Staff Nurses Who Refuse To Precept Or Teach? - page 6

Of course I understand that not everyone wants to be a teacher or professor but a few of my coworkers lately have down right refused to precept or even be a resource to newer or less experienced... Read More

  1. by   getoverit
    Quote from NuGuyNurse2b
    Good. I'm not sure when this turned into you being petty about people disagreeing with your comments, but good for you.
    I'm not being petty about anything. You have characterized and judged me without understanding what I've written, even after I explained it to you in details I think are easy to get. I don't care who agrees or disagrees with me and some people try to argue the same point that's already been made. It's like talking in circles and clear you're more interested in some kind of back & forth, I was just trying to lighten it up because you made me laugh. So whatever...cheers to you sir.
  2. by   katprit80
    This same type of nurse is probably the same type that complains how we aren't viewed as professionals. Well there ya go!
  3. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from All4NursingRN
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    All nurses should have pride in their work/profession enough to want to share their wealth of knowledge at some level. You may not pursue a masters in nursing education or a PhD but you can still be a resource for you unit and colleagues, that's at least the minimum that should be required of you.

    *sigh* just venting.
    I'm enjoy sharing knowledge within the context if an actual teaching session. However I'm not a fan of taking student nurses for the most part. We had some enrolled nursing students last year in two seperate blocks. The two I had for the first block were absolutely brilliant, keen and eager to learn, more than happy to help out with cares, feeding and just spending quality time with the patients. And when I could spent time with them to impart clinical knowledge about the nursing care/issues present on our unit.

    The two I had for the second block were incredibly young and I spent most of the time having to spoon feed them every single little thing which was exhausting.


    My first priority is to that of my patients, their families and my Employer. If students can fit in around those, great, however if they cant, its better not to stick them with me

    Its not about not wanting to teach or share the knowledge. Its about realising that we all have our own limitations and acknowledging those. And to be honest its about self care. If I dont look out for my own welling, I'm no use to my patients
  4. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from 3ringnursing
    Every one of us were precepted, without exception. We all had to learn from someone else first. I always felt it was my JOB to precept when called upon to do so. I never minded because I never forgot that feeling of being new and knowing squat. Or at times being unwanted, feeling like a millstone around another nurse's neck. I'd rather they be with me than someone who would be hostile. Being new is scary.
    This is such a polar approach. I dont want to precept. period!

    That said would I every be anything less than 110% professional or refuse to help out a new nurse or point them in the right direction if i didn't know the answer, no.

    Its not black and white people, one can wish to not precept, it doesnt mean they have to be hostile, rude or non helpful to the new nurse
  5. by   NuGuyNurse2b
    Quote from getoverit
    I'm not being petty about anything. You have characterized and judged me without understanding what I've written, even after I explained it to you in details I think are easy to get. I don't care who agrees or disagrees with me and some people try to argue the same point that's already been made. It's like talking in circles and clear you're more interested in some kind of back & forth, I was just trying to lighten it up because you made me laugh. So whatever...cheers to you sir.
    I don't see it as you trying to "lighten" anything up. You seem pretty salty. Your initial response to me was that you thought I was wrong. Your flawed logic has been countered by a few other posters on this board. It had nothing to do with being the popular opinion, which is how you (mis)interpreted what I wrote.

    And "characterized and judged" you? Can we say drama? You are the one who has been judging those who don't want to precept. Please follow the posts you wrote and what others have responded to your post. But nice try at playing the victim here.
  6. by   getoverit
    Quote from NuGuyNurse2b
    I don't see it as you trying to "lighten" anything up. You seem pretty salty. Your initial response to me was that you thought I was wrong. Your flawed logic has been countered by a few other posters on this board. It had nothing to do with being the popular opinion, which is how you (mis)interpreted what I wrote.

    And "characterized and judged" you? Can we say drama? You are the one who has been judging those who don't want to precept. Please follow the posts you wrote and what others have responded to your post. But nice try at playing the victim here.
    Your opinions are meaningless to me. You seem to have an elementary school approach to debate, you clearly don't even understand what I've written. You use my quotes back at me in ways that don't even make sense and show your profound lack of basic understanding as you still can't explain what my position actually is. you have proven me correct, but your intellect will probably prevent you from understanding this as well. I tried to keep it civil and light, you aren't interested in anything other than trying to bait me and I'm not going to sink to your level anymore (regrettably, I did for awhile). I'm not going to respond to your childish/ignorant comments but that's not to be interpreted as you "winning" whatever it is you think you're doing. I honestly feel sorry for anyone with the misfortune of having to spend time around you.
  7. by   Irish_Mist
    I think new grad nurses, newly hired yet experienced, and nursing students alike benefit more if NOT placed with a staff RN who has openly stated they hate teaching. Just because you like to teach doesn't mean everyone does. One can take pride in their profession and not want to teach. I happen to enjoy teaching and am applying to a MSN with a concentration in education track next fall. Not everyone shares my passion and that's okay.
  8. by   mrcleanscrubs
    That behavior is typically seen in those with, "Queen Bee Syndrome." The, "Queen Bee" believes he/she has worked so hard to get to where he/she is currently, and thinks that those "below" him/her should "suffer" just as much as they have to gain knowledge and advance themselves. Very unfortunate to see established nurses not want to guide student nurses or newer nurses. Everyone was a beginner once, this snooty behavior is not acceptable or professional.
  9. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from mrcleanscrubs
    That behavior is typically seen in those with, "Queen Bee Syndrome." The, "Queen Bee" believes he/she has worked so hard to get to where he/she is currently, and thinks that those "below" him/her should "suffer" just as much as they have to gain knowledge and advance themselves. Very unfortunate to see established nurses not want to guide student nurses or newer nurses. Everyone was a beginner once, this snooty behavior is not acceptable or professional.
    What a load of malarky!
  10. by   JKL33
    Quote from mrcleanscrubs
    That behavior is typically seen in those with, "Queen Bee Syndrome." The, "Queen Bee" believes he/she has worked so hard to get to where he/she is currently, and thinks that those "below" him/her should "suffer" just as much as they have to gain knowledge and advance themselves. Very unfortunate to see established nurses not want to guide student nurses or newer nurses. Everyone was a beginner once, this snooty behavior is not acceptable or professional.

    We'll be glad to have you in the trenches once you get your nursing degree! How long do you plan to stay and help orient new grads?
  11. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from mrcleanscrubs
    That behavior is typically seen in those with, "Queen Bee Syndrome." The, "Queen Bee" believes he/she has worked so hard to get to where he/she is currently, and thinks that those "below" him/her should "suffer" just as much as they have to gain knowledge and advance themselves. Very unfortunate to see established nurses not want to guide student nurses or newer nurses. Everyone was a beginner once, this snooty behavior is not acceptable or professional.
    What a load of moldy heifer dung!
  12. by   TruvyNurse
    When I worked in the hospital, I had students follow me from time to time. The instructor that came with them really irked us because she felt she was a better nurse than all of us on the floor and questioned everything we did. Not in an educational way for the students but in a rude way not in front of the students. We wanted to ask that her students come back but she stay home! Lol! Back to the point, any of us nurses who stood up for ourselves and our decisions, the instructor suddenly would stop letting her students follow us. It was ridiculous and junior high like. I heard she is not an instructor anymore...
  13. by   Racer15
    Quote from All4NursingRN
    Oh my what a Pandora's box I have opened.

    Then I wonder what if no one on a unit wants to precept and this I ask speaking from experience.

    Two years ago every nurse the manager approached refused to precept so she had to mandate someone... oh boy what do you think of that then?

    Well I'm thankful for those who precepted me way back when, whether they felt like it or not at least they were professional enough not to let it show and exercise patience and I'm sure with me under their wing it wasn't that bad at all (as that I was released from orientation early as a new grad working trauma, yes I am bragging)

    It's just precepting it isn't the end of your nursing career, I'm sure most of you aren't approached to precept a new nurse every 6 weeks like my current job (our turnover is horrendous) and goodness $1/hr extra for precepting, what a joke!
    Oh there are several nurses in my ED that love to precept. Because they are incredibly lazy and make their preceptees do literally everything on their own, while they sit around and play on their phones. These new nurses come off of orientation drowning, and don't last long. If management is so into hiring brand spankin new nurses in the ER, they should train them, because I don't have the time.

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