What CNAs need to tell the nurse

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in a postop, i want to hear about:

pain level (could indicate compartment syndrome or that dose needs adjusting)

c/o nausea/vomiting (could indicate an ileus)

bp over 140/80 or under 90/50 (lots of reasons, but needs treatment)

temp over 100.4 (some temp is expected in a postop patient, but after a certain point, the doc will want stat blood cultures)

but in the stroke patient, a temp over 99 needs to be reported (stroke patients need treatment for any temp over 99f)

a previously alert, oriented patient becoming confused. (could be an infection, a stroke, low o2, or a low blood sugar, but needs immediate investigation)

please save or show me any bleeding, any diarrhea, any discharge, any vomitus, and any urine that is not clear yellow or stool that is not soft, formed and brown.

if you notice any change in temperature or color of the skin of an extremity, please tell me. (a cold, white extremity could mean a clot and is an emergency)

if you find any pills in the bed, save them and tell me.

(some patients carry their own stash and can od themselves by accident)

please let me know if anyone has any trouble breathing or if their o2 sats are 92% or less or if their respirations are over 23. (the patient may need o2)

please let me know if the patient's heart rate is not regular or if it's over 100 bpm. (patients with an irregular heart rate might have a more accurate blood pressure when taken manually.)

Hello to all the great nurses that serve humanity, A great big HUG to each and everyone of you, Thank you, for all that you give and do for others!!! I've been a CNA for 20 years, and just beginning my journey to become a nurse. I have learned so much as a nurses aide from the caring nurses that I have worked with,so much more than I could ever know from a book, my life has been so richly blessed, because someone took the time to teach me nursing, or to make me laugh, when I wanted to cry,cos the job stress became too unbearable, a kind word and a loving heart can lift our spirits up beyond measure!! So nurses,:balloons: If you have an aide that is not performing too well, tell them so, and also tell them what they are doing right, may I suggest the buddy system, partner them with a mentor, a CNA that can be a good example, we are never too old to learn!! I send you abundance of LOVE and heartfelt Thank you to all of you for being NURSES. FLO BORTELL,CNA

Specializes in Nursing assistant.

Here is a new twist on this helpful topic: how to tell the nurses. Sometimes we ( the cna's ) are running pretty fast, and the nurses are very busy, but we might need to communicate some little variation or suspicious sign or symptom. Is it appropriate to give notes to the nurse, instead of interupting them to speak?

Specializes in Neuro ICU, Neuro/Trauma stepdown.

i used to do this in the nursing home. i can see their med cart in the hall, but they are in a room with a patient and i'm on my way to do something, i just tuck a not in the mar (somewhere they would see it, but not sharing the info with the world). unless it's something important. if so and so wants pain meds, chances are she's on her way there now. in the hospital now (and now i'm a nurse) my techs and i all have phones, so we just call each other.

Specializes in Nursing assistant.

I really appreciate that. I think I will start doing this. I don't want to drive my nurses crazy!

Specializes in Neuro ICU, Neuro/Trauma stepdown.

well, also...if i knew they were smoking i leave a note on the desk b/c i know they will come back there first. and if they are on the phone with the doc and i've got recent vitals ( or similiar situation ) i'll slip them a note.

Specializes in Nursing assistant.

Thanks! This may help!

A couple of pages back someone said something about not getting a total knee up......we did that all the time. Different doctors, different parameters.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack either. Carry on Nurses.

Yep, we do it every day. Usually it's pt who gets them up for the first time, but after that the CNAs and nurses get them up to the commode or chair. Today, I had to get a total knee nwb up to the commode a total of 10 times in an 8 hour day, she had a bladder infection. As long a you use appropriate techniques it's not a problem.

Where I work we all use clipboards so if someone needs to communicate something to us they can stick a note on our clipboard where we know it'll be seen (clipboards stay in the nurses st or wallaro so the world can't see any info) If it can't wait they track us down and tell us. A side note, someone mentioned a few pages back about CNA's telling nurses critical info an the nurse looks at them with a clueless look. I've been there. When I started working as a CNA (nursing pre-req at the time) I had worked as an EMT for years so I knew what was important and needed to be addressed ASAP. I don't know how many times I would go to this particular nurse and get a blank stare. After awhile I went to my charge with the info. I would much rather have a CNA tell me something un-important than not tell me anything at all. The CNAs spend a lot more time with the patients and probably know them better than anyone.

Specializes in Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics.

I wish our floors would hire more CNAs...last time I checked there wasn't a shortage. The nurses are already overloaded with 7-8 pts each and on the weekends, maybe more. Then the CNAs have twice that! It's amazing anything gets done at all! Both individuals being so stressed and behind all the time does nothing but strain the working relationship.

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