Why do Nurse's wear there degree on there name badges? - page 7
I have never had anyone give me a straight answear to this question, Why do nurses wear there degree on the badge uniforms? I see few other people in the hospital setting that do it except for... Read More
Aug 14, '01How about we eliminate RN and LPN altogether, and have our badges just say "nurse?"
That should eliminate any hard feelings.
Aug 14, '01Originally posted by Susy K
How about we eliminate RN and LPN altogether, and have our badges just say "nurse?"
That should eliminate any hard feelings.
I believe it is important to have LPN and RN on a name badge since they have two different job descriptions. Why would there be any hard feelings?
Aug 14, '01If I may interpose in this squabble, Just what does BS stand for? (I presume the N is for nurse/nursing.
Aug 14, '01mcl4, as you say, the purpose of the name badge is for identification and for security reasons. I would argue that part of identifying oneself for informed consumers is to let them know your education and specialty certifications. And even if you disagree with that argument, since the listing of relevant licensure, degrees and certification does not interfere with that primary objective of identification and security, why NOT take advantage of the opportunity to display your credentials and maybe, just maybe, help educate the public about who nurses are and what we do? [/B][/QUOTE]
You would have to convince me a significant amount of sick patients are interested in how a nurse is educated or is interested in hearing that some BSN had to sacrafice both years and go into debt during this process. Patients are in and out so quickly today, there is limited nursing time to educate them with what they will need to know upon discharge.
Patients and the public received their education watching area hospital nurses go on strike recently. Salaries and control over nurse/patient ratios were the focus of the strike and I was surprised to see that the patients, as well as the general public, had little sympathy for the nurses reasons to strike. The salaries were publish in the papers and the public felt nurses were receiving an adequate salary and should not go on strike. Actually, people wrote into the editorial that they were upset with the nurses since their elective procedures were cancelled due to the impending strike. What I took away from this recent experience was that patients and public are mainly concern with themselves and that they receive safe quality care and not interested in a nursing agenda. As the shortage of nurses continues to worsen, perhaps they will look at nurses differently?
Aug 14, '01[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stargazer
I have been following this thread with interest. Since I am posting anyway, I have to say I am with Susy K. here. I used to wear my nursing pin and my hospital 5-year pin on my name badge, and I had many, many patients and family members over the years who asked me about them or where I went to school and what kind of degree I had. I would never initiate a conversation about this myself, but even in ICU, sometimes people want to be normal for a minute and talk about something other than their own illness.
My conversations with patients who initiate conversations outside their illness tends to focus on their lives. It might include them telling me how many children or grandchildren they have to what their occupation is. I use to wear my nursing pin, but I didn't have patients inquired about the school it represented. Perhaps it is a regional thing with many many patients and family members inquiring about your nursing degree or school you've attended. No one wears their nursing pin on the current station I work on. A few nurses did at my previous employement.
Aug 14, '01i am also one of the donosours (?sp) who graduated many years ago from mass. general hos. school of nursing. have degree and certification, but the only initials after my name are R.N. i think it is a personal decision as to what you want-to each his own! i am just proud to be an R.N. and brag about my school of nursing MGH- (which is no more).
Aug 14, '01donmurray,
BSN = Bachelor of Science in Nursing. Its a 4 year degree instead of and Associates Degree in Nursing, which is normally a 2, sometimes a 3 year program.
Aug 14, '01Donmurray,
You are correct and I have had the same question myself, and have never gotten a truely straight answer. There are some nursing schools that award a BSN as Brandy has said a Bachelor of Science in Nursing and some that offer a Bachelor of Science Nursing. Some of my instructors credentials were BSN, MSN, and some were BS, MSN, but there undergraduate work was in nursing, and yet their credentials did not say BSN.
I have an associates degree and my degree says Associate of Science Nursing and when we did our resumes we were docked points if we said we had an ASN. Some degress are ADN, and some are AA.
So if anyone has the answer to the different degree definitions I would love to know as well. I am looking at going back to school for my Bachelor's degree and there are two schools that I am looking at and one offers the BSN and one offers the BS.
Thanks! I am sure that I missed this in class somewhere!! LOL OOP's forgot to add that I never thought about this when I was in school just after I started looking at different programs available. That is why I never asked this question in school I guess I was pondering different things at that time, (getting through the program in one piece) LOL.
Y2KRNLast edit by Y2KRN on Aug 14, '01
Aug 14, '01Odd
a BS normally refers to a liberal arts and science degree of sorts . Maybe that is with the same concept as a Bachelor of Science with a business emphasis?
a BSN for a Bachelor of science Nursing, or a Bachelor of Science in Nursing is the same degree. The wording often varies by state, and accredidation. I believe the wording is a University/College preference.
Does that help? or did i make it more confusing?
Aug 14, '01Brandy,
Thanks for the reply I had the same line of thinking that you did about the University and College aspect, but both schools I am looking at are Universities. UCONN BSN URI BS. Maybe all it does mean is that with the BS, is that you have a Bachelors of Science with an emphasis in nursing. Even degrees can get confusing!!!!!! I guess it all works out in the end!!!
Aug 14, '01MCI4, there are three pages to this thread PRIOR to your posting, this is where my reference was, not everything is directed toward you I have to disagree with you about what one sacrifices for each degree. You see, I was 18 and had parents paying for my school. I chose not to sacrifice the single, partying life for school, SO I waited until I was older and life was a little harder and paid for it myself. My point is that if someone is dedicated enough at 18 to finish a BSN, then they ARE sacrificing. If you have a family and choose to obtain an ASN, you are sacrificing. But the younger sacrificed a bit longer. If we're able to sacrifice for two years for the ASN, then what stops one from sacrificing four years for a BSN? Desire. So, again, those who sacrificed LONGER (longer=more) than I did in order to obtain a BSN have every right to wear their credentials, PROUDLY. If they wish to tattoo them to their foreheads, that's their business. Because the nurse next to me has a BSN and I have a ASN doesn't make me feel less a nurse, it shouldn't you either.
Susy stole my thought..if you're so opposed to credentials being listed, then we can just do away with all titles and be called "Jane Doe, Nurse". After all, the public is ignorant and doesn't view any difference between nurses or job descriptions, so why does it matter if we differentiate? Heck, even the CNA's can go by "nurse". I, like susy, have had many conversations with families about the credentialing of nurses and there is much confusion. The credentials on tags definitely are an eye opener for the public. I really don't see where anyone has a right to debate this. As an ASN RN, it's embarassing to me, because it shows that some of my fellow nurses with associates degrees feel inferior to the BSN. If you do, you should sacrifice (as the others did) and obtain your BSN..and wear it proudly
Aug 14, '01Nurse4Kids said:
My point is that if someone is dedicated enough at 18 to finish a BSN, then they ARE sacrificing. If you have a family and choose to obtain an ASN, you are sacrificing.
Aug 14, '01Ok, lets see here, I NEVER implied that I was "better" than an RN who has an associates degree. mcl4, I see that you are an LPN? I respect LPNs although I do not work with any in my current position. The reason that I do not work for a hospital that pays a differential is that the hospital that I now work for does not pay a differential. My job switch was based on the fact of being a lot closer to home and $4 more an hour than what I was making at the hospital where I was previously employed.
So, as I have stated in previous posts, because I chose to further my education and obtain a 4 year college degree, then I should be permitted to wear that designation on my name badge.
I have discussed with patients, when they have initiated the conversation, where I went to school. I proudly tell them that I have a Bachelors Degree. I too worked as a CNA through my final year of college. This gave me great time management skills and prioritizing skills which have proved useful in my nursing career.
I sacrificed things while in college because even though I was living with my parents, I still had to pay for things like gas, books, food, uniforms and my car. My parents paid my car insurance for me while I was in college and didn't charge rent. So I worked 3 to 4 days a week(8 hour shifts) in a restaurant near my home to afford those necessities.
I stated in an earlier post that I had started out at a diploma based hospital school of nursing but flunked out. There were only 2 other colleges in my hometown area that offered nursing programs. One was a Catholic private university and the other a public state university. It was cheaper for me to go to the state school for 4 years than to go to the Private school for 2 years for an ADN. Since I had to pay for college myself, I chose to go to the 4 year program. At that time, I didn't know in what direction that I wanted to go with nursing, so I decided that I would be better off obtaining the BSN.
And what does learning Spanish have to do with this topic?