what would do you in this kind of situation? - page 3
what would you do if you go into patients room and find out that patient have expired and patient is a full code?... Read More
Dec 18, '07Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 6,083; Likes: 9,211Quote from joyflnoyzOKAY then. I guess I'll skip the "no g-tube" tat on my abdomen and the "no thickened liquids" tat on my throat.I've actually looked into this. No Go.
It's not a legal document, EMS will not honor it.
Didn't think to check to find out if they'd honor it if signature of MD was tatooed there though...
In Massachusetts it IS legal for RNs to pronounce after calling the doc. If this is going to be a conversation about ethics, then let's talk about the ethics of doing CPR on a 98 year old even if you do find them before they get cold. As several other posters have said, families often have very unrealistic ideas. I went into a room once-patient in bed with 02 running...obviously dead. His wife was sitting there. I told her I was very sorry but she wouldn't believe that he was dead because 'no alarm went off'. She then explained to me that she watched ER every week so she knows 'lots of medical things' and every time someone with that machine (she pointed to the oxygen concentrator) dies, an alarm goes off. She wouldn't listen to my explanation so I had to call the doc to come in and tell her (you can imagine how pleased he was to have to actually do the pronouncement). Luckily the man was a DNR but......