Newborn Kitten Emergency- Anyone??? - page 2

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am fostering for the SPCA, and have a cat with 8 week old kittens, one with a 10 day old kitten, and one who... Read More

  1. by   catshowlady
    Momcat may be stressed, or not know what to do with her own kittens. Especially since you cut the cord, etc. Instinctual behavior often results from chaining, where one behavior triggers the next, which triggers the next, etc. Cats are especially prone to chaining. Don't be upset with yourself for interrupting the birth process, it doesn't sound like you had a choice. And I've had many a kitten survive despite my interference. When I was a new breeder and worried about everything, I interfered a lot - and my mom-cats all forgave me and took care of their babies.

    Newborn kittens, like humans, sometimes seem to need a day to get the hang of nursing. Just check for that cleft palate to make sure he can latch on. I can send you a pic I took of a cleft palate I had, if you need. You can give him a little energy boost if you need to, by giving him a few drops of Karo syrup from an eyedropper (or a 1cc slip tip syringe if you've got one, which is what I prefer).

    If you decide to put the new babe back with original mom-cat (you might try this if she has more kits), is there a way to montor her without being in the room, like a webcam or something? I ask because I have moms that won't stay with the kits if I'm in the room. They'd rather have my attention than take care of the babies and won't lay down.

    The nursing behavior is just something some cats do for comfort, even as adults. I have one big neuter that lets everybody nurse off him, even other adults, and sometimes it seems like he encourages it by licking the nurser, especially young kittens. So mom-cat may have felt labor coming on, and was nursing off her sister for comfort.

    One thing you might want to do is weigh this baby. Newborns should be at least 75 grams, preferably closer to 100g. Babies less than 65 almost never make it. The tiny ones just never seem to be able to nurse well enough to get going. I weigh mine twice daily for a couple of weeks, then daily. They may lose a few grams or gain nothing that first day, but then should put on 10-15g per day.
  2. by   FireStarterRN
    Keeping them locked up should be your best option. Maybe put a space heater nearby. I've had cats who have had single litters before, or just had two. I think they have less hormones and aren't as good of mothers, that's my theory.

    We have a white cat that didn't know what to do with her first 'litter' of two babies, and she did the same thing, we had to catch the kitten as it dangled out of her vagina and she was not knowing what to do as she gave birth. We had to induce her to stay in a makeshift nest we made for her, we didn't even know she was pregnant. We petted her a lot and she did get on track with motherhood. She is a weird cat, but she had other litters and knew what to do subsequently.
  3. by   canoehead
    Thank you for all the replies, I really needed the support.

    Last night I finally took kitten out of the crate with mom because it was not working out at all. It had been 3 hours without nursing, so I held mom's sister (who nursed her kittens AND mom) and got the baby latched on for about 5 minutes of good nursing. The adult was not interested in making this a long term thing, so it was just a snack to keep kitten alive.

    I put the kitten in with the 3rd mother cat, and she wasn't happy. Luckily they settled overnight. Mother had to go in the bin to feed her own baby, and I knew she was too good a mom to not do that. I also knew that the newborn was still hanging in there, rooting away, and just needed someone to hold still long enough for him to latch on. I went in there this morning and he's latched and the little paws just fly if his nipple starts to move. Now he's got it, and he's not taking any chances.

    The actual mom has not had more kittens, and I found her nursing from her sister this morning. I wonder if she was just too young to be pregnant and the stress was too much for her.

    The whole fam damily goes to the vet in 2 hours, and I will get some KMR just in case. Hopefully he will say the kitten is healthy and a good size. His belly is bigger today than it was yesterday, so he must be gaining a bit.

    Thanks again guys, I knew someone here would know what to do. I feel very lucky to have such a great group right at my fingertips.
  4. by   FireStarterRN
    You are a big hearted animal lover, canoe!!!
  5. by   miko014
    Aww, I had no good advice so I didn't say anything, but I had to come back in here and make sure the little guy was doing okay! So glad that mama #3 finally gave in - hopefully she'll kkep it up! It takes a special person to invest so much time in animals like that - way to go, canoehead!
  6. by   squeakykitty
    I'm glad the little kitty is doing better. I hope the foster mama lets the little sweetie nurse.
  7. by   catshowlady
    A fat belly on a kit is a good sign! If he's active enough to nurse at this point, tht's also a good sign. Keep us posted...
  8. by   Jules A
    I'm late but wanted to say thanks and bless you for helping these kitties. My guess is that this baby will turn out to be very special. Hugs, Jules
  9. by   nerdtonurse?
    My kitties: Mosey, Mouse, Smokey, Pete, Cricket, Rambo and Baby all say:

    "High !"

    And Mollie the dog says, "Another #*@! cat....."
  10. by   canoehead
    So- the final chapter.

    Mom of kitten was lazing around and still had a fat belly. Still not interested in her kitten, in fact, she stayed downstairs while all the kittens were upstairs. In the past few weeks she spent most of her time playing with and nursing her nieces and nephews. clearly something was not right. I found her nursing from her sister again this morning.

    the whole family went to the vet for various reasons, but the mom had a fever, and two undelivered kittens did not survive c section. The vet pronounced newborn kitten healthy and happy, and 75g. Baby kitten just wailed when taken away from the breast, I was so proud. Vet said there is no way a hungry or ill kitten would be so vigorous.

    So kitten is nursing with foster mom, and mom is lurching off the effects of anesthesia. Vet says kitten can nurse with his birth mom, but why mess with success at this point?
    Mom could still get septic, and she's had so much happen, she doesn't need more.

    I also bought a little box of KMR so I won't be caught short again. Vet thought a supplemental feed once or twice a day would take the strain off foster mom, as she is only 5lb. I tend more towards deworming, and bringing her some extra canned food every day, along with some pastey stuff they gave me with vitamins. If mom was human the breast milk would be important enough that we'd let her nurse, but make sure she had a feast every night.

    So that's my story. I'm all kittened out for now, thank goodness no one else is pregnant.
  11. by   RoxyChic
    Good. I'm really happy things are working out for you. Keep up the good work!
  12. by   catshowlady
    So glad the little one is doing well. Sorry mom lost the other babes. Hopefully she is doing better now. She probably didn't take care of the little one, because she felt bad herself.

    I would probably leave the babe w/ foster mom as well at this point, since he is gaining well. Give foster mom whatever canned food she'll eat. I look for cheap chicken, turkey, or chicken livers at the grocery. I put them in the crockpot or poach them on the stove, then chop and feed. My crew can put down 1/2 a turkey in a day! You can also buy this supplement called "Wate" by KittyBloom. It's mostly fat, it adds calories to the diet. It's a powder you can mix into wet food. You'd probably have to order that online. There's also a supplement called NutriCal that you might find the local pet store. It's a malt-flavored gel. My cats don't especially like the taste, but many cats do. It's got calories and vitamins/minerals too.

    Now for the important question: What are you going to name this kitten?
  13. by   FireStarterRN
    That explains it. Please keep us posted!