Out of nursing program cause i am smoker!!! - page 13
Help, I am at risk of being out of the nursing program because I am a smoker. I really could use some advise on how to deal with a very unfair instructor. I am a first year PN student and we... Read More
Jan 14, '07Joined: Dec '05; Posts: 14Hi again everyone. I just saw the post was back open. I thought I would update you. The papers were written. She didn't want them for a grade, so I told her in the papers how to deal with lying and how she didn't handle things well and backed up my point with sources. On the how to quit smoking papers I told her all the ways I have tried. She probably thinks I have never tried. I have been on medication, the patch, etc. So I told her about the side effects and why they didn't work for me.
My grade is reinstated. In fact I pulled her aside on Friday and told her I am done being upset over this incident. I also told her I appreciate her dedication to the program (she is there many evenings). From now on I will be keeping track of any other unfair things she does, whether to me or other students, however if I do anything about any of it, it will be after I have my degree in my hand. I am going to do my best to get along with this instructor.
Jan 14, '07Occupation: staff nurse Specialty: Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics ; Joined: Mar '05; Posts: 1,783; Likes: 108good for you. Hopefully you will not have any further problems with her.
Jan 14, '07Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 481; Likes: 47Quote from misstaz25:hatparty:
My grade is reinstated.
Jan 15, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 1,306; Likes: 243good for you... but be careful when you call somebody names on here! There are 180,000 nurses on here and you never know which one is your instructor!!
Jan 15, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 230; Likes: 14Quote from buddiageGee, alot of ideas:
Say you are around parents that smoke, but you don't.
write the paper on the nasty habit of smoking and do a comparison to eating candy, and how much it costs America to take care of people that inflict thier own health problems on themselves.
Her accusations, as you described them, are way out of line. She is not a dictator. She has people she answers to.
Other than that, the only thing you can do is limit your smoking so your fellow students and patients do not smell it.
I hate the smell of smoke and what it does to me. If you are considerate, then I think you should be able to smoke all you want.
You sound considerate and respectful.
The problem with the candy issue is that yes, people do stupid things with their health. The only problem is , patents don't have breathing difficulties etc. when some one they are sitting beside eats a snickers.
Jan 15, '07Occupation: student Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 44nothingLast edit by MountainMan on Jan 15, '07
Jan 15, '07Occupation: rn Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in cardiac ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 574; Likes: 220I'm glad that you got your "A" that you worked hard for. She has issues obviously. Keep a file on her if you must. Just get through the program that "you are paying for." Nursing schools are a business and run as such. My point is...if you tick certain instructors off they can make your life hell while attending their program. Some even goes as far as to not pass students because they don't like them etc. They don't care if you pass or fail, they still get their money even if you are thrown out of the program. So no matter what, they are still making a profit off of you and every other student that attends there. Good Luck in your future studies.
Jan 15, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 192; Likes: 22Maybe I'm way off base here, but I see the bigger issue as being Patient Abandonment.
The instructor assigned a three page paper to be written on this subject.
I'm interested in knowing who the student reported-off to when she left the clinical floor to go out and smoke.
I know in my clinicals that I had to report-off to the licensed primary, another student, and my clinical instructor in order to leave the floor.
The S.N.'s right has been discussed at length. Was her pt.'s right to care addressed? What would a resonable Nurse do?
Jan 15, '07Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 9,601; Likes: 3,188once a patient told a nurse who had returned to floor after lunch that she must have had a hamburger because she had onion on her breath
pt must have told supervisor because at report next morning she asked that staff consider what their breath might smell like after lunch
i haven't smoked in 25 yers but i cannot smell smoke on another person but the perfumes and aftershaves etc will send me into uncontrollable coughing and gasping for air
Jan 15, '07Joined: Jul '05; Posts: 101; Likes: 37Quote from JaneyWActually, there has been research showing the harmful effects of second hand smoke breathed in from people's clothing.
I have never heard of this, so I looked into it. Here is some of what I found:
"There is no research in the medical literature about the cancer-causing effects of cigarette odors, but the literature shows that secondhand smoke can seep into hair, clothing, and other surfaces. The unknown cancer-causing effects would likely be minimal in comparison to direct secondhand smoke exposure, such as living in a household that has a smoker." ~www.cancer.org
I agree that the tobacco odors definitely stick to skin, hair, clothes, etc. But then again, whenever I go to a Chinese or Mexican restaurant, my clothes and hair smell like the food and grease for hours afterwards! I wonder, then, if someone was allergic to some ingredient used in those foods, if they could have a reaction simply by my being in the room?
Jan 15, '07Occupation: Happily in Nursing Education! Specialty: 13 year(s) of experience in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 2,757; Likes: 415When I was in nursing school, and if I had been told that my instructor would not allow smoking even if it is not the school policy I would have been requesting another instructor right away! Yes, I am a smoker...but also I don't like the idea of one instructor thinking they are beyond the rules set down by the organization...one of which I PAY out the nose to attend! No no no...that would have sent my red flags flying, and I would have been scared of what power trip she would be on all semester! Frankly...you don't need the extra added stress of that!
We had no rules like that in school, and frankly...it wasn't untill graduation time did anyone find out that I smoked! They were shocked! But I kept it for times out of school, made sure my clothing was fabreezed and I had showered (then no smokes till after school so my hair wouldn't smell). I didn't do that so that people didn't know, I did that for my patients. They didn't need to smell my smoke, so I didn't do it till I didn't have to be around any!
However...to the OP, you did break the rules sadly....you smoked knowing that even though it may be unfair it was a rule that instructor had...so you broke that one. Then you told on another...maybe another way would have been "I am sorry, but you will have to take that up with her...her habits are not my responsibility or business!". SO I would certainly write up the paper...I would have written it!
But alas..after that...dependant on if this is a battle you wish to take...which I WOULD HAVE (because that is just me! LOL!) I would bring it up with the Dean of School and also hint to a harassment suit against the instructor (that may get things rolling). The instructor is harassing you plain and simple...using her 'power' as an instructor to belittle, frighten, intimidate and single you out! That is harrassment big time!!!!!! YOu didn't pay for that, nor do you deserve it!
BUT...while this is going on...don't smoke at clinicals or school...freshen yourself and clothing so you don't smell like smoke. Don't give her any more fuel to cause things to get any worse!!! I also like the clothing bag idea for the car..that is a good one, but you have to figure out something for hair (a hat?).
Good luck to you!
Jan 15, '07Occupation: Telemetry/Cardiac RN Specialty: Cardiac/Telemetry ; From: US ; Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 101; Likes: 88I quit smoking about 3 weeks into my first semester of school. We were told we couldn't smoke in our uniforms or during clinical (lunch or breaks) so I put a patch on and gave them up. I've never been more motivated in my life to give up cigs and keep moving towards my RN.