Everyone makes salient points. My initial point was that we do not value the so called "helping" professions. Primarily nurses/teachers/social workers. They have traditionally been jobs held by women (entirely different thread) and consequently seen as "noble callings" and "vocations" not professions. We pay lipservice to the value of these jobs but our words are not reflected in pay scale. Society's perception of jobs seems to play an immense role in how people are reimbursed. I wonder if people think those of us in these roles are bucking for sainthood. Professional fulfillment and commensurate rate of pay do not have to be mutually exclusive. How much of the current pay scales are due to a nursing shortage? What were the initial causal factors of that shortage? (I know we all know the answer!)
As to RN's having 2 years of education and a good starting salary: I have a Bachelors in Social Work. The first two years of university were spent in general education classes. Only the last two years focused solely on my major, including my practicum. Therefore it could be argued that my B.S.W. is really only 2 years of education related directly to my former field of practice. (Now I am just playing devil's advocate, but you see my point?)
Yes it does look wonderful compared to the rates of other four year degrees.....Yet how many of you feel your undergrad classes the pre-req's were really necessary and relevant? ( I mean history, philosophy, lit ect. I loved those classes primarily because I am a curious nerd thing, but how many people just wade through em cause they have to?) Should our 4 year programs have an overhaul? Or is it just people want to say "I went to such and such uni I have a four year degree..." Lets face it we all know idiots with bachelors, masters and doctorates...Education is like anything else....it doesn't guarantee a better professional.
RN2007's point is well taken....How many people do have the stamina, the physical and psychological resources to "hack" nursing? Again it could be argued "not many, or some but not for their entire professional lives...."
As to the Docs....Malpractice insurance
cost has spiralled completely out of control. Again examine the causal factors.. are there bad doc out there....sure. Yet there are probably far more nuisance lawsuits and overinflated awards than there are (one would hope) incompetent physicians.
Okay I am just digressing all over the place here! Sorry, multiple, related issues...
Kev to answer your question:
That was my whole initial point. There is no truly viable way to arrive at a dollar amount that incorporates parts of nursing that are intangibles. However I do agree with happystudent regarding "level of education, demonstrated competence, experience." (Which oddly enough brings us full circle to bsn v adn...lol)
Good luck to everyone in your chosen programs. Ya'll obviously have the critical thinking skills part down.....