I Said... 'huh?'

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Imagine that you're the NightShift Supervisor and have been for quite awhile with all linens, medical supplies, residents rooms, exit doors,and entry door keys for access, locking or security when suddenly their aren't any keys and the above doors are inaccessible too you?

Imagine that you're responsible for 170 residents, 15 too 25 nursing staff and several of those in your care are Trachs all using misters,one with MRCA, cancer of the throat and he suddenly goes into distress with the medical supply room locked.

Imagine that you've made several calls trying to attain the keys for immediate entry with NO Call Backs and the nurse responsible for this residents direct care is in a panic as this resident is literally suffocating and close to Resp.Distress and the other residents are in need of sterile solution for their Trachs, but you've no access other that breaking into the supply room.

Imagine that you've reported same to the Nursing Consultants as well as the Administrator with the response being; "Why didn't you wait for Resp.Distress and then 911 him out?"

Imagine calling Corporate Headquarters and explaining this and they agreed with your decision which saved the residents life; not too mention that it protected your License, and told to ask for a 'Peer review' since the Administrator put you on indefinite suspension for "Destruction of Property."

Imagine attending the 'Peer Review' with witnesses notarized statements as well as them present; a notarized statement with the witness present that the Administrator had kicked-in the DONs door for paperwork and told it was all irrelevant because they wanted the 'Names' of those directly responsible for the door damage which you refused as you where the supervisor and instructed them to gain entry. The linen closet was entered by use of a credit card but the Medical Supply room had several dead-bolts and was unattainable with a credit card.

Imagine that you asked of your 'Peers'; "What should I have done?", and you were told that; "You could have called other facilities in the area requesting the needed medical supplies."

HUH? SAY WHAT?

You explain that that was unethical since the facility had the necessary medical supplies and according to the Social Security Act, all doors should have been accessible; not too mention the embarrassment the Corporation would have to contend with and the State Investigation that most certainly would follow, which it did with several 'G' tags and others given.

Imagine that you're Terminated and asked to sign a 'Write-Up' at the close of the 'Peer Review' admitting to destruction of property or sabotage of facility?

Imagine that in your long career as a RN you've never,ever been written-up, too have this shoved in your face. You refused to sign; your terminated!

Imagine receiving a 'Certified Letter' with the write-up enclosed stating that you admitted to destruction or sabotage but refused to sign.

Imagine contacting the Ombudsman,Health Professions Bureau, ANA, VNA, local paper and all agreed with what you did but saying they couldn't do anything about it.

'HUH?' SAY WHAT?

Imagine contacting an attorney and being told it's a 'TORT' issue which may take several years and that you also had a good cause for a 'Libel Suit', but...

Imagine that the facility in question lost not just the supervisor but CNA's, LPN's, RN's, ADON and DON next due in part to their total disregard for the residents care and staffing needs which you made it a point to express to the Administrator on numerous occasions only to be told that they had NO Authority to hire or address the issues which your response was to ask if they were primarily there as 'A SEAT WARMER.'

'IMAGINE'

Oh, now I understand why you were canned! You didn't have the selfish attitude required to make it in corporate healthcare! Betts, I would work for you ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. It has only been forever since I have worked with a manager that truly cares about the staff and patients. You were a supervisor and actually intervened in a patient care situation? That's unheard of in my unit, sad to say! They are too busy contributing to the nursing shortage *issing staff off and doctoring up the books when the state shows up. I have calledf them a handful of times and faxed them documentation of unsafe staffing and they still let the hospital come out smelling like a rose. Gee, I wonder if our VP of Nursing being on the Board of the State DOH has anything to do with that! State Agencies really won't help. Publicity will. Are there any local papers by you? We have a regional paper that was bought off by the suits during our strike, but the little local papers weren't paid off to slant their stories. Made the regional paper look really bad and then they started telling our side. Maybe if you start there...AARP should take an active interest in this. A picket sign outside the place (make sure you are off their property) can also help. Have a friend or family member call the emdia and say "there must be a strike or something going on there.."

I'm thinking about you and hope you stay strong thru this difficult time.

Have you gotten another job elsewhere??

Regards,

Ready for a good-one? I've had several interviews in Florida and have made all interviewers aware of what happened concerning my termination from 'The Facility", each and everyone present at the Interviews; Administrator, Corporate VP and whomever responded the same; "That doesn't surprise me, and that's why they're not here in Florida anymore". LOL

Unbelievable! Where do these people go to school and learn how to be so ruthless and heartless????

Good luck in the job hunt! I think you could get several hundred letters of reference from this BB!!!!! I'd write you one!

fedupnurse,

In an earlier post I mentioned just that. I haven't and never will be a 'GamePlayer' when it comes to those under my care or my staff! We were a 'TEAM' and I miss them very much, they were the greatest group of Caregivers I've had the Privilege of being associated with and I'd be *AMNED if anyone in Upper-Management,messed with them.

I believe in an Open-Door Policy; if anyone of them had an idea about the care given we all talked about it and if it seemed promising, we tried it. I'll be the first one to admit that I've a lot to learn and that I don't know everything. We all learn something each and everyday,and I would never ask of them to do anything that I wasn't willing to do myself. No "IFS, ANDS, or BUTS". 'PERIOD'

I've some sad news; the resident, succumbed to their illnesses, and ...

Rest In Peace, Friend...

Clearly since your staff quit you were a leader in addition to being a supervisor. I swear we should c,one you Betts and put one of you in every hospital across the country. If there were people like you running the show there wouldn't be a shortage of RN's.

Specializes in Everything except surgery.
Originally posted by betts

I've some sad news; the resident, succumbed to their illnesses, and ...

Rest In Peace, Friend...

Definitely in a better place now..:o

fedupnurse,

NO!NO!NO! I said NO! Do Not Quit on my behalf, you're Caregivers and what about the Residents? They can't quit and walk out,they depend on you; I'll be fine.

Of course we all feel badly for the residents but I think they left for their own behalf too! Let's face it Betts, a supervisor like yourself comes along very rarely. I'm sure your staff was aware they were next on the hit parade especially with no one there to defend them, sadly, for doing the right thing. It is a real catch 22 though isn't it? I'd hazard a guess that they wouldn't be able to stomach the conditions that were bound to ensue. They saw what quality leadership and supervision was.

Did you call OSHA? IS there any angle you could use there? Staff or patient safety???

Just a thought...

Sent to Tommy Thompson

Subj: Nursing Shortage?

Date: 5/16/2002 9:33:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: Betts8753

To: [email protected]

Mr. Thompson,

Please take the time to read this.

I Said... 'huh?' (Post# 1)

Imagine that you're the Nightshift Supervisor and have been for quite awhile with all linens, medical supplies, residents rooms, exit doors, and entry door keys for access, locking or security when suddenly their aren't any keys and the above doors are inaccessible too you?

Imagine that you're responsible for 170 residents, 15 too 25 nursing staff and several of those in your care are Trachs all using misters, one with MRCA, cancer of the throat and he suddenly goes into distress with the medical supply room locked.

Imagine that you've made several calls trying to attain the keys for immediate entry with NO Call Backs and the nurse responsible for this residents direct care is in a panic as this resident is literally suffocating and close to Resp.Distress and the other residents are in need of sterile solution for their Trachs, but you've no access other that breaking into the supply room.

Imagine that you've reported same to the Nursing Consultants as well as the Administrator with the response being; "Why didn't you wait for Resp.Distress and then 911 him out?"

Imagine calling Corporate Headquarters and explaining this and they agreed with your decision which saved the residents life; not too mention that it protected your License, and told to ask for a 'Peer review' since the Administrator put you on indefinite suspension for "Destruction of Property."

Imagine attending the 'Peer Review' with witnesses notarized statements as well as them present; a notarized statement with the witness present that the Administrator had kicked-in the DONs door for paperwork and told it was all irrelevant because they wanted the 'Names' of those directly responsible for the door damage which you refused as you where the supervisor and instructed them to gain entry. The linen closet was entered by use of a credit card but the Medical Supply room had several dead-bolts and was unattainable with a credit card.

Imagine that you asked of your 'Peers'; "What should I have done?", and you were told that; "You could have called other facilities in the area requesting the needed medical supplies."

HUH? SAY WHAT?

You explain that that was unethical since the facility had the necessary medical supplies and according to the Social Security Act, all doors should have been accessible; not too mention the embarrassment the Corporation would have to contend with and the State Investigation that most certainly would follow, which it did with several 'G' tags and others given.

Imagine that you're Terminated and asked to sign a 'Write-up' at the close of the 'Peer Review' admitting to destruction of property or sabotage of facility?

Imagine that in your long career as a RN you've never, ever been written-up, too have this shoved in your face. You refused to sign; your terminated!

Imagine receiving a 'Certified Letter' with the write-up enclosed stating that you admitted to destruction or sabotage but refused to sign.

Imagine contacting the Ombudsman, Health Professions Bureau, ANA, VNA, local paper and all agreed with what you did but saying they couldn't do anything about it.

'HUH?' SAY WHAT?

Imagine contacting an attorney and being told it's a 'TORT' issue which may take several years and that you also had a good cause for a 'Libel Suit,' but...

Imagine that the facility in question lost not just the supervisor but CNA's, LPN's, RN's, ADON and DON next due in part to their total disregard for the residents care and staffing needs which you made it a point too express to the Administrator on numerous occasions only to be told that they had NO Authority to hire or address the issues which your response was to ask if they were primarily there as 'A SEAT WARMER'.

'IMAGINE'

Imagine calling in for three days to make sure you're not scheduled and find out you're scheduled for Monday Evening with a question mark.

Imagine calling the Administrator the third day to ask how long the 'Indefinite Suspension' is and being told then that you're fired because they don't need a 'Supervisor' that destroys property.

Imagine that it's the 'Striker Plate Jam' that's broken and you find it cost them less than $100 whereas the 911 would have cost Thousands.

Imagine that during the whole 'Peer Review' that their only concern was the door and not once was the resident brought into question.

Imagine that the Health Professions Bureau informs you that if the resident had gone into Resp. Distress that your license would or could be suspended, pending investigation.

Imagine that a facility considers a door more important than another's life.

Imagine that you've the personal coverage that would have paid for the door.

Imagine a VP in the Corporation telling you that if you questioned the findings of the 'Peer Review,' you may ask and get his investigation which would be final but after you do, a few days later his secretary calls and says he doesn't do that.

Imagine the attorney you spoke with stating that under the circumstances you'd win hands down and get whatever you asked for then calling to say it didn't go your way and your attorney saying; "UNBELIEVABLE", but...

Imagine fighting Corporate $$$ over the next two or three years and being told; "If they pay".

'HUH? SAY WHAT?

Please go to https://allnurses.com and read the responses, the topic heading: I Said...huh?

20/20, CNN, FOX, have been contacted as well as Dateline and I will 'Speak-Out' about this atrocity and total disregard for the Resident, Residents, and Staff by the 'Corporate Braintrust.' We want action as this Corporation has already been Put-Out-of-Business in one State so why are they allowed a License to practice the same as before in other States?

You want the "TRUTH" about why there's a shortage; go to above and read firsthand how we feel and what's being done to us.

It's time to talk to us the Caregivers.

Replied:

Subj: RE: Nursing Shortage?

Date: 5/16/2002 9:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Sent from the Internet (Details)

Thank you for contacting the Department of Health and Human Services. If

you wish to receive a reply, please send your letter by postal mail to the

following address:

Secretary Tommy G. Thompson

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

200 Independence Avenue, SW, Room 639-G

Washington, DC 20201

Specializes in CV-ICU.

Betts, I've been digging through my nursing magazines and I finally found the artical I've been looking for for you (sorry, they weren't in order). RN magazine, April, 2002, Legally Speaking column, pp61-62: The Legal Landscape of Long Term Care by Janet K. Feldkamp, RN,BSN,LNHA,JD. She is a nurse attorney in Columbus ,Ohio with Benesch, Frieddlander, Coplan & Aronoff, LLP.

She states in the article that the Centers for Medicare and Mediaid Services (CMS, formerly known as HCFA) oversees state regulators who do the on-site surveys. The survey team evaluates a facility using procedures to assess compliance with federal requirements and the quality of care provided.If problems are significant the regulators may impose a fine of up to $10,000 per day for a deficiency that either caused or had the potential to cause serious harm or death. And that a facility that fails to take corrective action may lose Medicare and medicaid certification.

There are several agencies listed in the bibliography that may also be helpful to you.

And maybe the author would also be able to point you in the right direction here.

Take heart; I think that this is horrible but there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. I also think it would be neat if we could all come and do some "informational picketing" in front of this place. I would gladly wear a sign saying "This corporation cares more for doors than people"; or "hey, they fired the staff that cared for people here; who's caring for your loved ones now?" Informational picketing is very effective; especially when the media is aware that it is going to happen ahead of time so they can put it on the news.

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