Men or Women? who is a better nurse?

donmurray · Apr 9, 2002

present tense: forbid

past tense: forbade

micro, RN · Apr 9, 2002

will say it before and say it again........hehehehehehehe

a nurse is a nurse is a nurse......

as a fellow nurse or a patient.........

I want the nurse that is proficient at what they do, focus on patient care(not magazine reading) and be able to get a smile from someone/patient even during the worst of situations.........and have a shoulder a mile wide for all that a nurse carries..................

xx or xy.......................or sbg............

rnoflabor2000 · Apr 9, 2002

Women, overall, make better caregivers than men, only because we have been doing it for centuries, it's ingrained in many. But a man that chooses the field, is by far a most spectacular person, because going against his instinct is a difficult thing to do. But just like anyone, we are all capable of crossing the gender line and preforming just as well as the opposite sex-if we have the talent to do so.

Zhakrin · Apr 9, 2002

Rn2000

Are you implying that men do not instinctively have caring abilities. That women are the only sex to recieve these magicaly qualities upon birth? That any nuturing qualities that I may have develped were the product of something fundimentally in contrast to my basic animal insintict?

That my being a male nurse is less NATRURAL that a woman picking this profession.

FYI the only reason that the profession is a female dominated profession is because of social stereotypes that exsisted in the 19th and 20th century that limited women to only a handful of socially acceptable professions, nursing and teaching being the primary two.

The only reason that more men are not in this profession is because of social stereotype, not due to a lack of ability to care.

Men throughout history have engaged is professions that encourage enlightment, non agression, and caring of the vunerable.

We have been priest, monks, social activists, provide nursing care long b4 the term was introdued, dispensed herbs to the sick and much more.

And let me state that if women are so fundalmentally caring, made of suger & spice, why do they often create working enviroments that are so inhumanly hostile. The meanest, and nastiest comments and actions that i have witnessed have been commited by women against women.

Also some of the biggest pissing contests I have seen have been between women who have tried to one up each other.

Not to mention that some of the rudest, ego-driven people I have known are nurses who have developed Aphabet psychosis ( too many letters after their name goes right to their heads)

This is not meant to bash women, only to point out that both sexes are just as capable to display a-hole tendoncies and that caring is not a trait inherant to one particular sex.

to think otherwise is to label me abnormal.

With:kiss for Rnoflabour2000,

:devil: Zhakrin:devil:

rnoflabor2000 · Apr 9, 2002

I see your points as well. Some things hold true to doctors being mostly men and the egotism in the 1700's when they took away the mid-wife from the setting thus "cornerstoning" the profession (which were not mostly but ALL women) to only male MD's. And the fact that they were all women was due to circumstance alone, as you said. Just as we were not "allowed" to do much of anything in the 18th and 19th centuries, so our abilities as monks and the sort cannot be chronologed thanks to our oppression. We have been seen as ONLY homemakers and mothers until the beginning of the 20th century. When I used the statement that most women are caring, I certainly want to exclude those few that are not at all, and those may be the oddity. And I would never presume that you are an "oddity". Just the opposite. You are just like that rare basketball player. You have that special quality to care for others and who want to. You have it in you to do such a job that was once a field of only women, again by circumstance. Just like the female doctor. But I was once in a field of all men for 13 years and it is just as biting and nasty as the all female group I work with now, which isn't thatmuch. But it is sometimes the environment, not the people, that cause it. As a group that should "stick" together, you are right in saying that they don't. If we could only learn and grow instead of undermine.:kiss!!

Zhakrin · Apr 10, 2002

Nicely put Rnoflabour2000,:kiss

:devil: Zhakrin:devil:

OBNURSEHEATHER · Apr 10, 2002

Whatever nurse I'm working with, that I'm confident is watching my back, and trusts me to reciprocate... that's the best nurse.

Whether they have testicles, ovaries, both, or neither is really insignificant to me

Heather

sasseynurse · Apr 10, 2002

Gender in health care, particularly in nursing. should not be an issue. Both are capable of giving the patient the best of their abilities.

It can become a sensitive issue for some patients, particularly in geratrics where gender can make a difference to them. But these same patients will accept doctors, physical therapists, and even social workers of either gender.

Funny thing isn't it?

A nurse is a nurse.

rnoflabor2000 · Apr 10, 2002

It's very sensitive in L&D, I feels so bad for the male nursing students that come thru. Half of the nurses don't want them and the other half get the patients who don't want them. And 70% of their doctors are male.

I pretty much agree with a nurse is a nurse too. If you choose the career path, it doesn't matter if you are male or female. Just be good at it. I don't think it matters in ANY career.

So in all essense, this is a moot point. It is just like being an airline pilot. In a field that was and still is dominated by men, a few women do it. And they do it well. But the ratio of men to women is still indicative of women not "choosing" the field. It is not that they can't do it. Same for nursing.

Teshiee · Apr 10, 2002

Doesn't matter who ever does the job. No findings. What will be next who make better nurses blacks or whites? See my point? Pointless.

rnoflabor2000 · Apr 14, 2002

Teshiee -

Very good point and analysis. Pointless, is the diagnosis. QED.

sparkle flower · Apr 14, 2002

It really doesn't matter as long as the care is correct. But, women, I find, do care about more of the little niceties.