Glutton for Punishment?

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Preface: Sorry this is so long, summary at the bottom.

So I got into an argument with these two women about the fact that there is absolutely no law on the books about BSNs being required by 2020 (also including LVNs being phased out of hospitals). I told them I've been an nurse for 7 years & have heard that since I started. The first woman told me that she was told this by an advisor at her daughter's school, who is a nurse with advanced degrees. I told the first woman that the advisor shouldn't be spreading such lies without documentation to back up what she is saying. I was also shocked that someone with an advanced degree would say something like that with no proof.

Needless to say the second woman got pissed off too & jumped in on the bandwagon. I asked both women several times for proof of the 2020 rule/law but never received anything. I did get shown an op/ed piece from the second woman but now law stating LVNs would be allowed to work in hospitals & all RNs would be forced to get their BSNs.

Both woman continued to bash LVNs & talk about how this nurse new more about this "law" than me. How LVNs kill more people in acute care & how unsafe they are. Did I mention that neither women are nurses! LOL!

I provided them with proof that LVNs are still being hired into hospital positions in the state of Texas as well as ADN grads. I tried to explain to both of the women that it isn't a law but up to the hospital if they want to hire LVNs, ADNs or BSNs. But according to those to, in 2.5 years all the LVNs & ADNs working in hospitals will be SOL & out of jobs.

Do they know something we all don't? I asked for proof over & over. Where is this magical law that states LVNs can't work in hospitals & RNs *must* be BSN prepared to work in hospitals by 2020? I figured you guys could lead me to the law since those two couldn't.

i guess I just like beating my head against a wall for funsies. Because that's what it was like. No matter how I tried explaining to them, it could've been in any language, they didn't believe me. Probably because I'm "just an LVN". But because an RN with a BSN & MSN told them, it *has* to be true.

It just blows my mind that 2 "educated" people can't realize that after a simple Google search what that nurse said wasn't true. Just because someone says something, doesn't make it a fact.

TL;DR: Two women said the BSN by 2020 was a law (also LVNs being phased out of hospitals), I tried to show them otherwise. They didn't believe me because they were told so by an RN & I'm "just an LVN". Neither women are nurses nor could they show me any proof of said law while I showed them proof of LVNs & ADNs being hired in TX hospitals.

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
Not much to say after they drop foolish comments like this. It's exceptionally rare for nurses to kill people in their care.

Don't mud wrestle with a pig... the pig enjoys it and you just get dirty.

Lol now I want *that* quote on a shirt! Lol!!!

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
Stupid isn't a choice but ignorance most certainly is.

I'm starting to think people enjoy being ignorant, no matter how painful.

Specializes in Critical Care, ER, Cath lab.
Lol yes!

Although, I think some people don't choose it. It's in their DNA.

As a former firefighter and paramedic, I can attest to this first hand.

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
As a former firefighter and paramedic, I can attest to this first hand.

Oof. I bet you see a lot of stupid. >.

Specializes in MICU/CCU, SD, home health, neo, travel.

I've been hearing the same things since I started in 1986, which shows you how old that garbage is. I also quickly learned that there were LVNs (LPNs, in my state) out there who knew a heckuva lot more than I did. Several of them saved my butt when I was a new nurse and beyond that. Moral of the story...believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
I've been hearing the same things since I started in 1986, which shows you how old that garbage is. I also quickly learned that there were LVNs (LPNs, in my state) out there who knew a heckuva lot more than I did. Several of them saved my butt when I was a new nurse and beyond that. Moral of the story...believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Yeah, that garbage has been going around since probably the dawn of nursing. Lol. I'm not concerned & I'll get my BSN when *I* feel like it or when I'm forced to. Which from the look of things around when I live, isn't any time soon. There are a lot of LVNs I've met who could run circles around RNs. I met an LVN once while I was a patient that I thought did a *much* better job than his charge nurse!!! But you know what they say, we're just "little pretend nurses".

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