O-1 vs. O-1E requirements

  1. Just curious what the requirements are to be enter as an O-1E (officer, prior enlisted).

    I have just a few days short of 4 years prior enlistment time, but I've read that the Air Force requires 4 years and 1 day prior enlistment to qualify as an O-1E.
    I would fall literally less than week short of that requirement. I thought that I've read someplace else that the military can use a "point system" to see if a person would qualify for the 'E'. Is that true because I cannot really find anything about there while searching online?

    Any information regarding the O-1 to O-1E would be helpful!
    Thanks.
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  3. by   Skeletor
    From what I know, you do in fact need to have served four years and one day in order to assume the rank of O1-E.
  4. by   jeckrn
    You need 1460 points as an enlisted and this covers all services.
  5. by   missmiss
    ok, great!! 1460 points.. now how do I figure out how many points I have or how to do that calculation??
  6. by   jeckrn
    1 day equals 1 point
  7. by   carolinapooh
    I just got accepted to COT and have four years prior enlisted service in the USAF. I am not an O1E (there's really not that great of a pay difference, anyway), but I was given five years, ten months, and eight days time in service because they use some sort of multiplier to give you credit for your inactive time.
    Last edit by carolinapooh on Jul 4, '09
  8. by   Skeletor
    $358.80/month difference from O-1 to O-1E pay rate if given credit for 8 years TIS (factoring in a completed initial military obligation of 8 years).

    http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables.html
  9. by   carolinapooh
    Which isn't thousands by any stretch of the word. I'm happier about the time in grade they gave me (which means I'll make 1st Lt a whole lot sooner and will be eligible for Capt much sooner as well) and am not worried in the least about the E.
  10. by   Skeletor
    Quote from carolinapooh
    Which isn't thousands by any stretch of the word. I'm happier about the time in grade they gave me (which means I'll make 1st Lt a whole lot sooner and will be eligible for Capt much sooner as well) and am not worried in the least about the E.
    $4,305.60/year
  11. by   carolinapooh
    Still not tons of money in the grand scheme of things. The time in grade is more valuable, because you'll make the rank quicker.

    Personally, I'm going to take my fifty-seven grand a year and I'll be more than happy to shut up and color with it.
  12. by   jeckrn
    What is the time in grade that they gave you? TIS does not count towards promotion only for the pay scale. There is also a difference with housing also.
  13. by   carolinapooh
    Quote from jeckrn
    What is the time in grade that they gave you? TIS does not count towards promotion only for the pay scale. There is also a difference with housing also.
    Nine months TIG; 5 years, 10 months, 8 days TIS. I'll make 1st Lt much faster and be eligible for captain sooner as well. And I'm not an E because part of the TIS is converted IRR time. (Since they do that, I don't get why the 'E' is relevant anyway - credit folks for their TIS regardless of how many days they have and pay them accordingly. The E means nothing for promotion or anything else other than pay. You can't look at a Lt with an O1E designation who's my age or myself without it and tell the difference unless you ask.)

    The pay computation they gave me of course counts BAH.

    The difference in housing, to me, is more significant than the difference in pay because the housing is actually/technically worth about 25 to 30% more in the first place since it isn't taxed. By the time the Feds and the state (if your HOR requires you to pay income tax) get their cut, you've lost most of it anyway.

    At any rate, the OP should definitely speak to a HP recruiter.
    Last edit by carolinapooh on Jul 4, '09
  14. by   jeckrn
    That is right IRR time does not count towards the "E" since you do not earn any points for being in the IRR. Sounds like you had less then 4 years or 1460 points of active duty enlisted. The housing difference does add up over time and as you move up in grade and the pay difference as you move up in years on the payscale. OP needs to speak with their recruiter since things are easier done before you sign then after.

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