Hand lotion - page 2
Our infection control nurse has told us that we are not allowed to bring in our own hand lotion for our PERSONAL use at work. We are suppose to use the stuff supplied by the facility. She says it... Read More
Apr 3, '03Yes we had this at my last job but the company bought this cream for us. I think it was called magic glove or something.
Apr 3, '03I don't know whether or not our hospital may have somepolicy somewhere, but we always have our own lotions all over the place with our names written on tehm with Sharpies.
Confiscate your lotion? I'm with Kristy. She'd have to rumble with me.
Apr 3, '03Provided it is in a container that you don't have to dip into to get the lotion, there should be no dramas and no added risk of infection. The only real reason not to use certain lotions is if they contain petroleum products or mineral oils, then they can degrade the latex in the gloves. That's the word from our IC nurse who actually recommends bringing our own stuff in, especially if you have nasty hands like I do. My new fave is Neutrogena Norwegian Formula, goes a long way to repairing the damage 100 handwashes a day can do.
Apr 3, '03We have brought in our own soap and lotions but keep them in a cabinet near the sink. That way they arent so obvious if IC comes in to snoop. Our hospital soap and lotion is mounted on the wall. Only way they might get wise is if housekeeping rats on us and tells how often they replace the dispensers.....I cant belive that we have to resort to such cloak and dagger tactics to keep our skin intact!!!!
My fave lotion is Udderly Smooth - udder cream from Wal mart.
Apr 3, '03Originally posted by KC CHICK
For anyone looking for a great lotion, I've been using Avoplex by O.P.I. (same company that makes those nail polishes). I've even gone to the beauty supply to get others for nurses and aides at work...they were hooked after trying mine.
A couple of weeks ago, one of the RNs on my floor went and purchased a bunch of Bath & Body Works soaps for us to use in our break room. My hands do much better with that than the alcohol foam stuff on the wall outside of every room.
Luckily we don't have the psycho IC nurse...or at least I haven't been exposed to her yet, and I've been at this job for a year.
Apr 3, '03Next thing you know she'll be trying to tell you what kind of soap you can use to bathe with before you come to work!
Apr 3, '03At my place of employment we aren't allowed to use our own hand lotions either b/c of "infection control". They say some lotions actually promote bacterial growth due to the ingredients that are in them. They supply us with this less than desirable lotion that to me makes your hands drier than before....but what do we know?
Apr 3, '03There is a legitimate reason for the IC nurse's stance on hand lotions, although I don't know why she didn't just take the time to explain the policy, and work with those nurses who have sensitive hands and need a special lotion.
There was an outbreak of serious illness, including the deaths of several neonates, in a NICU in Detroit a few years back. Infection control finally traced the cause to hand lotion containers which were growing pseudomonas, I believe. Apparently, larger containers that are in use for a long time develop moisture on their inner surfaces, encouraging the growth of various micro-organisms, which are then passed on to compromised patients.
As I understand it, using small, personal sized containers which are discarded, and not re-filled will help to eliminate the problem. Also, as someone stated before, petroleum-based lotions can degrade gloves made of certain types of latex, also interfering with infection-control measures.
All this said, however, it is completely unrealistic for the IC nurse to mandate such a policy without working with those staff members who have a need for an alternative product.
Apr 3, '03Originally posted by altomga
At my place of employment we aren't allowed to use our own hand lotions either b/c of "infection control". They say some lotions actually promote bacterial growth due to the ingredients that are in them. They supply us with this less than desirable lotion that to me makes your hands drier than before....but what do we know?
Again, I ask....what do the stats say? I would be surprised if there was a big difference in the spread of infection because 1.) the staff isn't compliant in the first place....and 2.) the extra places bacteria can hide out in skin cracks.
I agree...what do we know?
Apr 3, '03We are not allowed to use our own soaps & lotions- if we have a problem with those offerred we are supposed to go through employee health and work on a resolution there. Where I work many of the organisms are resistant (I work on a long term care ventilator unit) and virulent and I'd rather follow protocol based on studies that might prevent me from not necessarily becoming ill immediately but from even becoming colonized (and thus potentially infected at another time when my immune resistance is low). Anyways, many lotions do break down latex which will then ultimately set you up for a potential latex allergy (not fun in nursing) as your body is exposed to it frequently. So, I follow the standards presented, and if I have a problem/reaction with I will go to employee health because it is a work-related injury at that point. (And then next week theory and standards of practice will change again, eh?! )
Apr 3, '03Originally posted by sjoe
Illegal. What's she going to do--wrestle you for it? What is your union doing about this?
Apr 3, '03Keep some Eucerin in your purse or pocket, out of sight. It is scenteless and VERY effective protection for dry hands. Meantime, you may want to initiate documentation on how MANY nurses are facing the same issues. I am with you, our lotions at work tear me up, too. They do more harm than good and as shell says, cracked, irritated skin in and of itself IS an IC issue! DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT and fight your case with this. BE covert in the meantime, using lotion carried in your pocket that has no scent. That's all I can suggest to you.
sjoe: news bulletin: NOT ALL HOSPITALS ARE UNIONIZED!!!! So this won't do Dees a whole lot of good.Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Apr 3, '03
Apr 3, '03We have that policy at our hospital and we "malcontents" bring our bootleg lotion in and hide it in our purses.....my illegal substance of choice at the moment is Eucerin cream--very good.
the pseudomonas story is something to consider, but we are talking about individual tubes here--not a multi-person large dispenser. Dunno 'bout the rest of you, but my purse and it's contents I consider clean; I am not about to even so much as touch my purse w/o a thorough handwashing......I usually go from there to charting and from there to prepping meds. Call me Typhoid Lib, but I think I'm OK!
Our ID nurse is a nut--it must be the job. I am with her all the way (except for the lotion) I just hate being treated like I'm 5 and retarded! I think they need inservices in how to tell people things!