Thank you to you all! - page 3
It's so easy to sit behind this computer and read of all your struggles and the advice about unsafe staffing and disrespectful behavior towards a nurse. I've read about some of you filing lawsuits... Read More
Aug 21, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: CV-ICU ; Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,343; Likes: 51I was on a panel for a CE class this past winter, concerning patient abandoment. In doing research for this class, I did look up info for different states concerning patient abandonment. No state BON will charge you for pt. abandonment for not giving a 30 day notice to the employer.
As a matter of fact, in many states the BON will not charge you with pt. abandonment if you would even quit a job just before a shift because of unsafe staffing or putting your license in jeopardy, or concerns for patient safety. (I don't remember which states those were right now, so check with your own BON). There are even a few states that seem to implicate and/or sanction the facility for short staffing!
You might want to check at the National Council of State Boards of Nursing at www.NCSBN.org for more info. There is lots of good info here, just type in key words or phrases into the search box and you should find out about the pt. abuse, short staffing, and all of the rest of the problems you had with that facility.
Actually, here is a sight at NCSBN that gives even more info (broken down into a state by state index) to you for pt. abandonment: http://www.ncsbn.org/public/news/state_shortage.htm
I hope this helps you. There are many facilities that threaten that if you don't work mandatory overtime, etc. they will "report you to the BON for pt. abandonment" or they will "take your license away for..." and this is just an intimidation technic.
I believe every nurse should get a copy of their own Nurse Practice Act and read it and know what it says. This in itself may give us all courage to stand up to threatening bosses and supervisors and also speak out against pt. abuse and mistreatment.Last edit by Jenny P on Aug 21, '02
Aug 21, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 4,738; Likes: 104I'm proud of you for standing up for yourself and doing what i've wished I could do. Hope all works well. Somewhere, there is another workplace that deserves you more!
Aug 21, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Youda - this is so great to read. I hear about rising health care costs, and shortages of staf and equipment, and know what your talking about. I can only behold at all the nurses have to keep track of. Recently, after working 12on/12off for 2 times my additude and energy level changed. It took two days being off to recover.
With you, you don't want to play around, and I envy your power to do this. Think of what you will learn, and the great events yule imagine in reading a cool novel. Don't go incommuticato too long :-) Ask them to admitt they are trying to make you the fall guy and let you legidamately take a week off as "basket" leave.
We all make mistakes, and that includes mistakes in: staffing, planning and throwing around blame when a situation gets buzzed. You know what I mean. Sounds like this is happening with you, and don't let it get out of control mentally. You know :-) More power to you! :kiss
Aug 22, '02Joined: Nov '00; Posts: 931; Likes: 18Update. I called my BON and told them in detail the situation. My fear of going back when they already put my license at risk with unsafe staffing, then blamed it all on me when all the patient's needs weren't met. I told them a bunch of other stuff that has concerned me, too. Also told them about their 30 day rule of "abandonment" if you don't work out a 30-day notice. They looked up the names of nurses who had quit without notice, and sure enough, the complaints were filed against them, some of the outcomes still pending.
In Missouri, the BON's policy is to consider the employer responsible for staffing and employment issues, not the nurse or the BON. However, they investigate every complaint on and individual basis. So, the chance is there for penalties, still. Also, even if you don't get any kind of action by the BON, the complaint still shows up on your license forever more.
So, their recommendation was to walk back in the door. Hand them a 30-day notice as they require. BUT, if I feel the slightest hint that my license is at risk, or they are going after me, nitpicking and looking for an excuse to nail me, the BON said to take the risk and GET OUTTA THERE! If I am going to be reported, for one thing or another, they said the lesser of two evils was what I should consider. "Abandonment" by not giving notice that would be iffy and not a big deal in this situation vs. some med error or forgetting to sign a MAR or something which the BON will take more seriously.
Bottom line. I'm going in to work today, with my 30 day's notice. A copy sent to the BON and a copy to my attorney. With a nice big cc at the bottom of the page so this idiot outfit knows exactly who knows I'm quitting and why.Last edit by Youda on Aug 22, '02
Aug 22, '02Occupation: Occupational Health, W/C Coordinator Joined: Apr '01; Posts: 88; Likes: 1Wow, Youda!
I am SO impressed with your professionalism! You have done yourself and, hopefully, your patients a BIG favor!
The bit about the CC: to the State BON and to your lawyer on your resignation would take an ignoramus to ignore!
Good luck on your job search!
Please keep us posted on this.