To Male Nurses! - page 6
O.K., men, I've got a couple of questions to ask you! First a little history. I was asked by the vice-president of nursing (a female, by the way), along with a few other male nurses who work at... Read More
Jan 5, '03Joined: May '01; Posts: 12,080; Likes: 15,906JTOD - I was going to ignore your response.
You know what? I am going to ignore it! "I.Rae" pretty much expressed my sentiment too. Just re-read her response.
TedLast edit by Ted on Jan 5, '03
Jan 5, '03Occupation: RN Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 2,065; Likes: 48Originally posted by Rustyhammer
I believe you are perhaps thinking that certain careers will give you respect while others will not.
I have been a nurse for 16 years now and have EARNED the respect that I have.
You can wear a shirt and tie to bed if you want. You will have the same amount of respect as when you wear .
I believe it's the attitude and pride you carry, the effort you put into your job that decides what you get out of it.
If you really want to be a butler or a shoe salesman and love the job then you will have the respect you yearn for.
You cannot expect others to respect you until you first respect yourself.
PS..LR also asks Alan....why you disrespect blue collar workers?...my dad was one....l have more respect for him than any one else....had NOTHING to do with hes job.........
Jan 5, '03Joined: May '01; Posts: 12,080; Likes: 15,906Originally posted by Rustyhammer
Oh and Ted?
I think the video is a GREAT idea.
ps: sorry about getting off on a tangent.
Gosh! I do it all the time! Makes my wife's head spin! :chuckle
In fact, one day, while walking through the park I saw a bird fly in the sky and poop in my eye. . . .
P. S. What were we talking about?!?!?!?
Jan 5, '03Occupation: forensic analyst Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 9You might think of asking why do men leave nursing. In the year I graduated (1994) there were 5 of us in our class . Since then 1 became a physician assistant, 1 left for oil field related industry, 1 got his MSN and teaches nursing, 1 still works as bedside RN, and I left nursing science for medical science (pathology).
Jan 5, '03Occupation: ER RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 20; Likes: 1As a RN that happens to be male; I did it for altruistic reasons, I looked in the paper and saw a ton of jobs for RN and decided I could do that. Further research pointed me towards PA school. I did the 2 year RN degree and decided I liked what nursing had to offer, now 13 years later I know I am right. I work 2 days a week (every weekend) for 24 hours for 36 hours pay and have off 5 days. I have figured out every way to get extra pay where I work with putting in as little time as possible.
My brother is a fireman and works 10 days a month (24hr shifts) and I work 8 days per month (12hr shifts) my 96 hrs look pretty good compared to his 240hrs.
I fish during the week when everyone else is working, hunt during the week.
Jan 5, '03Occupation: OR Staff Specialty: O.R., ED, M/S ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 1,295; Likes: 364Hey alansmith52, you are a loser as far as I am concerned. Get out of nursing while you can and stop demeaning yourself. I agree with Mark_LD_RN, why is it taking you so long to get something you despise? Were you in a thread awhile back about how much you hated nursing? This sounds all to familiar. I sure would hate to have you taking care of me if I knew how much you hated to come to work each day. I have been doing this for 26 years now and sure beats alot of other jobs where I have to compete each day like it was a gladiator match. it's nice to go on aknowing ahead time that the job is yours if you wanted it. You can't say that with alot of other professions. Now would be the time to go and get another skill and leave nursing to us guys, gals also, who appreciate it. I get so steamed at people like you who just waste every day of their lives doing just the minimum, just getting by. Good luck, I hope you find something REAL SOON! Mike
Jan 5, '03Occupation: nursing Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 155; Likes: 20Hmm, When i was 8 i liked "cool" stuff and macho stuff. Hit them with I was a U.S Marine, now im a nurse! (which i was) I was a police officer/fire fighter/heavy equipment operator now Im a Nurse! So on and so on. Then show them some of the cool stuff nurses get to do! I would go easy on the caring stuff! In my opinion that would turn 8yr olds off. This im sure is gonna be a very difficult attempt at recruit youngsters into our proffesion. Most likely unsuccessful but I strongly admire your attempt! If You want to recruit 18yr olds headed to college show them big money and good working conditions and it might make a dent in the shortage! Best of luck and think about posting on the net when done so we can watch it.
Jan 6, '03Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Originally posted by 911fltrn
Hit them with I was a U.S Marine, now im a nurse! (which i was)
Jan 6, '03Joined: May '01; Posts: 12,080; Likes: 15,906Appreciate the input provided by everyone. Also appreciate the variety of ideas and suggestions!
Like I said, the topic of this video is not my idea. Hopefully I'll be asked to help produce an educational video to recruit nurses regardless of gender.
In the meantime. . . I'm going to have fun with this project. The due-date is April 1st, 2003, so there isn't a heck of a lot of time to write a script, shoot the scenes, write some music, edit the video and mix-down to a final product. And you know what?!?!? I am going to savor every moment of this project! Of course when it is done, I'll at the very least put up a portion of the video for all to view!
Always, in my book. . . ."Nurses Rule!" And again, my deepest respect to you all. . . to US all. . . as we face the challanges of a chaotic healthcare industry. . . and as we Make a Difference to the lives of countless people.
Jan 6, '03Occupation: Air Force Nurse Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 13I think the point of your hoispital's message should be to identify and address job stereotypes. I suggest taping a guided discussion with a group of 8th graders. Ask questions like "Do you think it's o.k. for men to be nurses?" I think you'll find they will address this issue quite well. Some will say no and some will say yes. Promt discussion from all viewpoints. This will give you an idea of how you need to focus. You might even use a video tape of the discussion in your add. Think about it. Who are 8th graders going to listen to, adults or other 8th graders?
Jan 6, '03Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 8Ted, thanks for working on such a great project. I hope you let your administration know that other hospitals and probably nursing schools would be interested in a video like this. I bet they could charge a small fee and be able to recoup some of their costs for the project. Just a thought.
When I started nursing school last year, I was talking to my day care provider about it and her son (7th grade) told me that I couldn't be a nurse "because only girls are nurses"! It totally floored me and even his mother. She told me she had no idea why he would say that, but I do. We all know what boys are like and how much they have to avoid anything remotely "girly". I think once they see the techology side and the fast paced areas, their attitude will change a little, of course they will never admit it!
I'm not actually a nurse yet, another semester to go! But I have been a Registered Cardiovascular Invasive Specialist for 7 years now. I went into health care to help people and make a difference in people's lives. I'm going into nursing because the opportunities are virtually endless. As an RCIS I am limited to a Cath Lab, as a nurse I am limited only by the choices I make (and my scope of practice). I wish we could really pass along to the next generation (male and female) what they can do with a nursing degree. I know I was amazed to find out how many "types" of nursing there are out there and how people use their nursing degree to branch out into other areas, like designing computer programs for health care.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Jan 6, '03Joined: May '02; Posts: 827; Likes: 42Just a little off the subject, Ted...... I asked my 13-year -old son who is in the eighth grade if he had ever considered going into to nursing, he stared at me, incredulous,and said,"Are you crazy! Nurses are so gross!"
Maybe I've been taking work home with me too much.
Jan 6, '03Occupation: Nurse Joined: May '02; Posts: 162; Likes: 8Why did I go into Nursing? On the up side I love the technical stuff, the hands on stuff, the helping people stuff, the teaching stuff, and the saving lives stuff. Of course it has its down side. I hate the paperwork stuff, the political stuff, the rivalry amongst our own ranks stuff, the off shift stuff, and the working on weekends and holidays stuff.
I got my original Nursing training in the Army, where I was a Nurse for 16 years. It is possible to mix the military aspects that 8th grade kids find fascinating (well some of them do) with the nursing aspects that some 8th grade kids will find fascinating, even if they would rather expire than admit it. That would be just one small facet of men in nursing, but not one that I'm sure should be ignored. Many of us made a career in the military as Nurses are still in Nursing or (like me) have returned to Nursing. I guess I'm trying to say, show as wide an array of males 7 females in nursing as possible. Granted that Nursing is still very much a female dominated field, but these kids should be shown that Nursing is a gender-neutral field.
As to Nurses being respected as a field, I've always felt that respect was earned by an individual and not granted automatically to someone because of his or her job title. Most physicians seem to think that by merely being a physician they are entitled to instant respect. They tend to come across with the M-Deity syndrome. That type of attitude can be adjusted by how you carry yourself as a Nurse. Ok, I'll admit that being 6 foot one inch and 200 pounds has helped me tame more than one wild physician, but I've seen many a physician tamed by my 5 foot 3 inch, 120 pound wife who is also a nurse. The field has less to do with respect than the individual who is in the field.
I like the idea of the tape and I hope it is a rousing success. You ought to convert the whole thing to an AVI file and up load here for our viewing.