Men or Women? who is a better nurse? - page 5

im student nurse... and one topic that we came across today in class is " who is a better nurse? men or women?" ... is it really true when they say women are more caring than men? For nurses that... Read More

  1. by   rnoflabor2000
    I see your points as well. Some things hold true to doctors being mostly men and the egotism in the 1700's when they took away the mid-wife from the setting thus "cornerstoning" the profession (which were not mostly but ALL women) to only male MD's. And the fact that they were all women was due to circumstance alone, as you said. Just as we were not "allowed" to do much of anything in the 18th and 19th centuries, so our abilities as monks and the sort cannot be chronologed thanks to our oppression. We have been seen as ONLY homemakers and mothers until the beginning of the 20th century. When I used the statement that most women are caring, I certainly want to exclude those few that are not at all, and those may be the oddity. And I would never presume that you are an "oddity". Just the opposite. You are just like that rare basketball player. You have that special quality to care for others and who want to. You have it in you to do such a job that was once a field of only women, again by circumstance. Just like the female doctor. But I was once in a field of all men for 13 years and it is just as biting and nasty as the all female group I work with now, which isn't thatmuch. But it is sometimes the environment, not the people, that cause it. As a group that should "stick" together, you are right in saying that they don't. If we could only learn and grow instead of undermine.:kiss!!
    Last edit by rnoflabor2000 on Apr 9, '02
  2. by   Zhakrin
    Nicely put Rnoflabour2000,:kiss

    Whatever nurse I'm working with, that I'm confident is watching my back, and trusts me to reciprocate... that's the best nurse.

    Whether they have testicles, ovaries, both, or neither is really insignificant to me

  4. by   sasseynurse
    Gender in health care, particularly in nursing. should not be an issue. Both are capable of giving the patient the best of their abilities.
    It can become a sensitive issue for some patients, particularly in geratrics where gender can make a difference to them. But these same patients will accept doctors, physical therapists, and even social workers of either gender.
    Funny thing isn't it?

    A nurse is a nurse.
  5. by   rnoflabor2000
    It's very sensitive in L&D, I feels so bad for the male nursing students that come thru. Half of the nurses don't want them and the other half get the patients who don't want them. And 70% of their doctors are male.

    I pretty much agree with a nurse is a nurse too. If you choose the career path, it doesn't matter if you are male or female. Just be good at it. I don't think it matters in ANY career.

    So in all essense, this is a moot point. It is just like being an airline pilot. In a field that was and still is dominated by men, a few women do it. And they do it well. But the ratio of men to women is still indicative of women not "choosing" the field. It is not that they can't do it. Same for nursing.
  6. by   Teshiee
    Doesn't matter who ever does the job. No findings. What will be next who make better nurses blacks or whites? See my point? Pointless.
  7. by   rnoflabor2000
    Teshiee -
    Very good point and analysis. Pointless, is the diagnosis. QED.
  8. by   sparkle flower
    It really doesn't matter as long as the care is correct. But, women, I find, do care about more of the little niceties.
  9. by   nurs2bhopefully
    I've had some awful male nurses......
    also had some awful female nurses.........
    But have also had wonderful male and female nurses

    Gender doesn't decide whether they're a good nurse, their heart does.
  10. by   rnoflabor2000
    Go to the Aug 14th issue of JAMA on Women vs. Men'd be surprised.
  11. by   researchrabbit
    Originally posted by pebbles
    If it had been a few female students and an Engineering class, it would have been an outrage.
    Actually had such a comment made when I was an Ag major (sorry, seems like I've done a little of everything) in an Agricultural Economics class. The instructor even wore a tie with little pigs on it. His take? "You're going to be working in a male dominated profession. If the comments bother you, maybe you should consider some other field because change takes time."

    Don't agree with it, but I have to admit that it made all five of us females work that much harder (poor guys. They couldn't keep up with us; we set the curve on every test).

    BTW, didn't drop out because of that; dropped out because running a greenhouse was hard, dirty, hot work. Now nursing is just hard and dirty; you do get air conditioning!
  12. by   mark_LD_RN
    what the hell is this topic even brought up in school for! the best nurse is the most skilled and compassionate nurse. gender has nothing to do with it at ALL! I am told by many of my patients that i am the best and most compassionale nurse they ever had. so much for females are better

    but seriously the instuctor needs to check out her motives and predjudices on this topic!
  13. by   Dr. Kate
    Researchrabbit: as we said in the 70s: "the woman who strives to be equal to a man lacks ambition."

    But really, what a dreadful thing to throw out to a class. It reaks of fostering gender bias and mindless prejudices.

    Gender is no determinant of quality and ability.