one course you failed? I do hope you'll be able to find a good outcome for your situation. Best wishes!

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All I can say is don't give up your dream. I saw this happen MANY times at my school and the students went back the next semester and did pass and become a RN. Just see it as another twist in the road but you will reach your destiny.

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To: LSW1956

Thanks! I wish I could go back but unfortunatly I dont have the money to continue. Plus the school I attended only allows you to fail 2 classes. And I fell on the ice in their parking lot during 2nd term and ended up not passing a class that term. I would have to start all over. Im to old and to broke for all of that. lol Maybe I can get a job in a Doctors office.

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