German guy wants to know where to study for Nurse practitioner?

[wadid]

Hi,

I am a german guy and currently residing in Germany. I studied computer science and finished with a bachelor in that field. But I decided it is not really what I am into. My mother is a nurse and my brother studies medicine. When I had a look at what nurse practitioners do, I found the job pretty interesting and it seems you can build up some competency in that field with a good salary.

When investigating about the possible paths to get into that field I found a lot of barriers.

Germany has nothing really like nurse practitioners. Bachelor takes here 3 years minumum. Ok, Education is for free and you even get a salary when you take the 4,5 years bachelor.

The pathway over America seemed interesting as it offered accelerated Bachelor of Nursing or direct entry in Master programs. But then I realized that American education is expensive as ****.The most rich society has the highest costs for education? Really? Totally I would need to spend houndred of thousands of dollars to reach the Nurse Practitioner level. They are crazy. Also I heard that these accelerated programs are not recognized internationally.

When looking into the possibilty to study in Australia I also realized that you have to pay for your education. But much less than in America. Unfortunately they have no accelerated programs. Also the biggest con is that for studying a Master degree for Nurse practitioner you need to prove 5000h (three years full time) of specialized work in nursing. Also to get endorsment as a nurse practitioner you need to prove these hours. That would mean you have to spend money and three years bachelor. Then three years working. Then again spend money and study two more years. Total 8 years. Are they kidding?

Then I looked in other countries like philippines where the education is much cheaper. But I guess the level is a bit below the western societies education. And there are no accelerated programs. And I guess there is a difficult bridging process if you want to transfer from that country to a western society country.

Ok my questions:

Which countries have accelerated programs for people who already possess a non nursing bachelor?

Are there any internationally recognized accelerated programs?

Which countries are very cheap to study and dont cause a lot of trouble in the bridging process when I want to transfer to another country?

Which countries have good salary for nursing practitioners and dont require a ******** of hours of practice before getting a registration in that field?

Is there a way to combine different countries to do all that quick and cheap? :-D

Regards,

wadid

[loriangel14, RN]

What country are you planning on working in? Usually it's recommended you get your education where you plan on working. While it's true that being an NP is very lucrative it also requires a lot of work and time. There are no shortcuts. You need to get your BSN and nursing experience first. You cannot be an effective NP with no nursing experience. Yes it can take as long as 8 years and much money. There is no guarantee that a degree will be recognized in another country. Each country had its own requirements.

[wadid]

US is too expensive....

Australia takes way too long....

I dont really want to stay in one country, we live in a globalized world...

[meanmaryjean, DNP, RN]

US is too expensive....

Australia takes way too long....

I dont really want to stay in one country, we live in a globalized world...

Not when it comes to practicing nursing,

[wadid]

Yes I think you are right, but considering the future challenges with an older getting population I can't believe that the future will not bring a reduction of the bureaucratic barriers.... Interesting would be now where to invest my energy now, so it will bear the most fruits in the future.

Do you know if there are some regulations underway in some of the mentioned countries which will facilitate international recognition or making it more easy (quicker, cheaper) to study?

[meanmaryjean, DNP, RN]

Yes I think you are right, but considering the future challenges with an older getting population I can't believe that the future will not bring a reduction of the bureaucratic barriers.... Interesting would be now where to invest my energy now, so it will bear the most fruits in the future.

Do you know if there are some regulations underway in some of the mentioned countries which will facilitate international recognition or making it more easy (quicker, cheaper) to study?

My friend, the future only promises more red tape, more bureaucracy, and increasing regulation. Not less.

[Fiona59]

Suck it up and study in Germany. As yo, yourself pointed out the population is aging.

With Frau Merkel's migration policies, you have a huge aging and multicultural population to care for.

Money is nice, but you need the skills to be a NP and many accelerated programmes for no nursing degree holders isn't going to cut it. Do you understand the history of the role you covet? The skills and experience those nurses have/had?

[nosileia]

Dear Wadid,

I suggest you read the thread "ahpra refusal". You will realise that Australia won't grand registration to nurses from Europe. Also, I would suggest to do a research on the registration process in each state of the US as standards and requirements are different. UK are in a big need for nurses and Ireland as well at the moment.And for the time being registration within EU is guaranteed. The money is not great though as in the US. US pays well, but be careful, it is a tricky thing to get registration when you do not hold a US bachelor. And indeed no one can predict what will change in the future. In my opinion bureaucratic procedures are indeed getting more complex with the years. I would suggest you follow your cheapest option. Have you considered working in the Scandinavian countries? I understand the conditions are good there for nurses.

Good luck though