Grades- do instructors round up?

Bicster · May 16, 2009

I sure get sick of C students implying the A and B students are lacking in compassion and good bedside care. In my experience, these qualities are not related at all, and C students are at no advantage in these areas.

Of course there is no connection. Marginal students/people need to find fault in people that are more successful, even if that "fault" is made up.

jollydogg_RN, ADN, BSN · May 16, 2009

I sure get sick of C students implying the A and B students are lacking in compassion and good bedside care. In my experience, these qualities are not related at all, and C students are at no advantage in these areas.
In my school, there was no rounding. They told us in advance, and I was okay with that. If you are relying on rounding up to get yourself through nursing school, you probably should consider another field.

im pretty sure the argument that was first made, and what this whole discussion is revolving around, is that people like bicsters, mohleee, and others are saying C students make mediocre nurses.

Not the other way around.

jaysmom · May 16, 2009

Very true, some people aren't very good academically but at least in my class, we actually have less than C students who have several clinical write ups and N/A's and truly lack any common sense. Our teachers have told us that they no longer have the ability to let someone know that maybe they are in the wrong field and wasting their time. They have to find a way to make them pass. Falling asleep in class and showing complete disregard to patient care in clinical doesn't show compassion or good bedside care. If we see someone struggling academically that is truly trying and has a good heart we have as a class organized after class study groups to help them along. Pushing students along with extra work and make up tests just to keep numbers up isn't doing a service to them or the patients that they will someday care for.

jollydogg_RN, ADN, BSN · May 16, 2009

Of course there is no connection. Marginal students/people need to find fault in people that are more successful, even if that "fault" is made up.

Me and the other person posting never said that C students are better bedside nurses. We said we are just as qualified to practice nursing as the A students.

Do you think a nurse will be remembered because they made a 4.0 in school? Or do you think they'll be remembered for being caring, compassionate, and competent?

YOU are the ones that keep saying that C students will be mediocre nurses. How would you even know that? Have you even graduated nursing school and practiced nursing on the floor? What gives you the right to say that?

Curious to know. Have you conducted your own research on this fact? Do you have undisputed proof that "C" students IN FACT make worse nurses? Or are you just banking this idea on grades? I believe its the latter.

If you don't have undisputed proof, then I suggest you just keep on through your school and stop making such statements. I have worked with a few LPNs who could seriously outwork a few seasoned nurses on a unit. Everyone has knowledge to pass onto everyone. Everyone can benefit from the ideas and opinions around them. Doesn't matter if you make a 3.0 or a 4.0.

jaysmom · May 16, 2009

When I said that the person who scored 75% should consider retaking the course to master the material, I meant so they could get a 95%...which is what I consider mastering the material. Are you proud of your 3.0 because you truly feel like you have mastered everything they have taught you? I highly doubt it. IMO, 3.0 is nothing to be proud of. To me, saying you're proud of your 3.0 is like saying "I'm only going to work as hard as I absolutely have to just to get by and no harder, and I don't really care how well I know the material."
C nurses are nurses, too, but who's to say they are as good as the A nurses? You go ahead and take the nurse who barely passed since he/she won't be "snobby," because I want the smart snobby ones for myself and my family!

You can have your snobby A/B nurse... I am going to be a great nurse A's and one unfortunate B+ but not snobby. I think cocky is a better word than snobby. There is always room for improvement and not having the ability to acknowledge that is not going to make you a better nurse. The "C" nurse with compassion that is willing to recognize her weaknesses and learn to improve may be far better than the A nurse that thinks he/she knows it all! Brains aren't everything. That post sort of makes me ashamed to be strong academically... it might make some think that those of us who can "get the grade" lack the common sense it takes to make good choices. Good luck with your snobby or should I say cocky nurses and the care and compassion you and your family receive.

jaysmom · May 16, 2009

A quote from my department head in the first week of school... "What do you call the doctor that graduated last in his/her class? Dr." Same with nurses, your patients will never ask you what your GPA was in nursing school. I think I might pay to see the reaction of any health care professional who was asked what was your GPA in school before they treated someone in the ER! That would be great. We should all strive to do the best we can and absorb all the info we can in school and all of the experience possible in clinical. Those people that are in it just for the money someday and are squeaking by with C's out of lack of care however will hopefully be weeded out by the NCLEX.

Bicster · May 16, 2009

A quote from my department head in the first week of school... "What do you call the doctor that graduated last in his/her class? Dr." Same with nurses, your patients will never ask you what your GPA was in nursing school. I think I might pay to see the reaction of any health care professional who was asked what was your GPA in school before they treated someone in the ER! That would be great. We should all strive to do the best we can and absorb all the info we can in school and all of the experience possible in clinical. Those people that are in it just for the money someday and are squeaking by with C's out of lack of care however will hopefully be weeded out by the NCLEX.

Certainly you arent equating a "c" dr with a "c" nurse?

~FutureNurse~ · May 16, 2009

I sure get sick of C students implying the A and B students are lacking in compassion and good bedside care. In my experience, these qualities are not related at all, and C students are at no advantage in these areas.
In my school, there was no rounding. They told us in advance, and I was okay with that. If you are relying on rounding up to get yourself through nursing school, you probably should consider another field.

Not that it matters--but I'm not a C student--and no, I wasn't implying that all A/B students lack in compassion. Just that, I can tell, from the few posts I have read from some people on here that they are lacking in compassion. I am a B student, but, I do not think I am better or will be a better nurse than a C student. None of us really knows what kind of nurse we will be. We have not actually practiced nursing, yet! Once again, different people have different life situations. I will never ask a nurse how she did in school--she did well enough to pass! I will however, ask for a different nurse if I ever encounter a nurse who acts like some of the people on this thread! Since everyone is so "mediocer"...I hate to see they way some of your patients are going to be treated. When a poor, mediocer, homeless man comes in--I hope you don't treat him any less than you would treat an "above" average person..you know such as yourselves.

Editorial Team / Admin · May 16, 2009

Think this thread needs a time out.

Closed for cooling off...