Redbook Magazine article slams NPs - docs warn public to stay away from NPs - page 2
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Oct 30, '02Occupation: Retired Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 2,246; Likes: 48Next will probably be an article about NPs advising people to avoid Redbook.
By the way, all these publications LOVE to have feedback, negative or positive. It makes the writer of the mentioned article appear to be widely read and taken seriously, which only increases his/her marketability and pay, and makes the magazine think that people will now buy and read it, if only to see what this writer is up to next. The ONLY thing they really care about is if advertisers cancel ads.
Oct 30, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,755; Likes: 16,278Letter in progress. The more I thought about it, the angrier I became. Rather than react emotionally, however, I will compose a calm and articulate letter pointing the error of their message in that article and if they wish me to continue subscribing and recommending this magazine to my friend/family (nursing and NON nursing alike), they will kindly print a retraction of this statement! Thanks for your encouragement, guys. This is an issue near and dear to my heart, as you can well tell and I SICK of seeing NP's and CNM's maligned by ANYone either in public or by our esteemed AMA.
Oct 30, '02Occupation: Women's Health NP Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 107; Likes: 2That really pi**es me off!!!! Need I say more? I don't read Redbook, so I hadn't read this article until I saw it on this thread. Not to brag, but I too have patients who don't even WANT to see the Doc. They say I'm more gentle, take more time to educate, and give them that little extra TLC that we Nurses are so good at dispensing. It was irresponsible for them to print that, even if a Doc did say that. By printing it, they are lending it some credibility, even if they are Redbook. Like someone else above said, they should stick to fashion and Faith Hill.
BTW, I think that link above to "webmaster" is just the e-mail address to report problems on the website. I looked for a feedback e-mail, but didn't find one. Maybe we'll have to write letters. Does anybody have a copy of the magazine that lists the address for letters to the editor? Thanks a million!
Oct 30, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,662; Likes: 46"REDBOOK MAGAZINE
If you'd like to send a letter to the editors at Redbook magazine or Redbook Online, just fill out the form at http://magazines.ivillage.com/redboo...293006,00.html
and press 'Send'. We'd love to hear your thoughts and ideas! By submitting a letter you grant Redbook Online and/or Redbook magazine permission to publish it if we so choose. Due to the volume of mail we receive, we cannot respond individually to everyone. "
Oct 30, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 228; Likes: 2Following is the email I sent them, no name, not to be published. I do not trust published letters to the editor - in their editting they often make subtle changes that change the entire tone of a letter and the letter writer is denied any say in the final letter.
I just wanted them to get this in their email box, even if they delete it before reading it:
I have just heard of your column in which YOU published the statement, "do not allow yourself to be brushed off onto NPs."
How dare you print such a damaging statement with such little thought? Especially when the damage is to your own readers.
I suggest you poll your readers. Ask how many have been brushed off onto NPs. Then ask them how they feel about that experience. I have faced a number of patients who have felt brushed off before I gave up the nursing field entirely. In every intance, I validated the patients concerns. They had expected to see a doctor and they were seeing me instead. I would then offer to have the receptionist make another appointment for them to see the MD (usually in a week or two, not under my control) or, recognizing they had made a trip in expecting to see the MD, I would try to get him to come in. I would also offer to try to help them with the problem they had since they were there.
Please note, this happened more often than it should have. I repeatedly asked the front desk to tell a patient they would be seeing an NP, not a physician. It was unfair to me as well as the patient.
Some patients chose to wait then until the doctor could see them. Some chose to reschedule. In those cases I apologized for the inconvenience. Most chose to see if I could help them. Once they did, they generally asked to see me all the time. I listened to them, I heard their problems, and I tried very hard to make sure the needs they had would be met - by me, a specialist, or the physician.
Ask your readers. If you hear what I expect you will hear, I expect you to print a very large and very public apology. There are nurse practitioners who continue to persevere in the hostile environment created by such one sided, thoughtlessly published tid bits as you published. Most do it because they realize they are among the only ones left who will try to hear what the patient needs instead of doing whatever is necessary to get them out of the office fast.
I am no longer among this group. I have abandoned patients as a result of continued harrassment and disrespect. I have been told I was wrong to waste the time it took after I asked a depressed patient if she thought about hurting herself and she said yes. I was told I should not have asked. The physician seemed to feel that the patient might not act on her suicidal impulses (she might not), and if she did, we would not be at fault as, not having asked, we could not have known.
I hope some NPs will remain. I will get sick one day. I want to see an NP when that happens.
These are comments. I do not want my name published, or the contents published. In the current health care climate true statements about how bad it really is are generally met with some form of reprisal.
Oct 31, '02Occupation: student nurses, BSN students, Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 819; Likes: 27nurses should FIGHT BACK. Nurses, need to aggressively pursue PR which strikes home the message that nurses provide in many cases SUPERIOR care to physicians, espcially when cost is considered (and cost in the end determines the amount of care which CAN be delivered. A dollar saved very well might mean a lived saved in care being offered to someone who would not otherwise receive it.) There are more nurses and they should be able to MORE than match any efforts on the part of the AMA and their lackeys. Furthermore, doctors need to know that they will pay a retalitory price for such defamation in the form if equally incisive PR counterstrikes. According to at least one post I read a politician on the East coast is being politically attacked for advancing the scope of practice of CRNA's. In other states (MASS I think) legislators are trying to institute PRICE CONTROLS upon agency nurses. These efforts and ones like the RedBook article amount to an attack upon all nurses and should be met with the full fury that can be mustered by the profession.
Oct 31, '02Occupation: correctional nurse Specialty: ER, ICU, Corrections ; Joined: Jul '00; Posts: 1,187; Likes: 131I can't believe that a magazine would publish an article like that. I haven't read a Redbook in 10 years but I can't believe that they would write something like that about NP's.
I would much rather go to an NP or PA than a dr anytime if I could. Right now I have a doctor due to the fact that I just had surgery, but all the NP's and PA's that I have worked with are caring compassionate people that take care of the whole person.
Where I work at now, if I schedule someone with the MD's that we have, most of the time they will come back and want to have things explained to them since the doc didn't do a very good job. Also I have clients that would much rather see our NP than the doctors. Her schedule is much more fuller than any of the doctors. I think they are a great group of people and should be highly recognized for the work that they do.
Oct 31, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 2,276; Likes: 42I also love the NP that I see. She is very good with me and with my sons. She always asks them how their 4H projects are going, how is school and such. She works for a family physician who is in solo practice (a dying breed). I guess my family is spoiled because I know that no matter who we see the doctor or the NP we will get the best care. Our family doc says that his NP is his right hand and he would be totally lost without her....I wonder if the doc in the article had ever had an NP work with him. My guess is probably not....
Oct 31, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,662; Likes: 46<Our family doc says that his NP is his right hand and he would be totally lost without her...>
I wonder what his (and her) response will be when he sees the Nov issue of Redbook & that article. They should both write to that magazine & give them the facts.
Oct 31, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 1,079; Likes: 53Horrors! and this from a magazine that tells women to fake their orgasms for their husbands sake....
Oct 31, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,755; Likes: 16,278I have sent them a letter. If anyone is interested in what I wrote let me know. I left NO doubt as to my opinion of this poorly-placed and thought-out comment from the writer.
Oct 31, '02Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 11The wait to see my primary care physician is at least 3 months. I have never actually been to see her! Instead I choose to see a NP because I can be seen in a weeks time.
Oct 31, '02Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 3,354; Likes: 62I'd like to see what you wrote, Debbie. Please post!