Hello fellow educators....I am dealing with a dilema which I have no control over as I am a staff member, not administration, but it is just eating away at my concious. My community college uses the HESI exit exam for the ADN and LVN programs. Regardless of how good your GPA is, clinical performance and so on....along April or so, you have to pass a "exit exam" with a score of 850 or better in order to "Walk with your diploma". If you fail to pass the test you are allowed to take it again. If you fail again, you are out. Don't pass go, don't collect you monopoly money!!!! The problem I have with it, and I am not alone in this, IS>>> a couple of students each year per program, fails the HESI, despite being quality nursing students and according to the census of most instructors would pass the NCLEX with no problems. Other schools in our area use the HESi,but as a tool to help the students focus on their areas of weakness. I feel we should not leave it up to a third party vendor to make or break these kids, who have put their lives on hold, pawned everything they own, just to be one of us.
Am I normal to feel this way? I have discussed it with other staff and told it is the policy of the college network, DON'T go there...etc.
Your viewpoints would be appreciated. I just want my students to all have a shot at NCLEX after proving themselves to me, not a private vendor.
I most certainly apologize it was not my intention to muscle in on some educators free space I was just trying to get some info I truly apologize for my forwardness .:imbar
My apologies too. I am glad to know that there are instructors out there who really do care for their students. I wish I had the pleasure to have met you guys. It's nice to be able to communicate with instructors on this site. Is there an instructor to student thread?
Students, I mean this in the kindest possible way....may I suggest that you take this discussion to the student portion of the site, and start a thread about HESI there?
This area of allnurses is for nurse educators, to allow them to discuss and exchange information that is of interest to faculty. I am sure you like having a portion of the site where you can discuss concerns with other students, and we like being able to talk to our colleagues as well.
So why wouldn't this topic be of interest to faculty, nurse educators on this forum? It is the faculty who let this Hesi go on even though they may or may not believe in it. If the faculty cared at all they would encourage us as students to voice our concerns not tell us to go some where else with it. This is what we get though for believing in our teachers, instructors when most could care less. I would like to thank the faculty, nurse educators who actually are advocates for their students, to those who do not back down b/c they are scared they may lose their job.
I have the same situation as you. My school recently regulated us to pass 850 on HESI. Why do we need HESI judge and determine our life. Why don't we fight for our rights to cancel this unfair school regulation? Sue school, I heard someone win.
I'm struggling with HESI. I failed for my first try. hope to pase the second. I wonder why I need HESI to determine my life and my career. I will fight for my school. In our school, last graduation, only 18% pass HESI, but 85% pass NCLEX. Who can say HESI is predictable for NCLEX. Why we need HESI for? I heard some law suit win lately. Every students who are required for HESI as your exit test, file the law suit, we need fight together. do not let HESI determine our fate.
I am in mourning. One of my classmates after a second attempt, finally succeeded in killing herself.
In her note, she said that she could no longer deal with the humilation, loss, and lies that the school had put her and her children through. She no longer had any money to repeat second year and have her grades audited as if she never earned them to begin with. Which were the only choice the school gave them.
Its been so painful dealing with how our school used their students as escapegoats for their own curriculum's deficiencies. I feel if the students had any deficiencies that it would of been nipped in the bud to begin with. The school was wrong to wait until you completed the entire program, to have taken all of your money, to a use a diagnostic test to withold your degree, and holding only the students accountable and not the faculty.
I am in so much pain on the loss of my beloved classmate. She would of made an excellent nurse. She stated in her note, that she wishes that faculty would of stood up for what is right. Faculty had told us many times that they do not believe in the exam. But, they also told us they were afraid to speak up against the vice chancellor in fear that they would lose their jobs. We had no advocacy. A few classmates have obtained an attorney regarding the matter. Others just gave up. I don't know what to do. Who do I write to? Who can help make this change? How can our story be known? I feel helpless and hopeless.
This maybe the last time I write here. I am in too much pain and confused about this whole HESI vs. NCLEX conspiracy. I lost my friend because of it.
I am in mourning. One of my classmates after a second attempt, finally succeeded in killing herself.
In her note, she said that she could no longer deal with the humilation, loss, and lies that the school had put her and her children through. She no longer had any money to repeat second year and have her grades audited as if she never earned them to begin with. Which were the only choice the school gave them.
Its been so painful dealing with how our school used their students as escapegoats for their own curriculum's deficiencies. I feel if the students had any deficiencies that it would of been nipped in the bud to begin with. The school was wrong to wait until you completed the entire program, to have taken all of your money, to a use a diagnostic test to withold your degree, and holding only the students accountable and not the faculty.
I am in so much pain on the loss of my beloved classmate. She would of made an excellent nurse. She stated in her note, that she wishes that faculty would of stood up for what is right. Faculty had told us many times that they do not believe in the exam. But, they also told us they were afraid to speak up against the vice chancellor in fear that they would lose their jobs. We had no advocacy. A few classmates have obtained an attorney regarding the matter. Others just gave up. I don't know what to do. Who do I write to? Who can help make this change? How can our story be known? I feel helpless and hopeless.
This maybe the last time I write here. I am in too much pain and confused about this whole HESI vs. NCLEX conspiracy. I lost my friend because of it.
I will never see her, again.
I don't understand...
what a horrible thing .. i am so sorry .. how horrible ... that poor woamn and her family... that dang hesi test... i hope your school re evlauates the hesi test... i send you my love and prayers .. and i am sorry this happened....
i am so sorry this happened... what a horrible thing... i send my prayers to you and your families and classmates... what did your school say about this?
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I most certainly apologize it was not my intention to muscle in on some educators free space I was just trying to get some info I truly apologize for my forwardness .:imbar